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Old 17th May 2024, 06:24   #3001
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Fuel Efficiency I got for a Trip that includes 40% City & 60% Highway Driving. Car was driven at 110-120 kmph. 4 passengers on board with Mild Luggage.

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Car performance is very good, it feels effortless to drive once you know how to modulate throttle. Many people have complained that Hycross is underpowered, these are mainly from those who have driven a manual car. Once you get used to driving a CVT, you'll like it more and more. It'll make you learn how to match revs and give minimal throttle input and gain speed. Today, it was cloudy and humid, AC performance was excellent.
I totally agree with you. After owning Mitsubishi Outlander for 5 years I can say you need to adjust your driving style to the CVT of performance and efficiency.

I too have booked Hycross GX(O) and awaiting delivery, have read only positives reviews on the TNGA engine (Dynamic force engine which Toyota calls it). Looking forward for more on your driving experience on the Hycross non-Hybrid.

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Old 17th May 2024, 11:10   #3002
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It absolutely is, during my TD it applied sudden harsh break the motorists behind me barely missed us, the thing is our roads aren’t predictable anything can come at you at anytime, where you might save yourself by taking a quick turn ADAS might apply full breaks which will lead to the motorists behind you bumping into you.
Additionally if it will be driven by your chauffeur it will create more confusion than helping him.
Thank you for sharing your experience

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ZXO owner here. You should get the ZX. New technology scares paid drivers and you will have to listen to them whine and complain every chance they get. In case of any mishap, he will always blame the ADAS.

That being said, I'm pretty happy with the ADAS of the hycross bar a few small things. It's not very intrusive and you can turn each of them off selectively.

Only thing that is annoying is lane keep assist. Some roads near my home are very narrow but with markings and the system sometimes tries to drag me back into my lane unnecessarily. You can turn it off but it will turn back on every time you restart the car.
Appreciate the response. After all the opinions and experiences shared, ZX seems to be the better choice for me. Manufacturers should understand road conditions here and let ADAS functions stay disabled if disabled once. I believe Hyundai is doing it now. Hopefully, the rest will follow as well. Thank you very much for all the responses

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That being said, I'm pretty happy with the ADAS of the hycross bar a few small things. It's not very intrusive and you can turn each of them off selectively.
When you say you can turn each of them off, do they stay off or do you have to turn them off every time you start the car?

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Old 17th May 2024, 15:34   #3004
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Looking for advice on ZX vs ZX(O). I have a ZX(O) order placed but am considering changing to ZX.
Just go for ZX(O). ADAS features in Hycross are predictable & wonderful, as name suggest they assist you in every day's driving. I did not find any particular features till now which are too intrusive.

Lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, all are very very helpful. Please don't be paranoid about ADAS features, based on reviews and opinions. Once you experience the features, you would understand the most favorable use of each features (and limitations).
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Just go for ZX(O). ADAS features in Hycross are predictable & wonderful, as name suggest they assist you in every day's driving. I did not find any particular features till now which are too intrusive.

Lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, all are very very helpful. Please don't be paranoid about ADAS features, based on reviews and opinions. Once you experience the features, you would understand the most favorable use of each features (and limitations).
Totally agree with this! The price difference between the two is too small to miss out on all that modern gadgetry. I love the rear cross traffic alert system, especially when you are reversing out of a parking lot onto a busy road and don’t have a spotter. Even the adaptive cruise control works well if you drive on smooth highways.

Best part is, the Hycross doesn’t have that autonomous braking system, which eliminates the primary negative of ADAS systems. I still remember, the Tucson that I test drove had a dented tail gate because someone rear ended it when the car stopped suddenly.

The only minor annoyance is the lane keeping assist, because it sometimes resists intentional lane changes as well. However, it bothers you only for the first 50-100 KM, after which you learn to adjust your driving style.


Meanwhile, also sharing a few updates. My car has crossed the 3500 mark, including a trip to Uttarakhand. The car performs superbly on long journeys. You are at your destination before you know it.

-I did feel though that the car is a little stressed when climbing hills. It starts to groan. I’m no expert but I think that’s ordinary CVT behaviour because I’ve noticed it in my Aunt’s 2021 Honda CRV Hybrid (In the UK) as well.

-At speeds over 80 KM/H, you notice a slight wind whistle from the right hand side.

-When you are on the middle row of seats and reclined, the AC vent for the third row is right above your head and it freezes your brain.

Another annoyance: the car has a tendency to collect debris and leaves in its front bumper:

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A random click from the Trip:

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Best part is, the Hycross doesn’t have that autonomous braking system, which eliminates the primary negative of ADAS systems. I still remember, the Tucson that I test drove had a dented tail gate because someone rear ended it when the car stopped suddenly.
Are you sure about this? Everywhere I read, it says it has AEB (Automatic Emergency Braking)
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Are you sure about this? Everywhere I read, it says it has AEB (Automatic Emergency Braking)
Can you share any link/article that says so? I checked Autocar India, and they haven’t listed AEB as one of the features. I do remember, once there was an emergency braking situation, but the car didn’t brake on its own at all. I just heard an audible warning, but there was no braking assistance.


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Can you share any link/article that says so? I checked Autocar India, and they haven’t listed AEB as one of the features. I do remember, once there was an emergency braking situation, but the car didn’t brake on its own at all. I just heard an audible warning, but there was no braking assistance.

Happy to be corrected though.
Here is a screenshot from the brochure explaining the Pre Collision System in the bottom. And a link from Autocar India

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...20india-426442
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I got a call today saying a GX O is in stock.
Anyone interested please call Nandi Toyota Banaswadi , Bangalore
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I got a call today saying a GX O is in stock.
Anyone interested please call Nandi Toyota Banaswadi , Bangalore
It must be GXO 8 seater, no dealership has GXO 7 seater allocated yet as per my SA from Ravindu Toyota, even Ravindu has 8 seater ready.
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Here is a screenshot from the brochure explaining the Pre Collision System in the bottom. And a link from Autocar India
I believe there is only pre collision warning in HyCross, haven’t encountered automatic braking yet.

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Please see the appropriate content from Toyota India site, it does not mention about automatic braking.
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Please see the appropriate content from Toyota India site, it does not mention about automatic breaking.
No apologies needed. Enjoying the Sunday morning discussion. The info is vague about the braking part. But a gentleman above has mentioned that he encountered sudden braking during a test drive. A friend who has the ZX(O) also mentioned of his experience once. So, I don't know what to believe anymore
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No apologies needed. Enjoying the Sunday morning discussion. The info is vague about the braking part. But a gentleman above has mentioned that he encountered sudden braking during a test drive. A friend who has the ZX(O) also mentioned of his experience once. So, I don't know what to believe anymore
Have completed 28,000 kms on my HyCross. Have encountered the warning multiple times, it disappears in a flash from dash. But, yet to experience the emergency braking though.

Looks like the automatic braking happens only in high risk conditions, below is from the manual.
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Have completed 28,000 kms on my HyCross. Have encountered the warning multiple times, it disappears in a flash from dash. But, yet to experience the emergency breaking though
Then I'll take your word for it. Do you have to turn the lane assist off everytime you start the car if you don't want it? Or does it stay off if you turn it off once?

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Then I'll take your word for it. Do you have to turn the lane assist off everytime you start the car if you don't want it? Or does it stay off if you turn it off once?
Have edited earlier post. It breaks in case possibility of collision is extremely high.


Yes, need to turn off lane assist with every start

I do not think I am using any of the ADAS features. The acceleration and deceleration is not suiting my style of driving in case of the adaptive cruise control. Lane assist can be annoying. Only feature being permanently active seems to be the auto head lamps.

But, the cost difference is not significant and the features are not available as an add on for later
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