[riteshritesh]

Originally Posted by Mr.V

Another thing I wanted to point out about the accessories is that the dealer didn't specify what accessories already come with the car variant I booked. I noticed on PDI my HTX IVT already came with mudguards, Door scuff plates with Seltos logo, window side beading chrome as standard.

This is why I love Tbhp. I was to take delivery of my IVT yesterday and had purchased and paid for the Mudguards.I hadn't selected the Door sill plates or window chrome. Pointed this out to the SA before delivery and they confessed that the mud flaps did come included in HTX IVT and they will issue a refund of Rs 654. So as you doubted, they are very capable of billing gullible people.

Accessories purchased by me were:
1) Back window Screen.
2) 3D Mats for floor and Boot.
3) Cup coaster
4) Door Edge Protecting Rubber.
5) Bumper corner protector( Rubbish choice and can be avoided).
6) Door Visor.
Total was around 11,000/-
Got Ceramic Coating done to make the SA earn his commission. This was around Rs 30,000.
Along with that got the overpriced Insurance + RSA + My Convenience Package.
The car is Company registered and on Road Mumbai came to 21 Lakhs with everything.

Fun Fact: The Ex Factory Price of Car without GST and Taxes is Rs 11 Lakhs odd.

[sunilrs]

Recently, there was a New York Times opinion column on Kia and Hyundai being subjected to lawsuits in USA for selling cars without engine immobilisers till 2022 and thereby making theft very easy. I believe they are now being subjected to lawsuits from customers and governments of some cities. Is the situation same in India?

I am sharing the article link below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/o...ai-tiktok.html

[Highh5]

A colleague of mine recently picked up HTX+ iMT Diesel in Imperial Blue. Honestly, I was not a big fan of earlier Seltos but this one changed my stance on this car to a large extent. My comparison will be with my Harrier which I've been driving for the last 2 years and 9 months and completed 42000 km on that.

What I liked:
Neatly integrated, High-resolution, sleek Dual Screens, one for infotainment and another for instrumentation console. Specifically the way they have integrated, they don't block the view of the dashboard, really love the integration/implementation.
Camel Brown Leatherette Seats with a nice touch on the Dashboard and door area lit up the entire cabin and gave an exquisite feeling.
A lot of excellent additions such as Dual Zone Climate Control, Ambient Lightning, electric seats, and Front Parking Sensors don't make me feel that I'm missing something even though GTX+ and X-Line models are also present on top of that. No one can beat Koreans when it comes to features.
I like the steering wheel as well, light, perfectly sized and all the buttons look upmarket in comparison to my Harrier Steering wheel.
The front seats are nice, with good under-thigh support as well. Honestly, it's better than Harrier specifically the under-thigh support.
Love the DRLs of both the front and rear lights. Car looks smart and stands out in the crowd.
I drove the iMT for the very first time, and somehow love the way it is implemented. There was minimal lag in comparison to the Automatic Harrier I drive, which is no slouch either. Found Seltos diesel refined, peppy, and very easy to chuck around the city in comparison to Harrier.
The engine is not only peppy and fun to drive but at the same time fuel efficient as well. Not the case with a bigger 2.0-liter Kyrotec engine, either you can have fun or have mileage.

What I don't like:
The quality of the Roof liner is very poor. A couple of dry clean washes and it is gone. Roof Liner of Harrier is miles ahead, properly knitted high-quality fabric.
Headroom is very limited considering if one raises the driver seat to their highest seat adjustment. Harrier doesn't have any such problem
Even though the knee room is good, under thigh support of the rear seats is not good in comparison to my Harrier.
Ventilated Seats are more like a gimmick, didn't find them that effective.
Space - One of the major reasons I didn't buy this car and instead bought the Harrier. Specifically, boot space looks decent on paper but is not a great implementation in real. Sitting three people in the rear is gonna be a tight affair.
Safety is still a big question. Now don't quote me that Harrier is also not tested but I believe everyone is aware of what Harrier is capable of.
High window lines and at the same time window size is small as well, made me feel claustrophobic initially at the rear seats. However, the Panoramic Sunroof helped a lot and made me feel at ease. Again, my reference point here was Harrier, its large glass area makes the cabin feel more lit and airy.


Will I prefer to buy this car in the future: Yes, I can. Really love the interiors, feels upmarket. Waiting for the facelifted Harrier and how it stacks against the competition. The only thing that can keep me away from this Car is the Bharat NCAP results. I hope this one gets tested fast.

[VigneshMC]

I got call today from SA to inform me that car is allocated . I have not got accessories list specific to HTK variant, even though I have asked for it multiple times . I would go for extended warranty and my convenience package .

I remember seeing a comment in this thread, about my convenience package is for specific service centre but my SA confirmed its valid across the country.

I have also booked Elevate , I have not got chance to test drive it yet . Waiting for Monday for both price and test drive. It will be a head ache for me , if Honda prices really well.

I have questions about PPF , Ceramic and Teflon coating . I know PPF is way to expensive and definitely out of my budget .

Is it mandate or is it just good to have a ceramic /Teflon coating ?

Also do we have to do this just after the purchase or we can do it bit later ?

I have booked pewter olive , if that helps.

[Shrek8421]

Originally Posted by VigneshMC

I got call today from SA to inform me that car is allocated . I have not got accessories list specific to HTK variant, even though I have asked for it multiple times . I would go for extended warranty and my convenience package .

I remember seeing a comment in this thread, about my convenience package is for specific service centre but my SA confirmed its valid across the country.

I have also booked Elevate , I have not got chance to test drive it yet . Waiting for Monday for both price and test drive. It will be a head ache for me , if Honda prices really well.

I have questions about PPF , Ceramic and Teflon coating . I know PPF is way to expensive and definitely out of my budget .

Is it mandate or is it just good to have a ceramic /Teflon coating ?

Also do we have to do this just after the purchase or we can do it bit later ?

I have booked pewter olive , if that helps.

I think the colour is cool and unique. Also based on a bit of research a good ceramic coating with periodic updates is the best solution with a little ppf on mirrors and maybe bumpers.
Best to get it done when new so that it will protect before any damage occurs.

[ssoni.1411]

Originally Posted by VigneshMC

I have questions about PPF , Ceramic and Teflon coating . I know PPF is way to expensive and definitely out of my budget .

Is it mandate or is it just good to have a ceramic /Teflon coating ?

Also do we have to do this just after the purchase or we can do it bit later ?

I have booked pewter olive , if that helps.

You can go with the ceramic coating. It is good enough to help you with minor dents and scratches. Plus there is also an option of you opting for ceramic coating + PPF on scratch prone areas like bumper, etc.

Ideally you should get your car ceramic coated as soon as possible after delivery since it is an OEM paint and there won't be any scratches or chippings on it. So my advice would be to get it soon after delivery.

[07CR]

Originally Posted by Highh5

A colleague of mine recently picked up HTX+ iMT Diesel in Imperial Blue.

Any particular reason to not go with GT Line Seltos? I mean the price difference between the HTX+ iMT and GT Line is around 1.3L in OTR terms. GT Line gets the full suite of ADAS, EPB with Auto hold, Rain sensing wipers, 360 degree camera, blind view monitor etc.

Originally Posted by Highh5

Safety is still a big question. Now don't quote me that Harrier is also not tested but I believe everyone is aware of what Harrier is capable of.

Harrier and all cars equipped with Jeep's 2.0 Litre Diesel engine also have questionable safety. I guess the oil filter is placed in such manner that in an impact, it can gravely injure the driver. Maybe that's the reason Harrier and Safari still aren't sent for testing by Tata.

Related discussion-

1. First let's talk about the elephant in the room I e. the safety rating of the Harrier.

Did some additional digging with the help of my sources and found that the real culprit for the Harrier not meeting the front crash test norms lies just behind the ABC pedals in the engine compartment. Oil filter for the 2.0 Multijet engine is located in that place. Now according to my sources during frontal impact this oil filter and some other associated parts intrude through the firewall and push the ABC pedals inwards. This in turn results in leg injury to the driver and thus the Harrier loses some crucial points which ultimately results in it being unable to get a 5 star rating.

Now this issue is exclusive to RHD SUVs because the Jeep Compass tested by Euro NCAP which got a 5 star result is an LHD model and according to my sources the Indian Compass which is RHD will also have the same above mentioned issue resulting in it also being a less than 5 star car. This is because in LHD configuration the location of the oil filter remains the same I.e. behind the firewall at the right portion where there are no pedals in LHD configuration to have any impact on the score.

A sincere request to fellow bhpians who do not agree with what I have said above to not bash me or Tata Motors because I cannot prove what I have mentioned even though I have utter faith in my sources and neither can Tata prove otherwise unless they send the Harrier to GNCAP. So let's hope that Tata quickly sorts out this issue and comes out with a 5 star rated Harrier since it is the only product in its lineup which has not been tested.

[Cresterk]

Originally Posted by sunilrs

Recently, there was a New York Times opinion column on Kia and Hyundai being subjected to lawsuits in USA for selling cars without engine immobilisers till 2022 and thereby making theft very easy. I believe they are now being subjected to lawsuits from customers and governments of some cities. Is the situation same in India?

I am sharing the article link below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/o...ai-tiktok.html

There were a whole host of first gen Creta thefts back in the day when Cretas were very popular. My 2nd gen top spec i20 too doesn't have any immobiliser or even theft alarm despite having several features from cars 2 segments above.

[cos2bh]

Originally Posted by sunilrs

Recently, there was a New York Times opinion column on Kia and Hyundai being subjected to lawsuits in USA for selling cars without engine immobilisers till 2022 and thereby making theft very easy. I believe they are now being subjected to lawsuits from customers and governments of some cities. Is the situation same in India?

I am sharing the article link below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/o...ai-tiktok.html

From what I understand from the SA as well as a neighbour who has the HTX (2nd Gen - pre-facelift) is the new facelifted version has an Immobilizer in it.

Google though says - "The vehicle is equipped with an ignition disable device that will prevent the engine from starting if the correct original manufacturer key is not used."

[Sufficient_shop]

Originally Posted by cos2bh

From what I understand from the SA as well as a neighbour who has the HTX (2nd Gen - pre-facelift) is the new facelifted version has an Immobilizer in it.

Google though says - "The vehicle is equipped with an ignition disable device that will prevent the engine from starting if the correct original manufacturer key is not used."

Yes, older Seltos/Sonet too have anti-theft engine immobilizer and alerts. Honestly, the news article is a distraction for this thread and doesn't add any value to the discourse.

[SeniorC]

Any more updates from Seltos facelift owners here? Would be interesting to follow them.

[ssoni.1411]

Weird to see this thread being less active than the Elevate and Nexon Facelift thread.

[Mr Anderson]

Originally Posted by SeniorC

Any more updates from Seltos facelift owners here? Would be interesting to follow them.

I have the xline diesel version for 5 days now. Traveled 200kms. Since I haven't got it ppfed I take it out only after dinner for a leisurely longish drive with the family and not regularly for work. Still trying to shortlist which ppf to get, if any, at all.

Everything they say in the reviews is true. Interiors are top notch and look super premium. Drive is a bit stiff on bad roads. Smooth on highways. All the features of Adas work flawlessly provided the roads are clearly marked. Infotainment and cluster looks from like they are from a class above.

It switches back to normal mode everytime you restart the car. I have to turn it to economy mode every time I turn it on. Haven't yet activated kia connect features. Haven't yet used Android auto/apple carplay. Good old Bluetooth works flawlessly for audio and making calls. Haven't found the need to use maps within the city. Tried it for sometime, they have all the basic places covered.

Basically I viewed/read every review before I got the car and I already knew how exactly it was going to behave and it did.


Would be happy to help if you have any specific questions related to the car.

[Turbohead07]

I have been scouting for a mid size SUV post selling my XUV700 AX7 D AT earlier this year. Luckily, got my XUV delivered within 3 months of launch at introductory price so took delivery. However, sold it after using for ~20k Kms since it was Diesel (I stay in NCR), was oversized for city usage, AT upshifts very late at high RPMs so NVH levels were perpetually high in the city and never ending rattles from my unit (may be initial batch issue). Though I must say that it was a superb machine but was just not fit for my liking/use case.

I evaluated following options:
1) Hyryder (Strong Hybrid): Performance on highways was questionable and wifey did not approve interiors and overall feel.
2) Skoda Kushaq: Great to drive but reliability/ownership cost issues along with inferior interior quality for the price.
3) Venue N Line: Cramped and claustrophobic cabin.

After considering above, I zeroed in on Elevate and New Seltos. Had booked one HTX+ 1.5 T DCT (prior to launch) and booked another (GTX+ DCT) via K-Code. But once pricing was announced, suddenly HTX+ DCT started looking expensive. But I just didn't like all black interiors of GT Line and hence, changed both the bookings to X-Line (though I was still in love with HTX+ interiors). A week into the booking, and post couple of visits to showroom, I was somehow convinced that may be I can miss some features but cannot live with Black Headliner (that's my personal disliking though I know it is in vogue and considered to be sporty) which makes cabin too claustrophobic. Hence, changed the booking to HTX+ again though will miss 360 camera and EPB (ADAS isn't of much use in Indian conditions as per my experience with XUV) but just can't compromise on interiors which will be user's primary touch/interaction point. Elevate was launched with only NA engine option and doesn't seem too exciting though it is a good overall package.

Overall experience with Kia Dealership has been satisfactory and they haven't forced me for any insurance or accessories yet (though I will be taking Kia Convenience Plus package as it brings cost of ownership substantially down).

[Sufficient_shop]

Originally Posted by ssoni.1411

Weird to see this thread being less active than the Elevate and Nexon Facelift thread.

Well, that's expected right? Elevate will have the prices tomorrow and Nexon prices will come out on 14th. Till then they will rightfully garner more attention. I'm just worried about not seeing enough people actually getting deliveries of Seltos.