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Old 16th April 2025, 18:35   #3436
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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I own a Seltos GTX+ Diesel bought in July 2024.

However, my replaced glass did not have the UV indication (attached image), which makes me wonder if they have replaced my glass with the normal ones instead of the one I am supposed to be getting.

If you find out that the installed glass is not a UV solar glass, please also keep in mind that Kia did not have it on the GT trims during certain periods, as they kept fiddling with the feature list. Depending on the manufacturing month and year (or using the VIN), this may apply to your car, which could explain why they didn't install it.

Or it could very well be that a non-UV solar glass was fitted by mistake. In that case, you should ask Kia to replace it.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Help Decide: Pre-Loved 2020 Seltos GTX+ DCT vs New Seltos GTX


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I’ve been a proud owner of a Grand i10 (Asta, 1.2L Petrol MT) for the past 3 years. With a family of four (two adults + two kids), I’m now looking to upgrade to an SUV for better comfort and a peppier drive. My usage:
  • City driving: <25 km/day
  • Occasional highway runs: Once a month
After extensive research (thanks to this forum!), I shortlisted the Kia Seltos, Skoda Kushaq, and MG Astor (intentionally skipped Creta, Taigun, XUV, and Tata SUVs). Test drives:
  1. MG Astor Savvy CVT: Loved the interiors and seats, but performance felt underwhelming.
  2. Seltos HTX+ iVT: Solid, but the GTX+ DCT Turbo stole my heart! The power and features were irresistible.
  3. Kushaq: Yet to test-drive, but I’m leaning heavily toward the Seltos.
Dilemma: Pre-Owned vs New Seltos GTX+

I’ve zeroed in on the Seltos GTX+ DCT and have two options:
  1. Pre-Loved (March 2020, GTX+ 1.4 DCT Petrol)
    • Price: ₹13.5L (via Spinny)
    • Condition: Well-maintained (38K kms), no major issues except a minor rattle during test drive.
    • Pros: Beige interiors (wife-approved!), significant cost savings (~₹11L).
    • Cons: Misses ADAS, panoramic sunroof, paddle shifts and facelift updates.
  2. New Seltos GTX (2023 Facelift)
    • Price: ~₹25L (Chennai on-road)
    • Pros: Latest features (ADAS, sunroof), warranty, peace of mind.
    • Cons: Dark interiors (wife dislikes), hefty price premium.
Concerns with the Pre-Owned 2020 Model

From my research, common issues include:
  • DCT overheating in traffic
  • Interior rattles / door panel fit issues
  • Sunroof leaks, TPMS/camera glitches
  • Mediocre fuel efficiency
The Spinny-listed car has a clean service history, and my PDI didn’t raise red flags (planning a third-party inspection too).
Seeking Expert Advice
  1. Is the 2020 DCT reliable for 4–5 years of ownership, or should I expect costly repairs?
  2. Does the ₹11L savings justify skipping the facelift’s upgrades (ADAS, safety, refinement)?
  3. Any hidden pitfalls with pre-owned Seltos DCTs I should check?
I’m torn between the thrill of savings (pre-owned) and the peace of mind (new). Need expert advice and your insights!


Thanks in advance!
I think you can go for the used car considering the price difference is substantial. But Seltos HTX IVT sits in a sweet spot. I own a GTX+. When I was looking for the purchase HTX IVT was my preferred version. But I got a discount of around 1.7L on seltos FL 2023 make purchased in 2024 April. So I went with GTX+. I love all the features it offers.

It's purely a personal choice. If you are not looking for an upgrade in next 6-7 years, you may go for HTX IVT or FL GTX+ otherwise go for the used car.
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Old 18th April 2025, 23:58   #3438
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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I think you can go for the used car considering the price difference is substantial. But Seltos HTX IVT sits in a sweet spot. I own a GTX+. When I was looking for the purchase HTX IVT was my preferred version. But I got a discount of around 1.7L on seltos FL 2023 make purchased in 2024 April. So I went with GTX+. I love all the features it offers.

It's purely a personal choice. If you are not looking for an upgrade in next 6-7 years, you may go for HTX IVT or FL GTX+ otherwise go for the used car.
Thank you for your suggestion. I'm re-evaluating my options. Announcement regarding the hybrid variant by next year is another thing I'm weighing up on.
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Old 20th April 2025, 14:42   #3439
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Hi everyone,
I wanted to reach out to current Seltos DCT owners here and get some real-world feedback regarding the dual-clutch transmission.

And the main question I wanted to ask-Can DCT be driven in Indian traffic conditions?

Would truly appreciate if you could share your experience—good or bad—and any tips for prospective or curious owners.

Thanks in advance
I own a GTX+ DCT 1.5 and have driven around 22K kms, a lot in traffic.

The service center folks mentioned about heating issues in the past with the 1.4 DCT, I have never seen my transmission overheat (bumper to bumper for 1 hour and even hills).

Turbo + DCT esply in seltos is very useful for nifty overtakes in indian traffic conditions. The ~160 bhp with the turbo is more than adequate. The larger cars with TC + higher bhp, ofcourse provide a linear and better power delivery, but size is also a problem in indian traffic conditions.

The Seltos DCT gets a little jerky in lower gears and in traffic. One way to minimise this is to switch to eco mode (but sometimes it does feel jerky). Maybe this issue is due to the dry clutch, but it is not that bad.

On the highways it is always a choice between Fuel efficieny and Speed. The Seltos DCT gives the best fuel efficiency at 60-70kmph (around 17 Kmpl), at 80-100 (15 Kmpl), more than that depends on the number of turbo boosts and your speed. If you are a regular highway rider, go for a diesel , the dpf concerns will also be taken care of.

A few good driving practices for a Seltos DCT, would include

1. Engine idling after a cold start. Wait until the initial idling rpm drops, which is around 30 seconds in my seltos. The turbo needs to lubricate.

2. Use auto hold with ISG, the engine turns off in small traffic stops and for longer halts switch to Neutral.

3. If you have raced a lot in your drive, let the engine idle for a while before you shut it down.
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My Seltos X-Line D AT ( Aurora black pearl )

Bought the Kia Seltos X-line D AT



As i personally liked the design , styling and tech of the facelifted seltos and Diesel AT being my choice of engine and transmission , i straight away went to the dealer to book one .

At the time of booking, i was unaware about the x-line in pearl black color and i booked the Gtx plus D At variant in aurora black pearl .

i was told that the waiting period is about 2-3 weeks.

Two weeks after the booking , i casually opened the kia website and to my surprise i found that kia had launched x-line in a Aurora black pearl and immediately fell in love with it.

Being a huge fan of a blacked out cars , i straight away contacted the dealer and cancelled the GTX+ which i've booked .
The Dealer was kind enough to cancel the GTX+ and changed it to X-line immediately.

And a week later , got a call from the dealer that the vehicle has been reached to the dealer and PDI to be carried out along .

Done with the PDI and completed all the documentation process .

Being a 26 years old civil engineer , i was excited and proud about my first car purchase .

Initial impressions:
The 1.5 Diesel At is so refined and the NVH levels are impressive for a diesel.
"Sage green interiors " , i liked the fact that it isn't as green as they advertised in the kia website .

Exterior
Appreciate Kia for bringing the Aurora Black Pearl in seltos X-line , all the Blacked out bits really stand out

"ADAS"
Tried The Level 2 ADAS , works flawlessly and wouldn't recommend for our road conditions .
Nothing beats being in total control behind the wheel

Audio Quality
The 8 speaker BOSE audio system is Decent enough .
Bluetooth is ok but , playing music through carplay and android auto with a lossless music Streaming platform felt alot better to me.

Suspension
i felt that the suspension is not that stiff . Very much usable for our road conditions.


Got the Graphene coating done as im not a huge fan of PPF and heard a lots of horror stories about its longevity

Its been a amazing 5 months with my seltos x-line D At With a mix of city and highway drives

i'll be completing 10000 kms in a couple of days and will share my first service experience !!
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Old 21st April 2025, 09:00   #3441
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Hi everyone,
I wanted to reach out to current Seltos DCT owners here and get some real-world feedback regarding the dual-clutch transmission. There’s a lot of information floating around online—some positive, some concerning—and I felt it’s best to ask the people who actually drive the car daily.

Specifically, I’m curious about a few things:

1. Overheating: Have you faced any overheating warnings, especially during city traffic, stop-go conditions, long idling, or while driving in hilly regions?

2. Reliability in Indian Conditions: How has your DCT held up in general, especially considering our hot climate and diverse traffic scenarios? Is it consistent and confidence-inspiring over time?

3. Clutch Health & Wear: Any experiences with early clutch wear, slipping, or replacement? How many kilometers have you driven and how has the transmission aged?

4. Driving Style Impact: Do you feel the DCT requires any special care or a particular driving style to stay reliable?

5. Frequency of Issues: Are these issues (if any) widespread among DCT owners or more of an exception?
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I have never seen my transmission overheat (bumper to bumper for 1 hour and even hills).

Turbo + DCT esply in seltos is very useful for nifty overtakes in indian traffic conditions. The ~160 bhp with the turbo is more than adequate. The larger cars with TC + higher bhp, ofcourse provide a linear and better power delivery, but size is also a problem in indian traffic conditions.

The Seltos DCT gets a little jerky in lower gears and in traffic. One way to minimise this is to switch to eco mode (but sometimes it does feel jerky). Maybe this issue is due to the dry clutch, but it is not that bad.

On the highways it is always a choice between Fuel efficieny and Speed. The Seltos DCT gives the best fuel efficiency at 60-70kmph (around 17 Kmpl), at 80-100 (15 Kmpl), more than that depends on the number of turbo boosts and your speed. If you are a regular highway rider, go for a diesel , the dpf concerns will also be taken care of.

A few good driving practices for a Seltos DCT, would include

1. Engine idling after a cold start. Wait until the initial idling rpm drops, which is around 30 seconds in my seltos. The turbo needs to lubricate.

2. Use auto hold with ISG, the engine turns off in small traffic stops and for longer halts switch to Neutral.

3. If you have raced a lot in your drive, let the engine idle for a while before you shut it down.
Agree with all that bharathgr has said. I'm not getting the fuel economy that bharathgr mentioned. My Seltos's fuel efficiency is around 12 KMPL on highways, but be aware my car has not had its first full service at 10K KMs and I do not drive sedately. My drive includes occasional bursts of overtaking at 80% throttle sometimes and usage of paddles or the manual modes. I enjoy it a lot and that is one of the reasons I selected the 1.5 Turbo Petrol DCT.

I have used the car in heavy Bangalore traffic with no DCT heating issues. That said, like bharathgr says, the Normal drive mode might "feel" a bit jerky (Not like AMTs) in the first 2 gears. Economy dulls that a bit and gives you relaxed driving. The shifts from 3-7 are very smooth. The best gearbox I have seen so far though is the DQ380 in the Kodiaq. Nothing beats its power delivery and smoothness in any gear. The transmission control unit is tuned perfectly!

As far as caring goes, I switch the transmission into neutral anytime I have to stop over 10-15 seconds and use autohold. I recommend this for the longevity of DCT. I switch this off on highway though. Reliability of these gear boxes remain a mystery to me even today, only time will tell.
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I'm not getting the fuel economy that bharathgr mentioned. My Seltos's fuel efficiency is around 12 KMPL on highways, but be aware my car has not had its first full service at 10K KMs and I do not drive sedately.
The Turbo is a bit addictive and on highways the car is fun to drive. Every time you boost on turbo, the mileage drops by a significant amount. I got this 17kmpl recently, not even once did i step on the gas, used minimal or no braking (Maybe i was a bit tired and sedate). The usual mileage i get when on highway is around 15kmpl. Not sure if my driving style has changed post 20K service or if the engine has settled in.
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Hey folks,
Reaching out to all the Seltos iVTowners here! I know the iVT isn’t built for outright performance like the turbo-DCT, but I’m really curious—does it still manage to be
fun to drive?
Would love to hear your real-world experience on:

How does the car feel in daily city drives and occasional highway runs?

Is the engine-gearbox combo engaging enough, or does it get dull after a while?

Does using the paddle shifters make a noticeable difference in terms of responsiveness and control and is it fun?

How does it handle inclines, overtakes, or full-load situations (4-5 passengers + luggage)?

Any rubber-band effect that kills the vibe, or is it well-managed?

And of course—how’s the fuel efficiency been?

I’m not looking for a racer—just wondering if the iVT can deliver a smooth, relaxed drive with a little excitement when needed.

Looking forward to your thoughts and experiences. Thanks in advance.
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Kia claims that the new Seltos has a reinforced occupant compartment that makes it safer and more reliable. Also, a lot of the safety features are now standard across all variants. We will wait for the GNCAP test results of the new Seltos to comment on the safety aspect.
We all know how that went! While Seltos is an absolutely brilliant package of features and driving experience, KIAs inability to secure a higher B/GNCAP rating rankles. All the more relevant now that Syros too is 5 Star.
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Reaching out to all the Seltos iVTowners here! I know the iVT isn’t built for outright performance like the turbo-DCT, but I’m really curious—does it still manage to be
fun to drive?
Hello dear,

The 1.5 NA IVT combo is a brilliant package offering more than adequate performance, ultra smooth driveability, good efficiency and absolute peace of mind (no diesel DPF headaches or DCT's reliability concerns). You would love how easy it is to drive within city limits with no jerks or lags.

Hyundai/Kia's IVT is well calibrated which means it masks the infamous rubber band effect of a typical CVT. On open roads, it doesn't feel slow either when you put it on the Sport mode and be playful with those paddle shifters. Ofcourse not as fast or torquey as the turbo petrol/diesel, but it does get the job done really well. Even on a full load, it doesn't disappoint as long as you keep your expectations real. I have been driving the same combo on our 2021 Creta and when it comes to ease of use, absolutely admire it everytime I come back to it after a Turbo petrol DCT/Diesel TC.

I would strongly recommend taking a long TD (multiple TDs on different days should work even better ) before taking a call.
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I’m not looking for a racer—just wondering if the iVT can deliver a smooth, relaxed drive with a little excitement when needed.

Looking forward to your thoughts and experiences. Thanks in advance.
We had he exact dilemma when going for the Seltos and Creta in our family, from an extended run with a friend's car on the Seltos IVT, the DCT and the Diesel AT. Here's what I found on the character of the IVT:

City driving on the IVT is effortless with smooth acceleration, even on highways, the engine powers well, not punchy as the turbo DCT or the torquey pull of the Diesel, though. I feel it's best suited for relaxed driving rather than for aggressive driving or quick overtakes. The IVT isn't very exciting, but paddles do help in getting manual control, helping in overtaking manoeuvres.

The IVT handles well, but on a full load, a push on the accelerator would be required to get to speed. Even while overtaking, gradual throttle input would be better than sudden acceleration to avoid the rubber band effect. For me, since I was coming from a torque converter, the rubber band effect was noticeable, although well-managed as compared to a few other CVTs.

As regards mileage, you can expect around the 10 kmpl mark in the City and around 15 to 16 kmpl on the highway.

So, if you are looking for a smooth and comfortable drive, the Seltos IVT is a good choice. It is not a performance-oriented engine and gearbox, and the power and torque figures show that, but it does deliver a relaxed and refined experience.

Do consider taking an extended test drive of all three engine and gearbox combos (in automatic) to get to know first hand and decide on whether the IVT suits you best.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Hey folks,
Reaching out to all the Seltos iVTowners here! I know the iVT isn’t built for outright performance like the turbo-DCT, but I’m really curious—does it still manage to be
fun to drive?

And of course—how’s the fuel efficiency been?

I’m not looking for a racer—just wondering if the iVT can deliver a smooth, relaxed drive with a little excitement when needed.

Looking forward to your thoughts and experiences. Thanks in advance.
Hello FlightDrive,

Currently I am driving Seltos GTX+ purchased last year in June and have already clocked 20k kms till date.
My primary drive is in peak Bangalore traffic with 8-9 kmpl.
From March'21 to May'24 I was driving a City ZX Automatic and clocked 62k kms. Currently it is with my parents in Kolkata.

Meanwhile I also drive my friends Creta IVT in Bangalore frequently. This gives around 12 kmpl in Bangalore traffic.

Would suggest Creta if you are looking for IVT since it has all the features while Seltos IVT is not available in top variant.

Also with my driving style and usage Seltos GTX > City CVT > Creta IVT
But this might vary from person to person.
Please take a detailed Test Drive on the same stretch of Roads and take a decision.

Happy Shopping
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Hi Guys, Wanted to upgrade the fog lights on my gtx+ , but wanted to know if that'll void the warranty?
I'm going for the projector bracket here and planning to get projectors, not sure about the warranty though, Does anyone have any ideas?
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Hi Guys, Wanted to upgrade the fog lights on my gtx+ , but wanted to know if that'll void the warranty?
I'm going for the projector bracket here and planning to get projectors, not sure about the warranty though, Does anyone have any ideas?
Unfortunately this will void your warranty, this is what the service guys told me too. But honestly the headlights are so pathetic that better lighting is critical for night driving with the Seltos. Moreover the Seltos is plagued with Moisture collection issues in the headlight as well as Fog lights and that further reduces their output.

If you do go ahead with the change, go for Aes q2m pro fog lights (also available on the same site). They will give you great results. Be sure to get a good installer though.
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Unfortunately this will void your warranty, this is what the service guys told me too. But honestly the headlights are so pathetic that better lighting is critical for night driving with the Seltos. Moreover the Seltos is plagued with Moisture collection issues in the headlight as well as Fog lights and that further reduces their output.

If you do go ahead with the change, go for Aes q2m pro fog lights (also available on the same site). They will give you great results. Be sure to get a good installer though.
Hi Behemoth,
I see you had done a few upgrades to your headlights as well, have you faced any issues up until now?Also Will it void the overall warranty or just the electrical?
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