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Old 7th June 2024, 20:08   #3076
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Re: Toyota Innova Hycross Review

Today I saw a blacked-out hycross with a Modellista body kit and it looked smashing , but it does affect ground clearance.
Similar to what is shown here
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Old 7th June 2024, 22:18   #3077
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Are you sure? I have to ask the kids to put-on the seat belts every time or the alarm would go off. Will double check.
I am 100% sure. The front 2 seats have weight sensors. The rest of the them only sound the alarm if you put the seatbelt on and then take them off.

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My Hycross ZX(O) has just crossed 4,000 KMS. I've noticed a few issues recently and I'm unsure if they are normal:

1. Engine Noise: The petrol engine sounds like a diesel engine, even at idle. The noise doubles when the radiator fan starts.
2. Shaking in 'P' Mode: When the engine is on and the lever is in 'P', the vehicle sometimes shakes as if it's trying to move.
3. Apple CarPlay Connection: When the car is started using the mobile app, Apple CarPlay doesn't connect until the engine is switched off and restarted.
4. Noise When Shifting Gears: There's a noticeable sound from the bonnet when shifting from 'P' to 'R' or 'D', especially in EV mode. It sounds like a motor working to move the gear.

1. The Hycross doesn't idle. When the engine turns on, it immediately revs up and starts charging the battery which can be surprisingly noisy. Once its done, it turns off.
The engine is kinda noisy overall but then again this is a 2L engine making 150-170hp without using any turbo charging so I don't mind that it is tuned more for power and mileage than refinement.

The engine noise while accelerating does go down slightly after the first oil change.

2. That is because it is trying to move! There is no actual neutral gear or clutch in toyota hybrids. The engine and the electric motors are always connected to each other and the wheels. So a little bit of torque will be sent to the wheels whenever the engine is running. Don't worry, the parking cog won't let the wheel move. Since the engine can't spin the wheel, it will just spin MG1 (motor generator 1) really fast which will generate power to charge the battery.

I also think the car automatically applies brakes as well whenever the engine with gear lever in Park (Unconfirmed). I can faintly hear what sounds like the brakes engaging whenever the engine starts and disengaging after the engine turns off. This happens even with electric parking brake turned off.


3. Hold down the speaking button on the steering after car is ready to drive and you should be able to manually choose from a list of your devices.

4. That is either the sound of the electric parking brake disengaging or the sound of the parking cog disengaging. Despite the traditional looks, the gear lever is actually just a joystick. They just gave us a functional lever instead of a Ring or Buttons like some other manufacturers do to highlight it.

When you put the car in park, the car's computer checks if the vehicle is in motion and then whirrs a parking cog into place. It then takes it out when you shift out of P.
What we have here is Park By Wire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift-...e#Park_by_wire

I actually kinda like all the mechanical sounds the car makes but I understand it some people might not like it.

I hope that answers all your queries
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Old 8th June 2024, 09:01   #3078
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I hope that answers all your queries
Absolutely your response is helpful. Thanks a lot for your detailed answers with the reasons which reduced my worries.
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Hi all. I did the PDI of my new Hycross ZX O today. I used the PDI guide shared on the forum (many thanks for the detailed guide).

Found a few deviations from what is mentioned in the guide.
1. The front right tyre had a different manufacturing week than the other 3. The difference was only 3 weeks though. Also, the spare tyre was of a different make (Bridgestone) compared to the ones on the wheels (Goodyear).
2. The rear right window glass had a different code (CD) vs all the others (CE).

Two small paint scratches on the bonnet aside, the car seems to be in perfect condition. No dents, or signs of repainting. The vehicle is a May 2024 manufacture as confirmed with the VIN.

Are either of these serious red flags?
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Old 8th June 2024, 18:23   #3080
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Found a few deviations from what is mentioned in the guide.
1. The front right tyre had a different manufacturing week than the other 3. The difference was only 3 weeks though. Also, the spare tyre was of a different make (Bridgestone) compared to the ones on the wheels (Goodyear).
2. The rear right window glass had a different code (CD) vs all the others (CE).

Two small paint scratches on the bonnet aside, the car seems to be in perfect condition.
1. I've seen such small differences in the manufactured dates of tyres on other HyCross vehicles too. Mine (VX variant) differ by a week (1024 v/s 1124). This should be okay.

The spare wheel on my vehicle is the same make as the others (Apollo Aptera). But since the traction, handling and load/speed characteristics of this tyre is different from the main ones, I feel that driving with one on, even of a different make, temporarily is alright.

2. CD and CE distribution on my vehicle:

CD: first row left and right windows, second row left and right windows, rear windshield

CE: front windshield, first row left and right quarter glasses, second row left and right quarter glasses, third row left and right windows

3. Such minor scratches are common and often limited go the upper layers of the clear coat. They are likely caused of improper washing technique or personnel movement about the vehicle.

Your copy should be good to go.
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Old 8th June 2024, 18:46   #3081
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4. Noise When Shifting Gears: There's a noticeable sound from the bonnet when shifting from 'P' to 'R' or 'D', especially in EV mode. It sounds like a motor working to move the gear.
Ensure that the weight of the vehicle falls on the EPB before moving it to Park from R or D. Else, it would be borne by the parking pawl whose only job is to prevent the transmission from rotating. If it also bears the weight of the vehicle, premature wear or failure might warrant repairs.

To move to Park:

1. Apply brakes
2. Shift to N
3. Apply EPB and wait for it to engage
4. Release brakes
5. Reapply brakes
6. Shift to P

This ensures that the EPB bears the weight of the vehicle as per design.

See

The EPB and the pawl automatically disengage when moved away from Park.

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Re: Toyota Innova Hycross Review

The vehicle is a May 2024 manufacture as confirmed with the VIN.

Hi could you let us know how to find out the manufacturing date of the Hycross from the VIN number . Thanks in advance
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Hi could you let us know how to find out the manufacturing date of the Hycross from the VIN number
See this (ARTICLE: Find your car's date of manufacture (VIN)) post.
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Hi could you let us know how to find out the manufacturing date of the Hycross from the VIN number . Thanks in advance
The last four digits out of the VIN (21 digits in case of Toyota) will give you the Month and Year of manufacture.

Meanwhile if you want the exact date and time of when the car was manufactured, then you’ll find a sticker at the base of the windscreen on the driver’s side which will have all those details.

Edit: For those people who own the VX(O) or ZX(O) how is the variant name shown in your I-connect app ?

Is it only VX or ZX, or the entire thing with the (O) at the end ?

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Hi all. I did the PDI of my new Hycross ZX O today. I used the PDI guide shared on the forum (many thanks for the detailed guide).

Found a few deviations from what is mentioned in the guide.
1. The front right tyre had a different manufacturing week than the other 3. The difference was only 3 weeks though. Also, the spare tyre was of a different make (Bridgestone) compared to the ones on the wheels (Goodyear).
2. The rear right window glass had a different code (CD) vs all the others (CE).

Two small paint scratches on the bonnet aside, the car seems to be in perfect condition. No dents, or signs of repainting. The vehicle is a May 2024 manufacture as confirmed with the VIN.

Are either of these serious red flags?
To me none of these appear large enough issues to change any decision. They do not appear Red Flags based on these points.
A recent manufacture month (May-2024 as mentioned) is an important data point here.
The only aspect I would consider is: See if the paint scratches are deep/ light/ swirl marks and removal through rubbing/ polish. Since I have not seen these, cannot comment, but if they are minor or can be fixed through polish/ rubbing, I would go ahead in this situation.

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Edit: For those people who own the VX(O) or ZX(O) how is the variant name shown in your I-connect app ?

Is it only VX or ZX, or the entire thing with the (O) at the end ?
Car model year followed by car model name ending with ZX but without the (O) at the end.
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Re: Toyota Innova Hycross Review

Today, when I went to my Toyota ASC for submitting the required documents for insurance claim, I've seen a Hycross VX Hybrid with white plate doing 90k Kms on the odo within a year of purchase, which is surprising considering that the car has launched in 2023.

Forgot taking a pic of the odo as I was busy with our vehicle's work.

Also, my service advisor mentioned that he have seen Hycross doing 60-70k Kms on the odo within a year of purchase.

Coming to our Hycross, will get to know by Monday regarding what should be replaced or not.
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The first time, the car didn't start (I don't know the details since Dad faced the issue). I think it was a 12v battery, since Toyota folk connected another battery to the 12v battery and started the car. My dad drove the car for a few km to charge the battery, and everything was fine.
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Hi Sameer

I have faced the exact issue. You need to get the 12V battery replaced with a new one (Amaron I presume).

I have detailed my experience in post number 2963 in this thread.
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A recent manufacture month (May-2024 as mentioned) is an important data point here.
The only aspect I would consider is: See if the paint scratches are deep/ light/ swirl marks and removal through rubbing/ polish.
Thank you @Cresterk, @dearchichi, and @subbarp for your inputs so far.

@subbarp - The paint scratches are fairly light. The dealer assures me that they can be buffed out and I am inclined to agree given the relatively shallow nature of the scratches.

As @CEF_Beasts mentioned, the sticker has a date of manufacturing of 28th May 2024.

I have given the go ahead for the registration - hoping to get delivery in the second half of the coming week.
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Greetings everyone,

I have had the pleasure of owning a September 2023 Innova Hycross VX (a buying and initial ownership experience post I'm intending to post really soon), and I have recently run into an issue with the car.

There was a minor metal to metal clinking sound audible when the car moved from standstill. Initially I did not pay much attention to this, but then the sound became more intense and frequent. It started to sound like something is going to fall from beneath the car below the hood.

The car was due to for its first annual service as it had run about 10,200 km. I thought this would be a good time to get the car serviced and simultaneously checked for this issue. The servicing went smoothly however the issue was diagnosed by the service team at Lakozy Toyota at Mumbai. They identified the issue to be a faulty axle and for which they need to replace the entire driveshaft assembly. Its now been about two weeks since they have identified the issue and ordered the parts but still there is no information on the availability of the parts at Toyota. The service advisor has been telling me that the parts are not available in either of Toyota warehouses ie. Pune and Bengaluru. He tells me it is safe to drive the car till the parts arrive and that it would not affect the car negatively in any way whatsoever. However, Im not willing to risk it. I'm also made aware to the fact that there are a couple other Innova Hycross also waiting at their workshop for this same particular replacement.

This car was being used by my father as his daily driver, and him being a senior citizen with a healthy body finds it difficult to move in and out of any other car that we own. The Innova is absolutely ideal for him in terms of ingress and egress essentially causing major inconvenience to him.

This has made me question a few things...

1. Faulty driveshaft on a new "Toyota", essentially known for their bulletproof reliability. And its not even a one off, apparently there are other cars too facing the same issue.

2. How do they not have parts available for a car they are selling in good numbers. They are not even able to provide an ETA for the availability for the parts.

3. This also makes me question the long term reliability of the car seeing it run into trouble so early in its life.

Has anyone else on this forum also faced this issue or is dealing with the same?
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