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Old 6th March 2025, 16:45   #3346
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Hello GTlists_3131, did the ASC actually scan the car for the engine light the first time and every time after that?
The code has been scanned and it is the same O2 sensor error that is found in the history every single time. Yes it has been intermittent and comes on at times when I start the car. It stays for a day or half and disappears again after 2-3 engine start ups.

It has been causing a weird sound from the engine whenever I accelerate and during the most recent error I noticed the car being lethargic to accelerate and increased vibrations on idling. I could feel heavy vibrations with my hands on the steering, something that I haven't experienced before.

I have been told by someone that they experienced the same issue and it was diagnosed to be a faulty fuel injector. I have communicated the same to the ASC and am yet to hear from them.

KIA IND has currently acknowledged the issue and I got a call from the previous ASC, PPS KIA assuring me that they would coordinate with Naara KIA and resolve any issues at the earliest.

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Old 6th March 2025, 21:34   #3347
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The code has been scanned and it is the same O2 sensor error that is found in the history every single time. Yes it has been intermittent and comes on at times when I start the car. It stays for a day or half and disappears again after 2-3 engine start ups. It has been causing a weird sound from the engine whenever I accelerate and during the most recent error I noticed the car being lethargic to accelerate and increased vibrations on idling. I could feel heavy vibrations with my hands on the steering, something that I haven't experienced before.
GTlists_3131, that makes sense. If the O2 sensor's heater circuit is malfunctioning, or broken, it can definitely mess with fuel injection and cause all these issues at cold engine startups. Since the sensor helps regulate the air-fuel mixture, any fault in it can lead to rough idling, vibrations, sluggish acceleration, and even weird engine sounds. Also, since you’re noticing the issue mainly when starting the car, it’s worth checking if the heater circuit is broken. The O2 sensor needs to be preheated on cold startups, and if that’s not happening, it could be throwing off the air-fuel mixture until the engine warms up. Since the issue is intermittent, it would be a good idea to check the wiring harness for any rodent damage. If there’s a chewed or partially broken wire, it could be causing electrical issues and messing up the O2 sensor readings.

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I have been told by someone that they experienced the same issue and it was diagnosed to be a faulty fuel injector. I have communicated the same to the ASC and am yet to hear from them.
If the fuel injector is clogged or leaking, it’s definitely going to mess with the air-fuel ratio, which can cause all sorts of issues—rough idling, hesitation, and even those vibrations you mentioned. When that happens, the O2 sensor readings will be all over the place, making things even worse.
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Old 8th March 2025, 13:31   #3348
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

Had a quick query regarding UV Cut Glass that's provided in Seltos GT Line variant. I am feeling too much heat when parked under the Sun due to which i am unsure if it is UV Cut Glass or not. I had also read there was a brief period when KIA has discontinued providing UV Cut Glass on GT Line and then started providing it again. Mine is a Nov-Dec 2023 Mfg Seltos.

Is there any way to identify if the Glass is indeed UV Cut, apart from checking the Tint Color. Any way of finding from the Saint Gobain Sekurit Print on the Window Glass? I saw in few other Cars, there is a Transparency % printed, but i do not see it in my Car.

Sharing a Pic of my Window Glass. Could anyone owning GT Line check the Saint Gobain Print on the Window Glass and confirm how it looks like.

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Whats the reason for lower sales of Seltos vs Creta?
Seltos '23 facelift does 5-6K whereas Creta '24 facelift does 17K

They are both on same platforms. Is there a variant gap?
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Whats the reason for lower sales of Seltos vs Creta?
Seltos '23 facelift does 5-6K whereas Creta '24 facelift does 17K

They are both on same platforms. Is there a variant gap?
I can think of the following reasons:

  • The Creta is so popular that people shopping in its price segment just can’t overlook the car. Additionally, the Creta is undoubtedly one of the most sought-after cars in the used car market as well.
  • In terms of after-sales service and overall reach, Kia lags far behind in comparison.
  • Brand acceptability could be another factor.
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I completely agree with your perspective. After covering around 33,000 km, I believe I will start changing the engine oil every 5,000 km for peace of mind. Additionally, once the warranty period is over, I definitely want to switch to thicker oils. Although I haven't researched which oil to use yet, I will begin looking into it as the time approaches.
Although it is a personal opinion, please do stick to recommend oil change intervals. From a performance perspective, there is no advantage to change change oils so quickly. From an environmental perspective as well, engine oils are generally discarded improperly so extending their life as long as possible helps.

Besides, engines are very hardy. There are cases of engines running 60k kms without an oil change. So a few thousand kms doesn't hurt.

Changing the spec of oils is also not recommended as new engines are built to a lot tighter tolerance and can't take too much deviation.

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Sharing a Pic of my Window Glass. Could anyone owning GT Line check the Saint Gobain Print on the Window Glass and confirm how it looks like.

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This is how it appears on my GTX. However, this isn't the OEM windshield; I had to replace the original one due to a crack.

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Whats the reason for lower sales of Seltos vs Creta?
Seltos '23 facelift does 5-6K whereas Creta '24 facelift does 17K

They are both on same platforms. Is there a variant gap?

Check this link from autocar which mentions why creta is zooming ahead of seltos by a mile

Reason 1
2019 : Kia was launched with excellent diesel engines much better than creta , 2024 : Diesel sales have fizzled out in the Indian automobile market and so has Seltos

Reason 2

Hyundai is dumping its imt engines to Kia and these engines have failed to excite the customer

Reason 3

Rigid selection of features and gearbox in the different models eg no manual in top end GTX model and offering less discounts compared to other brands

There are many more .. better to see the entire podcast and also look forward to catching some exciting scoops for the next 18 months from Hormaz on Kia’s plans in India

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