[ssoni.1411]

Originally Posted by ashvek3141

The top-end variant is actually the X-line which has the Heads up display. However, the GTX+ doesn’t.

Creta’s rear bench is marginally better than the Seltos. Maybe it has got to do with the inclination of the backrest, but it surely it a tad better in Creta.

I too feel the seats height are taller as well for some reason. I sat back to back in Creta and seltos facelift. Felt more spacious in Creta then Seltos

[qr20de]

So managed to hustle (pestering) a limited test drive of the GTX+ petrol turbo DCT. Initial thoughts:

- In a aggressive driving style, engine is very responsive, but does get a little loud higher on the revs. I was extremely impressed with the DCT's shift; how quick and smooth they are. I tried the paddle shifters too and was very impressed. Car feels planted
- In a sedate driving style, the engine is very quiet; you can only hear the wind noise from the a.c. and ventilated seats. You barely notice the DCT shifts
- The lane keeping tech and emergency braking with definitely take some getting used to; especially the lane keeping given that it adjusts constantly in your hands
- The blind spot views in the cluster, ventilated seats and driving position, especially for the adjustable thigh support, (I'm 6'4") are a huge blessing
- The ISG system works really well. You can hear the starter motor slightly (this is not the same system as the Maruti SVHS, because its not got a hybrid battery. It uses DC-DC converters to re-start the engine on idle.)
- You'll need a day to go through all the settings in the infotainment system considering there's so much personalization to be had.
- The cabin is for sure a little claustrophobic because of the all black so the sunshade will mostly always be open

The dealer told me that the GTX+ diesel should get approval this week while the petrol should be done by the end of next week, in Tamilnadu

Hope it answers some fellow members' questions or at least gives some insights.

[ashvek3141]

Originally Posted by qr20de

- The blind spot views in the cluster, ventilated seats and driving position, especially for the adjustable thigh support, (I'm 6'4") are a huge blessing

I'm pretty surprised that you found the car to be comfortable for your height. I'm 6 feet tall and I find it 'just about okay'; If I was any taller, it would've been a major deal breaker.

Also, if I'm not mistaken there is no adjustable thigh support in Seltos; unless you mean sliding the seat fore and aft.

[SeniorC]

Originally Posted by qr20de

- The cabin is for sure a little claustrophobic because of the all black so the sunshade will mostly always be open

Hope it answers some fellow members' questions or at least gives some insights.

Thanks for the feedback. My similar impressions too. I found the height adjustment to be minimal, although the fore and aft movement was considerable. So not sure what you found as good thigh support.

I sincerely hope Kia gets away from this "sporty" black mania and gives atleast the roof liner, and panoramic sunroof cover in beige colour. They may still keep this black as an option to those few who love the claustrophobic black all around as a sporty (?) feature.

Kia, are you listening?

[jazzy]

Need some advice. My SA (and manager) wants me to pay the complete amount (disbursement of loan + down payment by cheque) saying he has allocated my vehicle. However, I don't see any update on logging-in to Kia website, nor has he given me any more details. Is this the normal process? I understand this is a seller's market now but this seems a little extreme. Please note that I'll be taking the vehicle delivery in about 15-20 days and I have made that clear to the dealer and they are ok with the registration to be done then.

During my short test drive, wife immediately noticed the cramped looking cabin (sunroof was not open during that time). She was expecting to feel like she entered a luxury car but it was far from it. Black interiors are just dull, makes the cabin appear smaller and is a major letdown in an otherwise impressive package. It was entirely different with the HTX+ cabin having brown interiors, kept in the showroom.

[qr20de]

Originally Posted by SeniorC

Thanks for the feedback. My similar impressions too. I found the height adjustment to be minimal, although the fore and aft movement was considerable. So not sure what you found as good thigh support.

Originally Posted by ashvek3141

Also, if I'm not mistaken there is no adjustable thigh support in Seltos; unless you mean sliding the seat fore and aft.

The GTX + has the 8 way driver adjustable seat; recline, fore/aft, height and under thigh. Check it in the test drive. I was able to push my seat as far as possible and raise the height of the under thigh so that my knee's not bent at a right angle without any cushioning. With the telescopic steering reach, I was able to find a really comfortable driving position.

[ralto]

I visited the Kia showroom today, to check out Seltos out of curiosity and not much hope, but I was pleasantly surprised. Well, honestly, I was blown away. I think I saw the GTX Plus, if I remember correctly and the non-black interior was not only well-put but also gave an impression of luxury. The seat quality, tinted/UV-cut glasses, and panoramic sunroof really stand out.
I was not a fan of the car or the brand going in, but this experience changed my perception.
Oh, and the responsiveness of the touchscreen interface felt terrific. I like the XUV700's interface but I think Kia's feels superior.

Few minutes prior to that I had taken TD of Grand Vitara mild hybrid, but the car doesn't feel that good in terms of fit and finish and the engine is nothing to write about. It feels aged and was even slower than by 85HP Duster.

If Kia can score a good safety rating, then there is hardly a thing to complain about. Those are my two cents.

[nkvyas]

I have booked the Seltos XLine Petrol DCT with the K-Code on 14-July-2023 from Automotive Kia, Hyderabad. The response was prompt from the dealership and they assigned me the SA the very next day.

I was invited to the launch on 15th which was good and the XLine which was available there was the Diesel variant. Even the dealership folks weren't familiar with the new changes that came along with the facelift.















The overall experience was good with the car. Personally, I would have chosen the GTX+ but the only thing I didn't like is the interior seat tubular shape & colour combination. The sage green interior of XLine is just stunning.

The next day I was asked by SA to send me some docs for confirming the booking which I sent and he shared the quote and confirmed the variant. The test drive was done on Friday 28th July with GTX+ DCT Petrol Automatic. Before going with the drive experience, I'd like to share a few points about the other questions I asked and got their answers.

Q1 - Is there an option for getting PPF done in KIA showroom itself?
A - Yes. They have dedicated partners which does that. The SA has given my number to the person who called me and explained about the process. They quoted me 1.2 lacs for Kinght Skin Matte TPU PPF for full vehicle with 7 years warranty all over India. He also agreed to black out the chrome line on doors with Black PPF free of cost. The vehicle will be delivered to me with PPF done. I also got the quotation [1.6 lacs] from Ceramic Pro Kavaca Matte PPF.

Q2 - Can I opt for BH series number?
A - No. Since the Telangana govt hasn't started it. it can't be done. There might be option to get it registered in other state but I haven't explored that yet.

Q3 - What Accessories are included?
A - Typical stuff including mud flaps, mats, air freshener, idol etc. I asked for the foot step but apparently it's not part of accessories pkg & need to be bought separately [~15-16k]

Q4 - Home Loan options with SBI are available?
A - Yes. The SA gave my number to concerned person and he contacted me for all the formalities. It was pretty smooth. I just need to go to bank once to do some signatures and pay the processing fee & stamp duty [total ~9.6k].

Test Drive Experience

The SA promptly schdeuled the drive and brought the car to my home. It was a GTX+ DCT Petrol. I went with one of my friend and they were two persons from showroom so total 4 people were in the car.

I took a test drive for 10-15 kms approx constituting the highway, my usual routes, some bad roads. The thing which I wanted to check most is the suspension feel and comfort especially in rear seats. The driving experience gave lot of pleasure. Here are some things I like & didn't like

Likes
1. Stunning looks and matte finish is just abosolute perfection. The DRLs stand out during night and rear LED tail lamps add an extra layer of premium feel. The car looks beautiful from every possible angle.
2. Ride comfort came out great. Although little on the firm side but nothing which gives u discomfort. Tried extereme pothole testing on driver & rear seat. No deal breaker for me.
3. Preimuim interior, comfortable seats with ventilation, great fit and finish, ergonomically placed buttons are ergonomically placed. Paddle shifters feels sturdy and responsive.
4. ADAS is welcome addition with plethora of features to keep the driving safe and tech savvy.
5. Panaromic sunroof is another worthy addition which makes the whole cabin a lot roomier with the dark interiors.
6. Bright and responsive touchscreen & instrument cluster, dual zone AC is chiller, music system is pretty nice.
7. The ride was good and even with 4 persons in the car, there was no shortage of power. DCT was pretty responsive on both auto & manual modes.

Dislikes
1. Cost cutting on wiper blades, manual fuel lid opener feels cheap considering the premium package of 20+ lacs.
2. NVH levels could have been better but has a sporty grunt which will not bother. Maybe used a better Yoko tyres for better tyre noise reduction. Currently using Yoko BluEarth which are very silent and provides nice grip.
3. ADAS can be a bit aggressive which sometimes is a little uncomfortable. Would have been better if there was an option to set the sensitivity.

Now the biggest dilemma I am in is whether to buy the car in Telangana and pay 2% [~40k] extra tax as there is another vehicle [bike] on my name or get it from my hometown [MP]. I am also preferring a BH series number which is not available in Telangana. I have reached out to Kia dealers in my hometown to get more details on this. The SA for Hyd has promised me the delivery by 20-Aug with PPF.

[ssoni.1411]

Originally Posted by jazzy

Need some advice. My SA (and manager) wants me to pay the complete amount (disbursement of loan + down payment by cheque) saying he has allocated my vehicle. However, I don't see any update on logging-in to Kia website, nor has he given me any more details. Is this the normal process? I understand this is a seller's market now but this seems a little extreme. Please note that I'll be taking the vehicle delivery in about 15-20 days and I have made that clear to the dealer and they are ok with the registration to be done then.

Congratulations your purchase.
Ask him for VIN details of your car and booking receipt. Also please disburse payments after doing PDI thoroughly. Team BHP's PDI checklist is the perfect thing to carry. Also dealerships need around 7-8 days to get your car registered and stuff hence they are asking you to pay. You can go ahead with the payment after doing the complete PDI

[ssoni.1411]

Originally Posted by nkvyas

Q1 - Is there an option for getting PPF done in KIA showroom itself?
A - Yes. They have dedicated partners which does that. The SA has given my number to the person who called me and explained about the process. They quoted me 1.2 lacs for Kinght Skin Matte TPU PPF for full vehicle with 7 years warranty all over India. He also agreed to black out the chrome line on doors with Black PPF free of cost. The vehicle will be delivered to me with PPF done. I also got the quotation [1.6 lacs] from Ceramic Pro Kavaca Matte PPF.

If budget is not an issue I highly recommend you to get the PPF done at Ceramic Pro. I guess they give you a 10 year warranty and they are really professional and brilliant with their job. I am attaching you a link from Motoroctane who got their PPF done at Ceramic Pro and a couple of my friends too have got it done from there. Agreed it is a bit pricey, but the quality and services they offer are really brilliant.

Link:

https://youtu.be/Ua3F1x9yO9o

[Mr Anderson]

Originally Posted by ssoni.1411

If budget is not an issue I highly recommend you to get the PPF done at Ceramic Pro. I guess they give you a 10 year warranty and they are really professional and brilliant with their job. I am attaching you a link from Motoroctane who got their PPF done at Ceramic Pro and a couple of my friends too have got it done from there. Agreed it is a bit pricey, but the quality and services they offer are really brilliant.

Link:
https://Youtu.be/Ua3F1x9yO9o

I contacted ceramic pro in my city for the same Kia seltos xline that I pre booked and they quoted 2 lakh for it and when I hesitated for such a huge amount they said to instead opt for the ceramic coating.

When I was concerned about ceramic taking away the matte look, they assured me that, it's not the coating but the process of paint correction and compounding that give the cars a glossy finish which they won't do. And they quoted 56000 for ceramic coating with 3 year warranty They clearly said the ceramic coat will protect the car from a lot of wear and tear and showed a few videos how superficial scratches could be simply wiped off but in case a deep scratch comes up the only thing that can be done is repaint as they cannot do puffing in a matte finish.after the repaint they can do the ceramic coat again for a nominal cost.

I contacted my sa after this and he told me to bring the car to him in case a deep scratch appears and he will utilise the car insurance to repaint the entire panel.

The question is whether a ceramic pro's ceramic coating can be relied upon as well because their ppf even if they bring it down to 1.5 lakh is still way out of my budget.

[ssoni.1411]

Originally Posted by Mr Anderson

When I was concerned about ceramic taking away the matte look, they assured me that, it's not the coating but the process of paint correction and compounding that give the cars a glossy finish which they won't do. And they quoted 56000 for ceramic coating with 3 year warranty They clearly said the ceramic coat will protect the car from a lot of wear and tear and showed a few videos how superficial scratches could be simply wiped off but in case a deep scratch comes up the only thing that can be done is repaint as they cannot do puffing in a matte finish.after the repaint they can do the ceramic coat again for a nominal cost.

I contacted my sa after this and he told me to bring the car to him in case a deep scratch appears and he will utilise the car insurance to repaint the entire panel.

The question is whether a ceramic pro's ceramic coating can be relied upon as well because their ppf even if they bring it down to 1.5 lakh is still way out of my budget.

Ceramic coating will help you prevent normal wear and tear. Normal scratches, swirl marks and small chips and dents, but deep scratches will require correction. Also since you're buying an X-Line I doubt you'll have a lot of options for ceramic since matt colour is really tough to maintain. Also ceramic pro does ceramic and PPF both together, they'll first apply ceramic coating and then put on PPF hence adding an extra layer of protection. If your budget doesn't permit, you can go for ceramic coating and get your car repainted every 1-2 years. My venue too has been ceramic coated. Normally the conditions of our roads and country warrant a repaint every 2-3 years, but X-Line would require it every 1-2 years.

[Mr Anderson]

Originally Posted by ssoni.1411

Ceramic coating will help you prevent normal wear and tear. Normal scratches, swirl marks and small chips and dents, but deep scratches will require correction. Also since you're buying an X-Line I doubt you'll have a lot of options for ceramic since matt colour is really tough to maintain. Also ceramic pro does ceramic and PPF both together, they'll first apply ceramic coating and then put on PPF hence adding an extra layer of protection. If your budget doesn't permit, you can go for ceramic coating and get your car repainted every 1-2 years. My venue too has been ceramic coated. Normally the conditions of our roads and country warrant a repaint every 2-3 years, but X-Line would require it every 1-2 years.

Thanx for your reply. As far as I know ppf after ceramic coating is never done. It's always the other way round. Ppf first then if you want ceramic coating over it for added gloss.

Is ceramic pro's ceramic coating worth 56000. It's almost double the cost of other detailers including carzspa that I talked to.

[ssoni.1411]

Originally Posted by Mr Anderson

Thanx for your reply. As far as I know ppf after ceramic coating is never done. It's always the other way round. Ppf first then if you want ceramic coating over it for added gloss.

Is ceramic pro's ceramic coating worth 56000. It's almost double the cost of other detailers including carzspa that I talked to.

So sorry I didn't know about the ceramic post ppf thing.
For better peace of mind, you can go with the dealership and get ceramic done from their end. It'll be cheaper than ceramic pro and I guess they too offer 3 year warranty if I'm not wrong. Plus you can get it polished and everything in the ASC during service so you save a trip there as well. Ceramic Pro is expensive since it's an international brand and they use their homegrown products.

[Mr Anderson]

Originally Posted by ssoni.1411

So sorry I didn't know about the ceramic post ppf thing.
For better peace of mind, you can go with the dealership and get ceramic done from their end. It'll be cheaper than ceramic pro and I guess they too offer 3 year warranty if I'm not wrong. Plus you can get it polished and everything in the ASC during service so you save a trip there as well. Ceramic Pro is expensive since it's an international brand and they use their homegrown products.

I talked to SA and he told me that they don't do any ceramic coating on the xline as a company policy. All he said is he would happily help me use my car insurance as many times as I want to repaint the panels.