[SixPistons]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

Does anyone know in 3rd Party PDI service provider in pune. Please let me know how was the service if availed any. Also, the KIA dealer is asking me to do complete payment before getting the PDI done, though he has also mentioned that RTO registration will only be done post PDI. Please advise.

Nice, he’s trying to secure his funds before you assuring yourself a fair buy. Don’t give in. If he pushes for a payment, might be time to consider another dealer as well.

[naru80]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

the KIA dealer is asking me to do complete payment before getting the PDI done, though he has also mentioned that RTO registration will only be done post PDI. Please advise.

Nope. Full payment should be on the VIN number after PDI of the car.

Are you getting any discounts?

[Mayank07]

Originally Posted by naru80

Nope. Full payment should be on the VIN number after PDI of the car.

Are you getting any discounts?

Thanks for your advice everyone!!!

Its 2025 manufactured car (confirmed through the VIN no. as well), so not getting much discount, will be bargaining on accessories and insurance.

I am not doing full payment, agreed on partial payment though.

Also one question i had is during PDI they are asking not to connect any external devices to car, may be they are talking about OBD scanners. I have checked with multiple dealers here and all of them have the same condition. I can check paint thickness etc. but cannot use any equipment which needs to be connected to car's circuitry or similar parts of the car.

Have you faced similar challenges with KIA or any other dealers?

[SixPistons]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

Thanks for your advice everyone!!!

Its 2025 manufactured car (confirmed through the VIN no. as well), so not getting much discount, will be bargaining on accessories and insurance.

I am not doing full payment, agreed on partial payment though.

Also one question i had is during PDI they are asking not to connect any external devices to car, may be they are talking about OBD scanners. I have checked with multiple dealers here and all of them have the same condition. I can check paint thickness etc. but cannot use any equipment which needs to be connected to car's circuitry or similar parts of the car.

Have you faced similar challenges with KIA or any other dealers?

Why would you agree to partial payment before PDI. To pay before checking your vehicle is as good as paying in full without checking your vehicle at all.

On the off-chance, if there is an issue and things don’t work out, you might have to work them up for a 2 lac partial payment just as well as you would have to work up for a 20 lac payment, although probably not as fierce.

Think this through, it isn’t ideal to pay anything over booking amount before PDI.

Also, many cars lying around with dealers in many areas across the board. Do check with all dealers around you, and you might be able to snag a good deal on a 1-3 month old vehicle as well.

Good luck

[Mayank07]

Originally Posted by Babayaga_g007

Hey Mayank, You can try zekardo, I did my seltos's pdi through them. DO NOT do full payment before pdi. Just tell them you'll cancel your booking if they're denying.

Which dealership you got your seltos from? Did they allow doing all the scans, including the ones where some external device need to be connected?

[Kxar07]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

Thanks for your advice everyone!!!

I would strongly urge to do a full PDI before any payment apart from booking amount. On my 1st PDI, I found out that all was well externally, but the car had been driven 250+ km with disconnected dashboard to show it was run only 20 km. I only found that during PDI by Zecardo, with an OBD check. I refused to take delivery and asked them a replacement.
After a lot of huffing and puffing, they agreed. I got the second one also checked from Zecardo, and once it was OK, I paid that day.

Only leverage a buyer has is the willingness to walk away. Don't let that go.

[Mayank07]

Originally Posted by Kxar07

I would strongly urge to do a full PDI before any payment apart from booking amount. On my 1st PDI, I found out that all was well externally, but the car had been driven 250+ km with disconnected dashboard to show it was run only 20 km. I only found that during PDI by Zecardo, with an OBD check. I refused to take delivery and asked them a replacement.
After a lot of huffing and puffing, they agreed. I got the second one also checked from Zecardo, and once it was OK, I paid that day.

Only leverage a buyer has is the willingness to walk away. Don't let that go.

Thanks for the details. The challenge i am facing in Pune is none of the dealer (i have been to all of them) is allowing any external device connect and i think only OBD scan tell us if there is any internal issues like as you mentioned. I believe the dealerships have also become smart in these cases.

[Babayaga_g007]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

Which dealership you got your seltos from? Did they allow doing all the scans, including the ones where some external device need to be connected?

Got it from Mumbai- Shaw Kia, They did deny but I told them without pdi I'll cancel my booking so then they agreed. Although I wouldn't recommend them, their after sales service is horrendous.

[Mayank07]

Originally Posted by Babayaga_g007

Got it from Mumbai- Shaw Kia, They did deny but I told them without pdi I'll cancel my booking so then they agreed. Although I wouldn't recommend them, their after sales service is horrendous.

Went through some reddit post, looks like reaching to KIA india directly can be of help. Going to try that. Will keep posted.

[KryptonMonkey]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

Went through some reddit post, looks like reaching to KIA india directly can be of help. Going to try that. Will keep posted.

Don't let these dealerships bully you. You should pay only the minimum booking amount, ensure that it's FULLY refundable by getting it in writing on their official mail/letterhead and do the complete PDI in the showroom for the VIN allocated to you. Only after the PDI green flags the vehicle should you even think about paying an extra penny. Your money is your biggest leverage. Don't lose it.

A Hyundai dealership tried to pull this stunt on me and I walked away without paying the booking amount. Finally,after a week, they relented. By then I had moved on to another dealership who agreed to my PDI demands. I used Zekardo's services in Bangalore and the PDI was a thorough affair including the OBD scanner check.

Make up some excuse like you're now planning to get the vehicle with BH registration from a neighbouring state or getting a vehicle from Mumbai and that dealership is allowing a full PDI. Get creative!

[Mayank07]

Originally Posted by KryptonMonkey

Don't let these dealerships bully you. You should pay only the minimum booking amount, ensure that it's FULLY refundable by getting it in writing on their official mail/letterhead and do the complete PDI in the showroom for the VIN allocated to you. Only after the PDI green flags the vehicle should you even think about paying an extra penny. Your money is your biggest leverage. Don't lose it.

After raising my concern to KIA, the dealership has agreed to get the PDI done , and i will be continuing with it. But now i feel a sense of hostility in the way they are communicating, i am worried they may do something to the car post PDI and before delivery.

I may be overthinking here,

Also wanted to know if the full payment needed to be done before RTO registration?

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[KryptonMonkey]

Originally Posted by Mayank07

After raising my concern to KIA, the dealership has agreed to get the PDI done... But now i feel a sense of hostility in the way they are communicating, i am worried they may do something to the car post PDI and before delivery. I may be overthinking here,

Also wanted to know if the full payment needed to be done before RTO registration?

Your goal is to get a good product. You'll never see the showroom guys again once the purchase is done for at least the next 7-10 years, if not more. Stay firm, but polite in all your interactions.

Assuming all your negotiations are completed and you have everything in writing from the dealership, be ready with the finances if the PDI shows a green flag. Move fast and complete the insurance & registration within a day or two. I took my car's delivery within 2 days of the PDI including the HSRP plates in Bangalore.

Yes, the full payment will need to be done before RTO registration.

[Arikarin]

Originally Posted by @ppy.tbhp

Arikarin, my dashcam is hardwired in my Seltos without any problems. I’m sharing images of my dash cam, fuse box setup with fuse taps inserted and the fuse box diagram where I’ve marked the tapped fuses with red dots for your reference. In my setup, the battery wire is connected to the 30A driver seat electric adjustment fuse, and the ACC wire is connected to the 20A power outlet fuse for parking surveillance. This setup works perfectly and keeps everything safe. I’ve driven close to 20,000 km in the last 11 months with this setup and haven’t faced any issues. I also periodically recheck for any early signs of problems, but everything has been working smoothly, so I can confidently say this is a safe approach.
Just make sure to use good-quality, heavy-duty fuse taps, crimp and connect wires correctly to the fuse taps and avoid inserting loose wires into the fuses like in the image you shared—it can cause unnecessary and serious issues.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you need anything else or have more questions

Thanks @ppy.tbhp for the detailed instructions. I have been able to set it up using the fuse taps, but the position of the camera and the infrared light affected the functionality of IRVM's dimming functionality which now has been resolved after turning off the infrared light from the dash cam. You seem to be using an IRVM powered dash cam which looks neat and serves both the purpose. If you don't mind sharing, which is the brand that you're using?

Cheers!

[ramneek009]

One month update on my Seltos GTX+ DCT :

The odometer reads 3272km today.

In the first month, the car has been used on the highways, city as well the hills. Took the car on a road trip to Nainital-Mukteshwar with just 400kms on the odo. Not something i wanted to do with the car still in run-in period but the idea of driving a fast turbo petrol with paddle shifters on winding hilly roads seemed too enticing to pass on.

My use case scenario for Seltos is 40% city and 60% highways with 3-4 road trips every year which is how our Innova Crysta was used, the car Seltos replaces.

After spending a month with the car and understanding it better, here are some of my observations:

• Not a smooth car to live with in crawling traffic. The jerky behaviour due to inherent dct nature, grabby brakes and turbo lag all contribute to less that ideal experience in bumper to bumper traffic.
• Highway/open-roads is where the car shines. Can do triple digit speeds all day without breaking a sweat. A quick overtake? Just press the A pedal and the car zips ahead without any fuss. A long trailer? Put it in sports mode, press the A pedal and the car makes short work of it. Other than short rare bursts on the highway, i do not use sports mode. I find the car aggressive and twitchy in sports mode. At 35, i prefer my drive to be calm and relaxing so normal mode is where i use it the most.
• I used the high beam assist during my drive on the hills and found it quite useful. With car switching to high beam on a blind turn and auto switching to low beam with oncoming traffic, the drive during the night was quite easy.
• I was a bit skeptical with so many people complaining of dct gearbox heating issues in traffic on steep gradients. My drive on the hills was purely in manual mode using paddle shifters to keep the car between 2nd and 3rd gear. Shifted to N when the car stopped and fortunately did not face any gearbox heating issues even when i encountered a couple of 45+ mins jam on the hills.
• Fuel consumption is pretty interesting. I manage to get better numbers in normal mode compared to eco mode. My drive from home to work is 21kms and the car manages to give between 13-14kmpl. On longer routes, i have got 18 kmpl as well. All the figures are with AC on in normal drive mode. The MID figures are not too far off the tankful to tankful method numbers.
• I have no complaints from the suspension setup. While it does not come close to the ride quality of the Innova but having lived with both vento and jetta, i prefer the setup to be a little on the stiffer side.
• Even with electric adjustments for the driver seat, i am yet to find the sweet spot.

While i am enjoying using Seltos, there are a couple of things that could have been better like providing memory settings for the driver seat or better headlights, i hope KIA brings these improvements in the next iteration.

[@ppy.tbhp]

Originally Posted by Arikarin

Thanks @ppy.tbhp for the detailed instructions. I have been able to set it up using the fuse taps, but the position of the camera and the infrared light affected the functionality of IRVM's dimming functionality which now has been resolved after turning off the infrared light from the dash cam. You seem to be using an IRVM powered dash cam which looks neat and serves both the purpose. If you don't mind sharing, which is the brand that you're using?

Cheers!

Arikarin, Glad you got everything set up, and it's great that you resolved the IRVM dimming issue! Those little adjustments can make all the difference. I’m using the Wolfbox G900 dash cam. Been pretty happy with it so far since 2 years—works great in day and night light conditions, front camera records in 4K resolution and rear camera records in 2.5k resolution. It looks like OEM fit finish in the car with windshield mount available to fit it directly on the windshield. I was using it in my older car as well. It works without any issue when it's hardwired correctly with the supplied hardwire kit.