[trakesht]

Folks with SX(O) IVT, are you able to use cruise control?
I am in the market for the new Verna and was mildly annoyed/ surprised to be told that there is adaptive cruise control only with a DCT engine.

If that's the case, I am wondering if the 1.3L premium on road for an SX(O) DCT (17.7L vs 16.4L) over the IVT is worth it?
After test driving the DCT, I'm slightly let down by the engine as I did not find the engine to be significantly faster in the 0-60kph range where it'll spend most of the time for me.

Also, how tough is to maintain abyss black? While it looks cool, I'm a bit apprehensive of maintaining it (bangalore hard water + potentially careless washing with dirty clothes by the guy who does it in my building)

[MyLife_MyCar]

Originally Posted by trakesht

If that's the case, I am wondering if the 1.3L premium on road for an SX(O) DCT (17.7L vs 16.4L) over the IVT is worth it?

The premium is mainly due to the engine and the transmission. On the features, IVT lacks Smart cruise control, EPB and rear disc brakes. I'm have no clue on the braking of IVT, but brakes in DCT are very effective.

After test driving the DCT, I'm slightly let down by the engine as I did not find the engine to be significantly faster in the 0-60kph range where it'll spend most of the time for me.

Did you drive it in normal mode or sports mode? As we now know, mostly all DCTs (including VW DSG) have made the response more linear. So, it may not be as explosive as you might have expected. However, I can say that pressing the A-pedal with a little bit of heavy foot certainly makes the car leap forward.

Also, how tough is to maintain abyss black? While it looks cool, I'm a bit apprehensive of maintaining it (bangalore hard water + potentially careless washing with dirty clothes by the guy who does it in my building)

Oh boy, black color demands a lot of pampering. If you don't have a covered parking or your surroundings have a lot of dust, it will take tremendous effort to maintain black car. My neighborhood has a metro construction going on. Just one day of dust is enough to turn the black car brown
And black color is highly susceptible to swirl marks if you give it to a regular/daily car wash guy.

But at the end, there's is nothing like a black long sedan. Personally, I feel Verna looks the best in black, followed by starry night

[fhdowntheline]

Originally Posted by trakesht

After test driving the DCT, I'm slightly let down by the engine as I did not find the engine to be significantly faster in the 0-60kph range where it'll spend most of the time for me.

If you plan to use the Verna strictly as a city car, you may be better off with the IVT which will be smoother in the 0-80 kph regime in general. But if you want real performance, like swiftly accelerating from 50-100 kph amd maintaing effortless cruising in the 80-120 kph regime, the DCT is the better option.Most importantly, it gives great fuel efficiency in that speed regime( for a turbo charged petrol).

[TJ02]

Originally Posted by trakesht

Folks with SX(O) IVT, are you able to use cruise control?


If that's the case, I am wondering if the 1.3L premium on road for an SX(O) DCT (17.7L vs 16.4L) over the IVT is worth it?
After test driving the DCT, I'm slightly let down by the engine as I did not find the engine to be significantly faster in the 0-60kph range where it'll spend most of the time for me.

Also, how tough is to maintain abyss black?

I have a SXO IVT, cruise control works absolutely normal only missing thing as mentioned earlier is adaptive cruise control. I have a turbo petrol car as well and for city drives and highway cruise IVT is no less. Till 120, 140 kmph you will find no issues with IVT. However, if you drive pedal to the metal then DCT makes sense.

[trakesht]

Originally Posted by TJ02

I have a SXO IVT, cruise control works absolutely normal only missing thing as mentioned earlier is adaptive cruise control. I have a turbo petrol car as well and for city drives and highway cruise IVT is no less. Till 120, 140 kmph you will find no issues with IVT. However, if you drive pedal to the metal then DCT makes sense.

Ah, can you elaborate when you say it works absolutely normal? For ex: if I set it at 80kmph, and the vehicle ahead of it slows down to 60, will the vehicle react automatically to apply brake/ modulate fuel to slowdown to 60?

[TJ02]

Originally Posted by trakesht

Ah, can you elaborate when you say it works absolutely normal? For ex: if I set it at 80kmph, and the vehicle ahead of it slows down to 60, will the vehicle react automatically to apply brake/ modulate fuel to slowdown to 60?

No it will not. This is not adaptive cruise control.

[amitmk]

Originally Posted by trakesht

Folks with SX(O) IVT, are you able to use cruise control?
I am in the market for the new Verna and was mildly annoyed/ surprised to be told that there is adaptive cruise control only with a DCT engine.

If that's the case, I am wondering if the 1.3L premium on road for an SX(O) DCT (17.7L vs 16.4L) over the IVT is worth it?
After test driving the DCT, I'm slightly let down by the engine as I did not find the engine to be significantly faster in the 0-60kph range where it'll spend most of the time for me.

Also, how tough is to maintain abyss black? While it looks cool, I'm a bit apprehensive of maintaining it (bangalore hard water + potentially careless washing with dirty clothes by the guy who does it in my building)

Black looks the best but the dust will mess it up. To counter this issue I took the Titan grey color and I have no regrets. The dust is almost the same color so it doesn’t spoil the look of the car.

Take the SxO DCT. I had my first highway drive this weekend. The adaptive cruise control is an awesome feature along with the blind spot assistance and lane keep assist on highways. Besides these I’ve disabled all ADAS features as I found them too intrusive and felt the braking is too harsh and will someday surely cause a rear end accident even if it prevents a forward collision.

The DCT with black interiors will also be easier to maintain.

Have not yet done my first service so haven’t pushed the pedal hard so far. After 1500 kms is when I’ll be using the power if I’m on a highway without speed cams.

This morning I got 24.5 kmpl on the pune expressway but the traffic from New Bombay onwards spoilt it all. If u r stuck in traffic then this one is a fuel guzzler.

[amg5610]

Originally Posted by trakesht

Folks with SX(O) IVT, are you able to use cruise control?
I am in the market for the new Verna and was mildly annoyed/ surprised to be told that there is adaptive cruise control only with a DCT engine.

If that's the case, I am wondering if the 1.3L premium on road for an SX(O) DCT (17.7L vs 16.4L) over the IVT is worth it?
After test driving the DCT, I'm slightly let down by the engine as I did not find the engine to be significantly faster in the 0-60kph range where it'll spend most of the time for me.

Also, how tough is to maintain abyss black? While it looks cool, I'm a bit apprehensive of maintaining it (bangalore hard water + potentially careless washing with dirty clothes by the guy who does it in my building)

Hey!
Starry Night and Black are the two best colours in the line-up but both of them are prone to accumlating dust and thus occurence of swirl marks which can be solved by detailing down the line or can be avoided if you opt for ppf.

[bblost]

This is just a PSA (Public Service Announcement) that may or may not help you.

Something got stuck in my front left tire. Moving forward made a very loud shrieking sound. I moved to the corner of the road. The road was with a gentle downward slope but I had no choice but to park.

Engaged "P" and hand brake.

The jack is kept with the spare tire.

I am used to the jack in my old Chevy Sail. The Verna is a much heavier car. I put the jack and rotated and rotated and rotated. This takes forever to turn it around and start lifting the car.

Then disengaged the hand brake and move to neutral. The car lurched a little forward and settled down on the road.

But that small jerk freed up whatever had gotten stuck and the sound went away.

I sincerely advice all of you to check out the jack and get used to it.

You never know when you may need to use it and since like me, most of you have moved from an approximately 1000 kilo car to a 1600+ kilo car, this is not something you want to encounter the first time.

[bharanidharang]

Originally Posted by bblost

Then disengaged the hand brake and move to neutral. The car lurched a little forward and settled down on the road.
.

THanks BBlost for your PSA.

A bit confused here. You disengaged the handbrake after the car was lifted to maybe rotate the wheel as well as move to neutral. Am I understanding this correctly?

How did it lurch forward? Is this something which happens for auto transmissions. I am a layman in the automatic transmission world (A manual guy all my life).

[bblost]

Originally Posted by bharanidharang

You disengaged the handbrake after the car was lifted to maybe rotate the wheel as well as move to neutral. Am I understanding this correct ?

Correct.
Since something must have been stuck in the wheel / brakes area.

How did it lurch forward ?

The road was at an incline. Also this is a very heavy car compared to my old one. So I totally misjudged in assuming that the incline was safe.

I am a layman in the automatic transmission world (A manual guy all my life)

This has that electric parking brake. Its binary in the application unlike the old style mechanical where you can easily control how slowly the brake must release.

[bharanidharang]

Originally Posted by bblost

The road was at an incline. Also this is a very heavy car compared to my old one. So I totally misjudged in assuming that the incline was safe.
This has that electric parking brake. Its binary in the application unlike the old style mechanical where you can easily control how slowly the brake must release.

Good God. Thankfully you did not have a run away car

My biggest worry with the modern parking brake is what you pointed out, we had the flexibility on manual ones on how much to release. Binary ones are scary in some situations.

[MyLife_MyCar]

Originally Posted by bblost

Then disengaged the hand brake and move to neutral. The car lurched a little forward and settled down on the road.

Thanks for sharing. And this part is scary
Did the car roll down? How did you manage to stop it?

Originally Posted by trakesht

Also, how tough is to maintain abyss black?

Originally Posted by MyLife_MyCar

Oh boy, black color demands a lot of pampering. Just one day of dust is enough to turn the black car brown.

Adding to maintaining a black car
As I said my neighborhood is dusty, this is the condition of car over after 3-4 days:




And after a thorough cleaning (it lasts only a day):





P.S.: here's a pic of a wall in the parking

[bblost]

Originally Posted by bharanidharang

Good God. Thankfully you did not have a run away car

That is a very scary possibility.

Originally Posted by MyLife_MyCar

Did the car roll down? How did you manage to stop it?

I was sitting inside it as I needed to shift to "N" and release the parking brake. So I stamped the brake pedal. I strongly recommend that everyone figure out how to manage these situations under controlled circumstances.

[gpagedar]

Originally Posted by MyLife_MyCar

And after a thorough cleaning (it lasts only a day):
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Looks squeaky clean!!
I need to get my Starry Night cleaned up too. Looks very dusty after the road trip.