[Col Mehta]

Originally Posted by ashvek3141

Col Mehta ,

Since I share the same opinion as yours with regards to the Hyundai / Kia BS6 Ph2 diesels, I'm curious if you test drove the Sonet Diesel , primarily D AT.

I completely concur with you - the Creta / Seltos D AT are average at best in terms of drivability. Honestly , at full load I found even the Sonet D AT to have a bit toned down response. So , there are pretty high chances that the Ph2 tuning has taken the conservative route.

But what is surprising is that , the claimed mileage has dropped by 0.5 - 1 kmpl for the Sonet's D AT. I somehow cannot conect the dots.

Haven’t driven the phase 2 Sonet D AT, but I did take a TD of the BS6 D AT back in 2021 and it was fun! Pardon me if I’m not entirely informed, but do you own a Sonet diesel phase 2? Maybe it’s better than the phase 2 Creta and Seltos with the same engine but lesser weight..?

The phase 2 Creta D AT that I drove a few months ago was quite underwhelming. Our BS4 Creta D AT feels far superior in terms of overall drivability (the low end torque is just so addictive). This is one of the reasons I’m going through a tough time replacing it with a DCT.

I’m quite certain that the phase 2 diesel engines have been detuned, but lesser fuel efficiency makes no sense to me either.

[ashvek3141]

Originally Posted by Col Mehta

Pardon me if I’m not entirely informed, but do you own a Sonet diesel phase 2? Maybe it’s better than the phase 2 Creta and Seltos with the same engine but lesser weight..?

I briefly owned the Sonet D AT BS6 , but unfortunately had to be written off.

I’m looking to pick the BS6 Ph2 Sonet D AT now ; but my situation is just like yours !

P. S.: The petrol motor of the Sonet is also puny 1 L , 3 cylinder only.

[GTX+]

Originally Posted by MalnadMansha

Did anybody buy 7d floor mat from the dealer itself? I felt it's a bit overpriced, but quality maybe good. There are a few options at half the price in amazon, but not sure about the quality.
Which mats are you using? Recommendations please..

I bought this mat from Amazon. Extremely good quality (lot better than dealer's), premium look, matches the black n white interiors of GTX+ and fits well.

Link: CHIRON 10D Compatible with Kia Seltos (2023-Onwards) Custom Fitted 10D Antiskid Car Floor Mats for - Black
https://amzn.in/d/83t0TEN


I bought it at pretty much the same rate as being offered now, definitely cheaper than what dealer quoted for their 7D mats.

[marathp]

Originally Posted by dextor

Better to call up the tyre company customer care and lodge the complaint. If they have office in your town they will ask to bring the tyre. They inspect & provide replacement immediately if the claim is valid. Take all the proofs & photos and if possible letter from Kia service center and sent it over email to tyre company.

Goodyear has some thing known as WFS (Worry Free Service) where they provide replacement for all cases. Refer details of warranty in their portal
https://www.goodyear.co.in/customer-...arranty-policy

Thanks for taking time to respond and sorry for the delayed response.

GoodYear did not allow OE warranty to be claimed directly, they asked me to go through the Kia service centre to claim warranty. WFS is also not applicable for OE tyres.

Warranty claim process was not easy in my case, I had to visit the service centre 35KMs away twice and there was 4-5 hours wait time while the service centre was coordinating with GoodYear to claim the warranty.

Best part is, Goodyear approved claim and replaced both tyres, and I am impressed with the Kia service centre Incheon Palakkad.

Worst part is, two of the front tyres on a brand new Seltos (less than 4 months and 1800 KM) having manufacturing defects. I lost trust on GoodYear tyres.

[Black Panther]

Originally Posted by F1amit

I have a query about Manual mode in Seltos GTX+ petrol. If vehicle is in D mode and paddle shifters gets used, does it take vehicle into S mode?

Reason for asking this is while driving to office this week, I accidently pulled "+" paddle shifter. Vehicle was in "D" mode - with D2 shown on MID. As soon as paddle shifter got pressed, MID started showing 3. Does that mean car went into S mode? or this is a different scenario from pure S mode?

The good thing with paddle shifters is that they can be operated in D mode too, just in case you require quick upshift or downshift. This does not mean that the vehicle went into S mode. The paddle shifter mode (just numbers shown on MID), will be automatically shifted back to D mode if there is no input for about 6 seconds (not sure of the exact duration, but somewhere around that).

On the other hand, S mode is like a manual mode in an automatic car where either the paddle shifters can be used or the gear knob can be used to shift gears. Note that the car downshifts automatically if the users input is not aligning with the expected gear (number), but upshifting is completely manual and it doesn't change the gears until the user upshifts.

Hope this helps.

[Col Mehta]

Originally Posted by Black Panther

The paddle shifter mode (just numbers shown on MID), will be automatically shifted back to D mode if there is no input for about 6 seconds (not sure of the exact duration, but somewhere around that).

And in case you want to do that manually, hold the “+” paddle for couple of seconds and the transmission will go back to the D mode.

[MalnadMansha]

I am checking quotes for insurance for the new GTX+, which will be delivered this week. In Acko, when I select all the available options and set IDV to the maximum, it shows Rs. 38603 + GST.

However, in policybazaar, shows policies starting from as cheap as 27,751 plus tax from Kotak, as seen above. In Policybazaar also I have selected all available options. Why is it so cheap? Is it not reliable or does it miss anything important? Has anybody taken these policies from policybazaar?

[GTX+]

Originally Posted by MalnadMansha

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I am checking quotes for insurance for the new GTX+, which will be delivered this week. In Acko, when I select all the available options and set IDV to the maximum, it shows Rs. 38603 + GST.

However, in policybazaar, shows policies starting from as cheap as 27,751 plus tax from Kotak, as seen above. In Policybazaar also I have selected all available options. Why is it so cheap? Is it not reliable or does it miss anything important? Has anybody taken these policies from policybazaar?

The 27k quote appears to be without any add ons. Once you select add ons as per requirement, the total may reach 30k.

I have purchased motor insurance (of various insurers) over the years from PB and have never had any issues, including a claim I made few years ago.

After selecting the add ons you need, if the total quote is acceptable to you, you may go ahead without any worry.

I took the Acko insurance for my seltos directly from Acko because the quote they offered was slightly cheaper (around 3 or 4k, dont remember excatly) than what I was getting on PB. The entire process was seamless and the Acko team was extremely helpful at every step. Even the Acko app is very convenient to use and has all the options one may need.


P.S. Btw can you please can you confirm what you mean by "All the available options" in Acko? Do you mean you have selected all the available Add Ons? If that is so, just a suggestion that you may not need all add ons. IIRC, I have only chosen 3 or 4 of them.

[Black Panther]

Originally Posted by MalnadMansha

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In Acko, when I select all the available options and set IDV to the maximum, it shows Rs. 38603 + GST.

The price also depends on the IDV you select apart from the add-ons. I'm told that it is recommended to put IDV at 95% rather than maximum, as during a claim that's the permissible limit. Even I purchased from Acko.

[MalnadMansha]

Originally Posted by abhi3284

They are offering this Deal, if directly bought from them. I have been talking to them over Call.

They have just made a blanket statement and have not elaborated as such. Nor will they do i believe. My understanding of this is, if everything works fine as expected, no one's going to say anything. In an unfortunate case of any electrical issues cropping up, SC guys will have an easy escape route to blame the cause on the Hardwiring done and deny Warranty. There might be ways to counter it though.

Not sure if Hardwiring use-case can be compared to upgrading Headlamps from 60W to 100/90W Bulbs with a Relay. Which i had done for my previous Car during Warranty period and it worked out well. I did not think so much about it when i did it but am spending too much time thinking now in case of Hardwiring. Probably because there is too much technology involved now. Or maybe it is not too much of a big deal that we are making it sound like.

Ultimately, it depends on the risk appetite one is willing to take.

Does it come with usb charging option or only hardwire option? I couldn't find that info in their site.

Originally Posted by GTX+

The 27k quote appears to be without any add ons. Once you select add ons as per requirement, the total may reach 30k.

I have purchased motor insurance (of various insurers) over the years from PB and have never had any issues, including a claim I made few years ago.

After selecting the add ons you need, if the total quote is acceptable to you, you may go ahead without any worry.

I took the Acko insurance for my seltos directly from Acko because the quote they offered was slightly cheaper (around 3 or 4k, dont remember excatly) than what I was getting on PB. The entire process was seamless and the Acko team was extremely helpful at every step. Even the Acko app is very convenient to use and has all the options one may need.


P.S. Btw can you please can you confirm what you mean by "All the available options" in Acko? Do you mean you have selected all the available Add Ons? If that is so, just a suggestion that you may not need all add ons. IIRC, I have only chosen 3 or 4 of them.

Yes I've selected all the available add-ons including electrical, non electrical, etc etc

Originally Posted by Black Panther

The price also depends on the IDV you select apart from the add-ons. I'm told that it is recommended to put IDV at 95% rather than maximum, as during a claim that's the permissible limit. Even I purchased from Acko.

Oh is it.. But how does keeping IDV to maximum affect the claims?

[Black Panther]

Originally Posted by MalnadMansha

Oh is it.. But how does keeping IDV to maximum affect the claims?

This is from the Acko website. It's got something to do with IRDAIb regulations where they fix the depreciation costs. So, it in turn means that no matter how high the IDV you opt for, they will only pay as per the regulations in case the car is totalled or lost.

[MalnadMansha]

Originally Posted by Black Panther

This is from the Acko website. It's got something to do with IRDAIb regulations where they fix the depreciation costs. So, it in turn means that no matter how high the IDV you opt for, they will only pay as per the regulations in case the car is totalled or lost.

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In that case, it doesn't matter even if I keep full value as IDV.

Considering engine, electricals, are already under warranty from Kia, for a new car, it doesn't make sense to select engine protection, RSA, key protection, etc I guess.


Does the air purifier in GTX+ have an option to use a perfume strip under the armrest? If yes, do we get refill packs for the same as well?

[arcanec]

Originally Posted by MalnadMansha

In that case, it doesn't matter even if I keep full value as IDV.

Considering engine, electricals, are already under warranty from Kia, for a new car, it doesn't make sense to select engine protection, RSA, key protection, etc I guess.

You can keep the full value as IDV. It only means you'll pay a higher premium to your insurer without you getting any benefit out of it. As someone above explained, the insurer can restrict themselves to the IRDAI defined limits for coverage. If those few extra hundreds/thousands in premium don't matter to you, go ahead and keep the full value as IDV.

Warranty covers issues that crop up due to manufacturing defects. Insurance gives you coverage against damage occurring due to your negligence (or that of those around you) or natural calamities.
Eg. Assume your engine or electricals are damaged due to water logging in your parking bay, KIA isn't going to fix it for free.

[akash.yadav001]

Originally Posted by 07CR

Note- Goes without saying, the high beam can be a huge nuisance for oncoming traffic, and I plan to use it only when necessary.

I'm also looking for similar upgrade for my car. Can you please share the contact details of the seller? Thanks in advance

[praveen_v]

Originally Posted by MathanK

I have below questions to existing owners, your inputs will really help.

1. How much mileage I can expect from DCT in peak Bangalore traffic?
2. Do you see any DCT overheating or jerk in bumper-to-bumper city traffic?
3. Do I need to worry about DPF clogging issues for continuous city usage of Diesel AT? Kia Sales team told me that Seltos diesel will not have any DPF issues even if I don’t hit the highway for months or keeping the car idle as it got AdBlue, is that true?
4. How is the diesel AT performance with full load on highways, inclines & hilly roads? Can it comfortably cruise at 100-120KMPH with some room for those quick overtakes?
5. How is the ride comfort of 18” wheel? It is really bothersome? I know Kia did some suspension retuning in the new Seltos to improve the ride comfort, but heard that it’s still not up to the mark, unfortunately I failed to notice during my test drive.

Many of us here including me have gone through this DCT Vs AT decision. I finally went ahead with the DCT after extensive TD of both. I was also terribly confused initially and kept changing my mind between DCT and AT before finally deciding on DCT based on my running which is 90% city and occasional highway drives maybe once is 2 months.

1. Mileage you can expect anywhere from 9-12 based on conditions and if you drive with heavy/light foot. What I see is that if you are crawling in D2-D3 (less than 30kmph) most of the time it will hover around 8-10 and once you get some road where you can go upto D4-D5 (40-60kmph) mileage tends to increase around 11. So depends if you get some stretches where you can drive steadily around 40-60 then you will get double digit.
2. So far not observed any Jerks or overheating. I just follow basic things like shifting to N in cases where you stop for more than 5 secs and shifting to eco mode makes it smoother in stop-go traffic.
3. DPF clogging will happen even with Adblue. This is one of the reasons why I did not go with AT. Once in 2-3 weeks it needs to be taken on a highway drive to keep it cleared as its difficult to keep RPM above 2-2.5k consistently in the city especially with the AT box which tends to upshift around 2k rpm.
4. As many others mentioned in the forum, I also felt that the diesel AT felt detuned and not great to drive compared to DCT. It felt just ok and driveability has taken a hit with BS6 phase2. Once you are up to speed it can cruise comfortable at speeds you mentioned even with 5 on board with luggage. Also I did Test drives with both DCT and AT on the same day along the same 5km stretch and while the DCT showed 11kmpl, the AT showed 14.5kmpl. So I did not see a huge difference in FE and given my low running did not warrant a diesel.
5. 18" though not ideal is not deal breaker and is very much manageable. While the ride is not very plush over bad roads, they are not bone jarring either. Its just in the middle and it has really not bothered me at all. Keeping the tyre PSI at 32-33 is comfortable.

End of day my decision was to go for DCT and take extended warranty and enjoy the performance. Hyundai-Kia have sold a huge no of cars with the same DCT box and while we saw some overheating issues reported in the forum, they were mostly from the early days and these seem to have been sorted now.