[RROD]

Originally Posted by manofinfinity

As a Hycross owner myself, I felt the driving position to be very hatchback compared to the commanding position you ….

Thank you sir .
Do you own Petrol or Hybrid ?
If petrol/hybrid what mileage numbers do you get in citi/highway driving conditions.

[manofinfinity]

Originally Posted by RROD

Thank you sir .
Do you own Petrol or Hybrid ?
If petrol/hybrid what mileage numbers do you get in citi/highway driving conditions.

I have Hybrid VX bought in March 23, in my one year of usage in the city we have got around 15-20 and on the highway around 20-23.
Mileage is actually very good for its size on a full tank you can expect around 800kms of range.

[mirashub]

I took delivery of my Toyota Hycross VX in October 23 and have driven about 5000 trouble free miles - except for one aspect. The front suspension makes a loud drum like sound when I drive over a 'sharp' (meaning low radius) speed breaker. This problem was noticed within a few days a taking delivery and reported to the authorised workshop. A 'master technician' was sent out with me and I demonstrated the unusual sound. He claimed that this is a common issue with Hycross vehicles. Subsequently, at the 1000km point I again reported the issue but was told it is normal.

To me it appears as if the shock absorber or some suspension part is loose, probably on the drivers side.

There is no other related issue in acceleration, steering or braking. But this loud sound is really bugging me. I've owned 3 Innovas earlier since 2005, none of those cars exhibited this loud, unusual and uncomfortable sound from the suspension.

Has any other Hycross owner noticed this sort of unusual noise from their car? And if so, was it fixed; what turned out to be the problem? - Thanks

[hummer]

Originally Posted by RROD

My choice - My heart is on the Hycross. Better half says it is too big for us, Carens is enough. My brain also says Hycross is a better option. Carens is a VFM though

Looking forward to hear expert opinions to help with the decision.

I was also in the same boat, finally booked the Hycross GX(O) 7 STR after detailed analysis on my own use case, comparisons with XUV7OO, Harrier/Safari, Alcazar, Carens etc.

Of course petrol mileage of Hycross in city would be ~10kmpl, highways ~14kmpl, which is not bad for the sheer size and power of the car. I work from home most of the days and have a smaller car for city drives. My long drives would be less than 10k kms / year, so needed a comfortable cruiser, though I needed a 5 seater, Hycross makes an irresistible choice.

Since I am going to keep it for 10 years, I don't worry about resale, moreover with the EV onslaught, resale of any ICE car would be unpredictable. Paying 7L more for Hybrid doesn't make sense for my case.

The only confusion now is talk of GST reduction on Hybrids, which makes it a sweet deal, but we don't know if/when it will happen.

[RROD]

Originally Posted by hummer

I was also in the same boat, finally booked the Hycross GX(O) 7 STR after detailed analysis on my own use case, comparisons with XUV7OO, Harrier/Safari, Alcazar, Carens etc.

Of course petrol mileage of Hycross in city would be ~10kmpl, highways ~14kmpl, which is not bad for the sheer size and power of the car. I work from home most of the days and have a smaller car for city drives. My long drives would be less than 10k kms / year, so needed a comfortable cruiser, though I needed a 5 seater, Hycross makes an irresistible choice.

Since I am going to keep it for 10 years, I don't worry about resale, moreover with the EV onslaught, resale of any ICE car would be unpredictable. Paying 7L more for Hybrid doesn't make sense for my case.

The only confusion now is talk of GST reduction on Hybrids, which makes it a sweet deal, but we don't know if/when it will happen.

Thank you sir.
Test drove the Hycross Petrol for around 30 KMs in the city, and came away surprised as to how easy the car is to drive in the city.
Very impressed with it.

Test drove the XUV 700 as well, did a good 40 KMs including a highway run.

My dad was with me for both the test drives, his verdict was the Hycross.

Here is my take on this.
If I wasn't TD'ing the Hycross, I would have come away mighty impressed with XUV 700 and I still am. Considering the gizmo's it comes with for a similar price tag, you cannot argue the VFM of the XUV 700 vis-a-vis the Hycross.

After the TD, I asked my dad, which car he preferred. He mentioned Hycross, and I couldn't agree more.
The cruise control missing on the GX O could be a bummer, but I think I can live without it, as I use it probably only for about 1% or 2% of my driving time.

Also did the SA mention what is the on-road price of GX O ?

[Cresterk]

Originally Posted by RROD

I was told by SA, that the GX O variant On-Road price around 27.5 lakhs. This sounds like a good option.
Just wondering what would be the resale value of a Hycross Petrol car.
Or would you guys say, I am better off with a full loaded Carens.
Here is my primary ask.

* Lots of space. - We are a family of four. My kids loves to pack everything for the trip. We run out of space quickly. I currently use an overhead bag to provide the additional space and has been serving well.

Hycross is more spacious and more planted and comes with the resale + reliability of a Toyota. Also it's a question of 115 hp vs 170 hp

Originally Posted by mirashub

I took delivery of my Toyota Hycross VX in October 23 and have driven about 5000 trouble free miles - except for one aspect. The front suspension makes a loud drum like sound when I drive over a 'sharp' (meaning low radius) speed breaker. This problem was noticed within a few days a taking delivery and reported to the authorised workshop. A 'master technician' was sent out with me and I demonstrated the unusual sound. He claimed that this is a common issue with Hycross vehicles.

This is not normal. I have no sounds at all no matter whether I go slow or fast over any kind of potholes, speedbreakers or broken roads except for a creaking sound coming from the center armrest plastic. Please post a video of it if possible.

[sanketdesai82]

Originally Posted by Cresterk

Anyone renewed their insurance for the 2nd year from Toyota?
Any insight would be appreciated.

I recently renewed my insurance and I went ahead with Tata AIG from outside. Toyota folks were trying to match what I had got from outside to a certain extend however the quote from ICICI which was my original insurer was still coming to 65k+.

When I took my car I was literally blackmailed into taking the costly insurance from the showroom but this time around I wasn’t going to be pushed around.

[NGM]

Is there anyone on this forum who is still in wait mode after 12 months for a Hybrid VX 8 seater model?

My dealer who is new with Toyota in Trivandrum says I have to show more "patience" if I need a Toyota. When I booked in May 2023 I was told that am in waiting list 03 for this dealer for the needed version. April 2024 allocations are done and still in WL.

"Patience Redefined"

[hummer]

Originally Posted by RROD

After the TD, I asked my dad, which car he preferred. He mentioned Hycross, and I couldn't agree more.
The cruise control missing on the GX O could be a bummer, but I think I can live without it, as I use it probably only for about 1% or 2% of my driving time.

Also did the SA mention what is the on-road price of GX O ?

Your dad is right, Hycross fits the bill perfectly

Petrol Hycross won't fail badly on resale as anticipated (it's a Toyota). If not Hycross, I would have bought XUV7OO diesel AT, which gives similar mileage ~10kmpl in city and ~14kmpl on highways, so the fuel expenses are more or less similar, but XUV diesel comes with a fear of diesel cars ban in Bengaluru and DPF issues, so I feel resale value of petrol Hycross would be better than XUV diesel.

I hardly use the cruise control in my Duster, I love to control my acceleration, so not having CC is not a concern for me.

GX(O) pricing is not announced yet, SA says it could be 1-1.5L premium over GX.

[dearchichi]

Hello.

I planned to purchase an Innova Hycross VX 8-seater and booked the pearl white shade in November 2023 at Ravindu Toyota (Rajajinagar), Bangalore, with a promised delivery in March 2024. However, I was not allocated a vehicle in either the March (no specific reason given) or April (due to the dealership apparently being allotted fewer vehicles by Toyota) allocation cycles.

After expressing my disappointment, the "Senior Manager - Guest Experience" arranged for the variant the following day (and within two days of the April allotment cycle). I was informed that the vehicle was originally intended for dispatch to North India but was diverted to this dealership at their request. The shade is Blackish Ageha, and since I found it acceptable, I decided to proceed with the purchase. I had previously insisted on a pre-registration PDI before making any payment beyond the initial booking amount.

I completed the PDI last evening at the dealership using the checklist (ARTICLE: Pre-delivery Inspection (PDI) & Check List) compiled by prashantsoni23 (thank you Prashant). A quick summary follows:

1. The VIN ends with 0324, indicating that the vehicle was manufactured in March, 2024.

2. The odometer read "11km".

3. A few minor "scratches" were present on the body and the plastics indoors which largely disappear on rubbing/buffing. No dents or dings otherwise on the body panels or alloys. The windows too appeared defect-free.

4. The doors opened and closed as expected. Their rubber seals, and the corresponding ones on the frame, showed no evidence of cracks.

5. All seat adjustments worked as expected, and so did the buckling-unbuckling of seat belts. The headliner was clean, evenly shaded and in-place all around.

6. The lids of the glove box and bottle holder in the center console opened and closed as expected.

7. The tools in the boot were in order.

8. The fuel lid had the E-20 sticker.

9. Both keys locked and unlocked the doors remotely.

10. All tyres appeared new (though I did not check the month of manufacture) with no tread wear and of the same make. While the main ones were 215/60 R17 alloys, I was surprised to discover that the spare was a smaller 205/60/R16 steel.

11. The engine bay and battery terminals were clean.

12. I did not check the wipers since I didn't want to risk damaging the windshields in case the sprayer didn't work as expected or didn't have access to enough water.

13. I could not test all of the ICE, MID and electrical functions but those I did test passed. These include headlight and indicator switches, brake lights, parking lights, reversing light, horn, the front, rear and side cameras, ICE controls for music, steering controls for the some ICE and MID functionalities, all indoor lamps, ambient lighting, AC switches in the first two rows, blower output in all three rows, all power window buttons, MID feedback on change in the shifter position (P/R/N/D/manual) and on engaging and disengaging the EPB, ORVM operations and rear and front parking sensor operations.

I would like to have some feedback on the below.

1. None of the rows had floor mats. Is this expected? (I will purchase these as an accessory.)

2. I did find heavy application of what appears to be a seam sealing compound around the heads of the suspension struts in the engine bay. Is this normal?





For reference, here is the corresponding area from a January 2023 ZX(O) variant that serves as a test drive vehicle at the dealership.





3. I could not visually locate the level of the engine oil on the dipstick (and did not physically check the stick). Is this expected? The oil is expected to be free of debris, but must it appear practically transparent?

4. Some components in the engine bay have markings on them. Is this expected?



5. But for the driver's seat, none of the others had protective plastic covers over the fabric seat covers. The ICE had a plastic sheet over it but the MID did not. Is this worrisome?

6. Later in the evening, I realized that other PDI checklists cover areas that I did not. They include headlight leveling, rear defogger, child locks, brake and power steering fluids, signs of rust of leaks in the underbody, suspension struts/arms and brake lines, tyre pressure and their corresponding TPMS values, USB and 12V ports, Android Auto, MID display with corresponding to drive modes, steering adjustments, screen defects (dead pixels flicker etc.), battery make and model and paint thickness *The car has been driven their yard. Should I ask for it to be driven back to the dealership for another pass to check for the above?

7. Is there anything else I'm missing from the perspective of the PDI?

Thank you for your comments.

I would also like to thank gladiatort1000 for his time and advice a day before the PDI. He had purchased a VX variant from the same dealership, and the context, contacts and details shared by him were very helpful.

[Sanidhya mukund]

Have crossed 1500 KM on the odo. Here are a few observations from my experience as a driver and a passenger in all three rows:

1. Eventhough it is a very large vehicle, it is very easy to drive. The turning radius isn’t very large, the steering is light and the driving aids such as the sensors and the camera make it a breeze to drive even in the city.

2. The driving seat, when set to its highest position gives you a very commanding view of the road. Almost like the erstwhile Tata Safari Storme.

3. The calf support extensions in the middle row may not be practical for a fully stretched out recliner experience, but they do prove to be very helpful in avoiding muscle fatigue even when partially raised on long journeys.

4. Needless to say, the fuel economy is excellent for such a large petrol vehicle. However, I’ve noticed that it is quite sensitive to throttle inputs. A heavy right foot can lead to a 3-4 KM/L drop in fuel economy. My FE range has been 15-18.5.

5. The third row is decent for people of average height, but only if the seat is fully reclined. If you make it upright in the interest of luggage space, it becomes quite uncomfortable. I find the third row experience to be quite similar to the erstwhile Crysta. Some areas in the third row however, such as the mobile phone holder are horrendously finished. The plastic looks like it was cut by a 9 year old using a hacksaw blade.

6. There are no niggles/sqeaks/rattles to report yet. The Apple CarPlay works very smoothly with my age old iPhone XR and new 15 Pro Max without any random disconnections.

7. The sunroof sunshade is of good quality and effectively blocks out sunlight. Even the rear sunshades are tremendously helpful for those who are susceptible to migraines.

8. The dual zone AC, multiple fan speed adjustments and the option to open/close AC vents on all the rows makes it very easy to find your ideal cabin temperature. The AC is quite effective just like the old Innovas.

9. The lane keeping assist is annoying at times, especially when you want to change lanes and it resists.

10. I sorely miss backlighting on the sunroof controls. There are separate buttons for the sunshade and the sunroof. There are also multiple other buttons in that region. In the dark, you will find yourself taking your eyes off the road if you want to open/close the sunroof/sunshade while on the move.

11. Enough has been said about the headlights already, but I would like to emphatically state that they are absolute garbage. Such lights have no business being on a 36 lakh rupee car, let alone an MPV that is expected to see so much highway action!

12. Eventhough the car is quick and can attain triple digit speeds really effortlessly, the CVT gearbox makes the engine whine whenever you plant your foot. Didn’t notice an appreciable difference on throttle response between the three driving modes.

13. The NVH levels are otherwise quite satisfactory. Very little road noise creeps in and the engine is usually very quiet when the car is being driven sedately. Even at idle, when the car is not in EV mode, the engine doesn’t make much of a racket.

14. Since it always starts in EV mode, temporary chauffeurs and valet drivers sometimes have a hard time understanding that the car has started. On at least two instances, I’ve had confused people coming up to me to tell me that my car isn’t turning on!

15. The fit and finish on the outside isn’t great. The bonnet feels extremely hollow when tapped and some of the fixtures creak when pressed.

16. Short occupants in the middle row have a hard time getting a view of the road ahead due to the fact that the front seats are placed very high thanks to the battery under them.

17. The ride quality is really good. Passengers won’t be tossed about even on broken roads and the straight line stability is just like an Innova. There is none of that annoying floaty sensation that some tall vehicles inherently have.

18. I’m no audiophile, so the sound system is excellent in my books. At high volumes, the bass makes the IRVM shake.

Overall, I’m quite happy with my purchase. For a vehicle that is chauffeur driven 80 percent of the time, it is an excellent choice. Easy to drive, comfortable to travel in, loaded with tech, reliable and durable, spacious and practical and easy on the pocket. The only major flaw in my view is the weak headlight throw, but the other flaws are just minor irritants in an otherwise excellent package.

The inner side of the door handles are quite susceptible to getting scratches. Got them PPF’d. Also had them cover the shiny surface of both the keys as they also are quite prone to scratching.

[hiteshuppal]

Hi - Does anyone else also notice a strange fan noise? Even if AC is turned off it comes. I have Zxo. Drove 900+ kms

[Cresterk]

Originally Posted by NGM

Is there anyone on this forum who is still in wait mode after 12 months for a Hybrid VX 8 seater model?

My dealer who is new with Toyota in Trivandrum says I have to show more "patience" if I need a Toyota. When I booked in May 2023 I was told that am in waiting list 03 for this dealer for the needed version. April 2024 allocations are done and still in WL.

"Patience Redefined"

Weird. The VX does not have a long waiting period and it seems they are just giving you the run around. If you are okay with taking delivery from Nippon Toyota, Thrissur, I can share the number of the salesman that I purchased my ZX(o) from.

Originally Posted by Sanidhya mukund

12. Eventhough the car is quick and can attain triple digit speeds really effortlessly, the CVT gearbox makes the engine whine whenever you plant your foot. Didn’t notice an appreciable difference on throttle response between the three driving modes.

Give it a while for the car to learn your driving style. There is a massive difference between ECO and Power mode.

The Hyrbid doesn't have the CVT gearbox. No belts or pulleys here, just a power split device where the engine and electric motors split their power. The noise is coming from the engine and it goes down after the first oil change.

It also helps to accelerate with gradually increasing accelerator input rather than just shoving your foot down a fixed amount and waiting like your would with a turbo-diesel. This makes the engine rev up gradually (like in a conventional car) and it sounds more pleasant than instantly revving up a fixed amount and staying there. This sounds less like the car is stuck in first gear but it is probably not as efficient.

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Hello.

1. None of the rows had floor mats. Is this expected? (I will purchase these as an accessory.)

It's normal. I was very surprised too. The mats and mudguards need to be purchased as accessories for some reason. Felt bad at first but I guess it's clever accounting to make the ex-showroom stay below the next tax segment.

Originally Posted by hiteshuppal

Hi - Does anyone else also notice a strange fan noise? Even if AC is turned off it comes. I have Zxo. Drove 900+ kms

It's from the ventilated seats which can get pretty loud. Turn them off for both the passenger and driver seats seperately and check.

[hiteshuppal]

Originally Posted by Cresterk

Weird. The VX does not have a long waiting period and it seems they are just giving you the run around. If you are okay with taking delivery from Nippon Toyota, Thrissur, I can share the number of the salesman that I purchased my ZX(o) from.
It's from the ventilated seats which can get pretty loud. Turn them off for both the passenger and driver seats seperately and check.

I turned both of them and still could hear the sound :(

[Sanidhya mukund]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Hello.

2. I did find heavy application of what appears to be a seam sealing compound around the heads of the suspension struts in the engine bay. Is this normal?

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For reference, here is the corresponding area from a January 2023 ZX(O) variant that serves as a test drive vehicle at the dealership.

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Here are the pictures of my car’s strut mounts: