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But, the person did not understand and told me that I will get a call back from Dealership and Service Centre. I did get a call from both and was informed that they do not have any idea, so I forwarded them the images of changes made in boot on whatsapp, since then both have gone silent and I am waiting for the updates!! ![]() | |
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| Re: Mahindra Scorpio-N Review 10,000 KM Update – First Service and Uttarakhand Drive My ScorpioN has now completed 10000 km and I recently got the second service done. I drive a 4Explor Z8L Auto and will be describing my experience so far with the vehicle. The Drive So Far I have had no complaints so far from the vehicle. Mentioned earlier – I have completed 10,000 km with the vehicle after receiving the car in September 2022. This includes an equal mix of city and highway drives. The car has typical body on frame characteristics, and I feel it is excellent to drive at about 90-95 kmph. At these speeds on the highway, I have found the car to be performing at its optimum in terms of mileage and drive smoothness. Top gear hits at about 90 and the odometer stays at about 1700 RPM in 6th gear at 100 kmph. I have seen fuel economies hovering around the 15 kmpL when driving with a light foot at 90-95 kmph and around 12-12.5 in the cities. I like quick accelerations but not high speeds – and that probably is the reason why I get better economy on the highways compared to the city. The Air Conditioning is excellent and one of the best I have seen in a car. I can’t talk about the third row since that seat is hardly ever used in my car. Temperatures in Ahmedabad have started to go north of 40 degrees daily and even during that time, the car becomes cold in a couple of minutes. I keep the temperatures at 23 degrees at Auto. I am impressed by how the car feels on patchy roads and small/large potholes. They are not a challenge for this vehicle. You don’t feel unsettled when doing 70 kmph+ when on patchy roads, small road bumps, and even small to medium potholes. The damping works well too, and you can kind of feel that it works a little too much. Here are a few things that could have been better: a) The bottle holders: I have had the car for 6 months now and I still can’t get a hang on how to find these bottle holders in the car without scratching my hand on the door insides. Very poor design. b) Flat boot space: I have seen the flat boot space in the newer cars, and it looks better than my model. c) Power socket: There is no 12V power socket in front. I bought an extender in case I want to use the air compressor for front tires. d) Odd tire size: Almost no options if you wish to stay at the current tire size and wish to change to an AT. e) Poor departure angle: A lot has been discussed here and I would add to that. You must be super careful with the rear of the car when on tough terrain. Dealership and Service When I bought the car, I was skeptical about Mahindra – heard too many horror stories from YouTubers and elsewhere. My experience so far has been good and excellent. I had a pleasant sales experience and have had several conversations with the dealership after sales. My service experience was excellent too and I paid about INR 3500 for the service. Second key assignment took a while but all tasks during the service were completed carefully with attention to detail. Car was cleaned and delivered post service. Long Mountain Drive I took the car last December to Uttarakhand. Unfortunately, 2022 did not see snow even in the higher reaches of the Himalayas, and I could not test the car in snow. But I enjoyed driving the car. The climbs are nothing for the engine and there is enough torque available even if you wish to overtake when on a climb. The automatic gearbox is no DSG but is quick and smooth. Since the 4Explore always stays in the Zoom mode, the gearshifts happen at 2000 RPM. Downhills, the car could do with more engine braking in lower gears. I found that the car keeps speeding even though very slightly when downhill and you have to slow it down using the brakes or shifting manually to a lower gear. I got an average of 10.5 kmpL (Rishikesh – Ukhimath – Chopta – Joshimath – Tapovan - Rishikesh) whereas my overall trip mileage was around 15 kmpL for my drive from Ahmedabad. Passengers were extremely comfortable during the journey. I did remove the rear seats to pack luggage for the trip. At Joshimath, the early morning temperatures were subzero and the car started in one crank. Despite the shortcomings which are too glaring IMO, and should not be present in this car, I think I love the vehicle. I like the road presence and everyday after parking it in office, I do turn back and look back at it. |
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| Re: Mahindra Scorpio-N Review Has anyone changed to AT Tyres for Z8 4X4 Manual? If yes, what are the options available with prices that you may have seen. Also, Facebook groups have mentioned cost of 17 inch alloys to be as low as 10000/- each whereas Dealer is quoting 68000/- for four. Any heads up on this will be appreciated. I am from Kolkata. Thanks in advance. |
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| Re: Mahindra Scorpio-N Review Reposting in this forum {Mods may take appropriate action in case of violation of guidelines} Can someone shed light on the current warranty being offered on the Scorpio-N? And under what circumstances should one subscribe to the same? TIA |
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| Re: Mahindra Scorpio-N Review I am trying to decide between Z6 D AT and Z8 D AT. In Z8, I like all the features except leather seats; I prefer fabric seats for the comfort they offer. Z6 works for me in most cases except the hard plastics on side panel and dash. I also like the idea of this variant being VFM. The primary differences (that matter to me) are - Fabric seats, Leather side panels, Rear camera, Chrome elements on the front grill, LED head/tail lamps, DRLs and LED fog lamps, alloy wheels Q1) How much of a difference does leather vs. fabric make for comfort? Please consider both city driving and long journeys on highways. Also, consider summer heat vs. the rest of seasons. Q2) How much of a difference does the hard plastic make? I believe that is irreplaceable as opposed to other aspects of Z6 (that can be replaced/added) like steel wheels, rear camera, etc Q3) How much of a difference do alloys make for wheels? Is it basically a look and feel factor or does it help otherwise? |
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| Re: Mahindra Scorpio-N Review Please help me decide between AT and MT for Scorpio N diesel. This is especially directed at Bangalore folks who struggle through traffic for city commute. Q1) How much of a difference has an AT made to your city commutes? Q2) Would it become too boring to drive an AT once you hit highways? Q3) Did you ever get the feeling that you are missing an MT and that opportunity is gone forever (assuming I can afford only 1 car)? |
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I would suggest Z8. You can have some jugad for the seat comfort, like breathable addons as battery operated ventilation, memory foam cushion etc. You will not have to worry about anything apart from front sensors and camera. From all visual and lighting miss in z6, two crucial downgrades are auto AC and airbags. These things can't be retrofitted. I had booking for both and have now only Z6 which I wish was otherwise. BTW, take AT considering city usecase. |
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I reached out to my dealership and I am lucky to have a service station that is knowledgable and actually listens to the customer. It took them less than a minute to find the part and it was immediately ordered by the dealership. Although I will have to pay for it (around 3000/-) I feel this will be a much needed upgrade for the boot management and will allow me to carry extra tools that I always have in my car without them dangling with the luggage. Below is the part number that you can show to Mahindra for ordering this for your car. | |||
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I have asked for the foam cover of the speakers as well but that was not there in the catalogue. But the dealer has said they will keep an eye on this particular thing. |
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| Background: My 2020 Petrol S-Cross (Chetak) had been a faithful companion for the past 2.5 years, and had almost 40,000 km under his timing belt. However, his build quality was starting to show. Rattles were creeping in, and the lack of safety features was glaring in comparison to his peers: no ESC, traction control, only 2 airbags. The saving grace was the all-disc brakes setup. His suspensions had also started to degrade from the 20k mark, and 3 sets of Maruti service centers The kids were also bigger and more boisterous than before, and space was becoming tight, especially when the entire family piled into the vehicle. Despite my middle-class genes rebelling against it, and the numerous admonitions from the Maharathis on this forum to keep one's steed for as long as possible, it was clear that Chetak was running out of room. His engine was fine, and the AT was responsive enough to be able to zip through traffic, and he was just the perfect combination of size and power to be suitable for both city traffic and the highways. If the suspensions were better, and he had better safety features and AWD, we would likely have managed with the tight space and kept him till the end of his days. The Search & Selection: Since the end of the IC engine era is nigh, and diesels are heading to the chopping block first, it was decided that the next vehicle needs to be a proper SUV with a diesel mill, with 4WD for the OP to indulge his midlife crisis urge to go offroading. AT was a must, as were safety features like ESC, traction control, 6 airbags, all-disc brakes and a good NCAP rating. A good sound system was also mandatory. Started checking out the various options available. Options considered are summarized below: After a careful consideration of the above options, a few test drives, long hard look at the bank balance, and channeling my inner Rohit Shetty, the ScorpioN was selected by me unanimously. The Z8 D-AT 4WD Napoli Black was immediately booked online, with the expectation of a loooong wait, by when most of the bugs would have hopefully been ironed out. The Delivery, more painful than a C-section As luck would have it, one day yours truly received a call from Voldemort, aka the dealer who shall not be named. They had a Z8L available in Black, for immediate delivery, due to a booking cancelation. They demanded immediate payment so the car could be blocked for me. My desi fraud detector went on high alert, considering the backlog was so long that Virat Kohli has booked one for his grandkids. A call was promptly placed to my buddy at M&M, who asked me to stay put while he checked things out. The dealer kept applying his pressure tactics, and was given the below response. (Un)surprisingly he stayed put. ![]() After the vehicle was confirmed to be genuine by my buddy, I checked out the VIN and verified the vehicle was a Feb 2023 unit, and inspected it in the extremely dusty stockyard. Once again the dealer asked me to make a decision, but I insisted on a proper PDI after the vehicle was cleaned up. After their usual litany of excuses, another escalation call resulted in the shiny black version being made available for inspection. Seeing him in his glory, the name "Vader" sprung to mind, and was enthusiastically embraced by the parivar. The trusty TBHP PDI checklist was invoked, and the vehicle passed unconditionally. Thanks once again to the veterans for creating and maintaining this comprehensive guide for us non-experts. The only accessories selected were the 7D mats, mudflaps, sun shades and corner protectors. Not a chrome fan, so skipped the bling, and might in fact de-chrome some parts down the line. Now the wait began. Once the money was paid, the dealer started dragging his feet, saying some "booking adjustment" had to be made in the back end. A week went by, then another, with no updates. The n=n+1 formula started wearing thin, resulting in a call to the dealer management threatening some khaki action. This resulted in the final invoice showing up in my inbox within an hour, the registration formalities getting done in 4 days, and the car delivered at the end of the week with much pomp and ceremony. Upon closer inspection, sticky tape residue on some of the chrome, the front tires under-inflated and a poorly installed rear mud-flap (2 screws missing) was observed, resulting in another yelling session, and the vehicle was again sent off to the dealer to be fixed. Beginning of a beautiful friendship, it was not. Lets see how it goes longer term. This key is NOT included Chetak was sold off within 10 days of Vader's arrival. The dealer offered a ridiculous trade-in value, and so did Cars24. Spinny & OLX were a lot more reasonable, and the vehicle was picked up by the latter after a few days negotiation. The process was seamless and very professionally managed, and worth the loss of any potential upside from selling to an unknown individual. Initial Impressions of Vader: The kids approve of him, so I can breathe a sigh of relief. The official review (Mahindra Scorpio-N Review) is far more comprehensive, and is gratefully acknowledged. Below is what I have observed, warts and all. Exterior: The vehicle has PRESENCE. After driving crossovers, sedans and coupes all my life, it is an experience to be floating above them all. People also treat it with a lot more respect, including autorickshaw drivers, thanks to the tough looking front face. The doors, hood, handles, mirrors are all solidly constructed and reassuringly heavy, especially compared to the Maruti. Roof rails are sturdy and load bearing, as befits a vehicle in this class. Front and rear tow hook points (and tow hooks) are included and easily accessible. The engine hood is well insulated and HEAVY - hydraulic struts are missed. The headlight throw is not the best though, and will likely present a problem when driving in dark areas. No rear fog lamps. ORVMs are large and auto-fold/unfold upon locking the car/starting it up. Haven't figure out a way to do this manually in the tight situations of urban India and on narrow mountain roads. Interior: It is extremely spacious and airy on the inside, more so thanks to the large windows. The sunroof is well positioned and sized. This car doesn't need a panoramic one IMHO. The 2nd row is spacious enough for 3 adults, with more than enough legroom. Interior lamps are powerful and provide sufficient illumination. Only 1 cupholder in the front row! The front passenger will have to stay sleepy, unless (s)he is quite intimate with the driver. Storage space in the doors is reasonable, but the interior compartments are small, including the cooled glove box, which feels flimsy to the touch. The 3rd row tumbles forward easily, although the final position is TERRIBLY Designed, resulting in much wasted space. Driving: Handling is extremely easy for such a bulky vehicle. The steering is light and responsive, and there are plenty of horses available for any quick maneuvers. Haven't yet let the engine go beyond 2000 rpm, staying within 80-85 kmph. The transmission is well mated to the engine, although it does tend to stay in 4th gear for longer than I would like, even between 60-70kmph. Fuel economy is at 10kmpl so far, thanks to mostly driving on the cratered surface of LBS Road & the Eastern Crawl Highway. Features: Features are a-plenty in this behemoth, and most are thoughtfully designed. Driving & Safety: ESC, Traction Control, All-disc brakes, 6 airbags, Cruise control, hill hold & descent control. auto headlamps, rain sensing wipers, front foglamps, rear wipers. TPMS, auto start stop (is this even a feature ![]() Some more Pics: ![]() Not a fan of Mahindra (over)badging. Prefer the more understated Jeep and VAG style ![]() Welcome to the family Interior Comfort: 6-way adjustable power drivers seat with manual (sigh) lumbar adjustment, Motorized sunroof, 12 speaker music system with immersive surround and ability to localize the output for when passengers need to rest, Dual zone AC for front row, 2nd row AC with fan speed control (no temperature control), wireless charging, 2 USB points in the front and 1 USB-c point for the 2nd row, illuminated driver side window buttons The MID has a yuuuge number of options, including the ability to set the volume and tones of the various sounds, an alert window for matters that need immediate attention, multiple trip meters, real time fuel efficiency and range monitoring (have to compare against tankful method) with the ability to set it for auto-reset upon filling up and a mini navigation screen. both Have not really explored the Infotainment screen much, but don't have much to say that is positive. It has inbuilt navigation from MapmyIndia, Bluetooth audio connectivity and radio with ability to pre-program stations. Apple CarPlay is missing though, despite being advertised on the brochure. Not acceptable, Mahindra, considering how integrated our phones and their apps are into our daily lives, and when even sub-10L cars come equipped with this feature. The front camera allows capture of images real time and storing them locally, in the off chance of an accident on our ultra-safe roads. Barely enough space in the parking spot Now let's get the Number of this Beast. What is making the light saber sputter? Some points are repeated from the first post, which indicates either how strongly I feel about them, or sheer laziness and lack of proofreading ability. Design:
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Another one of my really major gripes is the car just cannot remember the drive modes that are set and keeps resetting back to Zap mode every single time you restart the car. M&M seriously needs to work on some sort of memory mode incorporation that remembers the last settings for Auto-Start-Stop and Drive modes. Other than that and the mediocre service experience at NBS Goregaon, the mHawk brothers are gems. | |||
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