[xander]

Originally Posted by msri3here

I've read people complaining about "Aggressive Creep" in 1.0 AT variants of Virtus.
They say that this means the car accelerates from 0 (idle) to 10kph very fast, which makes it difficult to manage in bumper to bumper start stop traffic.

anyone face this issue?

Yes. The same issue is there in Polo 1.0 Tsi too. It takes time to get used to.

[Sierra__foxtrot]

Originally Posted by msri3here

I've read people complaining about "Aggressive Creep" in 1.0 AT variants of Virtus.
They say that this means the car accelerates from 0 (idle) to 10kph very fast, which makes it difficult to manage in bumper to bumper start stop traffic.

anyone face this issue?

Just let the engine warm up in idle for a minute or two (once the idle RPM decreases) and the aggressive jump will be absent. I have a 1.0 gt TSI , same engine same solution.

[Sid13]

Originally Posted by EV NXT

Latest issue of ACI has this to say about the Virtus:

Is mileage a major concern for 1.0 TSI. Someone known to me who has 1.0 Taigun has started using his two-wheeler extensively in city traffic after buying the Taigun.

Even a VW SA I personally know has told me that extracting double-digit mileage out of 1.0 in city traffic conditions would be a task.

This is a major concern, I commute every day 40 KMs in Citry traffic where bumper-to-bumper traffic could be 50% and the rest would be moderate traffic probably in 3rd and 4th gear. Single digit average would be catastrophic.

Any comments from long term users please..

[CArspeed]

Originally Posted by Sid13

This is a major concern, I commute every day 40 KMs in Citry traffic where bumper-to-bumper traffic could be 50% and the rest would be moderate traffic probably in 3rd and 4th gear. Single digit average would be catastrophic.

You should understand that, it’s extremely difficult to extract mileage from any turbo charged petrol motor even on highways. If your city driving is so much and you also love the performance, hybrid particularly the Honda City is the best bet to achieve the best of both the worlds.

[Sid13]

Originally Posted by CArspeed

You should understand that, it’s extremely difficult to extract mileage from any turbo charged petrol motor even on highways. If your city driving is so much and you also love the performance, hybrid particularly the Honda City is the best bet to achieve the best of both the worlds.

Thanks for the input. However, considering the price of Hybrid and my average running of about 12K to 14K Kms per year, it would simply take too many years to see the advantage. It doesn't make economic sense. Anyway, in that sense, If I could stretch my budget I would have rather gone for the 1.5 turbo petrol manual of Taigun or Slavia, as despite beeing a larger turbo engine it delivers better mileage than 1.0

[The Rationalist]

Originally Posted by Sid13

I commute every day 40 KMs in City traffic where bumper-to-bumper traffic could be 50% and the rest would be moderate traffic probably in 3rd and 4th gear. Single digit average would be catastrophic.

If mileage is your primary concern, with your running an EV will be the only solution. I drive 60 kms a day in City and get an average of 8 km/L! But if you love driving and want a decent handler, Taigun is the answer. It's almost impossible to bring down the fuel expenses below ₹10,000/month, whichever petrol car you buy.

[Sid13]

Originally Posted by The Rationalist

If mileage is your primary concern, with your running an EV will be the only solution. I drive 60 kms a day in City and get an average of 8 km/L!.

Primary concern is not mileage its safety, durability and quality. Mileage definitely is one of the major concern. Also I was contemplating buying the virtus not taigun (I guess mileage figures are not different)

I dont think the support infrastructure is matured enough in Kerala atleast to go buy an EV. There are plenty of unknowns in EV area.

In which City do you get 8 KM/L mileage, if its Bangalore or Mumbai its understandable. If its Kochi, its difficult to accept as Kochi traffic is yet to be that bad. The lack of quality options in the segment which meet safety, durability, fit and finish quality around 15 lakhs budget is making things even more confusing.

I was thinking about the City, however basic quality issues in terms of cabin fit and finish are pulling me back.

[redcruiser]

Originally Posted by CArspeed

You should understand that, it’s extremely difficult to extract mileage from any turbo charged petrol motor even on highways. If your city driving is so much and you also love the performance, hybrid particularly the Honda City is the best bet to achieve the best of both the worlds.

During my last trip from Tirupati to Chennai I got around 14.6KM/L kind of mileage on the highways with occasional flooring the throttle.
The avg economy was around 15.5 before I entered Chennai but reduced to 14.6 eventually due to city traffic.

I am sure if you drive longer distances on the highway with very light foot and not exceeding 100km/H then you can easily get 15-16. May be more!!

[CArspeed]

Originally Posted by redcruiser

During my last trip from Tirupati to Chennai I got around 14.6KM/L kind of mileage on the highways with occasional flooring the throttle.
The avg economy was around 15.5 before I entered Chennai but reduced to 14.6 eventually due to city traffic.

I am sure if you drive longer distances on the highway with very light foot and not exceeding 100km/H then you can easily get 15-16. May be more!!

That’s exactly my point, even you drive the Virtus the way not it is supposed to be driven being a performance oriented and the best handling car, it gives you only 15 KMPH. The hybrids, even if driven a little enthusiastically would return 22-25 KMPL in highways.
But the OP drives the car more in the City rather than in the highway where the mileage in hybrid would double and coupled with that the serene feel of the battery driving the car is unmatched.

[tsi_niks1989]

Originally Posted by Sid13

This is a major concern, I commute every day 40 KMs in Citry traffic where bumper-to-bumper traffic could be 50% and the rest would be moderate traffic probably in 3rd and 4th gear. Single digit average would be catastrophic.

Any comments from long term users please..

We have driven the 1L MT Kushaq(Apr 22) for close to 10k KMs now, city efficiency has been 11-12KMPL while highway drives easily get 17-18KMPL with speeds at 90-100 and not beyond.
Since the car is capable enough for 120KMPH easily, mileage drops to 15-16 on highways if driven at that speed consistently.
Coming to our 1.5 TSI Virtus GT(Sep 22), city mileage has been 10 mostly and this is in extreme Pune city traffic. Highways have been surprisingly good, Pune-Mumbai 22-24 KMPL with 95 set at cruise. Driven with heavy foot and it gives 18KMPL along with a 2000 INR overspeed challan .

[Sid13]

Originally Posted by tsi_niks1989

We have driven the 1L MT Kushaq(Apr 22) for close to 10k KMs now, city efficiency has been 11-12KMPL while highway drives easily get 17-18KMPL with speeds at 90-100 and not beyond.
Since the car is capable enough for 120KMPH easily, mileage drops to 15-16 on highways if driven at that speed consistently.

Thanks for the valuable inputs. The mileage figures of 1.0 tsi eported by normal users as well as professional reviewers are inconsistent. May be it has to do with the extreme sensitivity turbo petrols have to driver inputs.

[IceManMK1]

Originally Posted by Sid13

Primary concern is not mileage its safety, durability and quality. Mileage definitely is one of the major concern. Also I was contemplating buying the virtus not taigun (I guess mileage figures are not different)

I dont think the support infrastructure is matured enough in Kerala atleast to go buy an EV. There are plenty of unknowns in EV area.

In which City do you get 8 KM/L mileage, if its Bangalore or Mumbai its understandable. If its Kochi, its difficult to accept as Kochi traffic is yet to be that bad. The lack of quality options in the segment which meet safety, durability, fit and finish quality around 15 lakhs budget is making things even more confusing.

The Virtus should fit all your requirements, I drive a lot in Kochi. It is not just the traffic, but the terrain variation and the overall conditions of the road. You cannot go above 4th in most parts of the city.

I am getting 7.2 Kmpl (peak traffic on civil line road) and 13-15 Kmpl (seaport-airport or NH) depending on the timings. Also amongst safety, your ground clearance plays a vital role in Kerala - so a Slavia or Virtus should have you covered too.

The comfort line AT will be the best pick if you do opt for Virtus.Take a back-to-back test drive though. You should be ultimately comfortable in the car you pick, on a bad day you can spend 2 hours in the cabin, so that experience matters a lot.

All the best.

[RaiAnish]

Originally Posted by Sid13

Thanks for the valuable inputs. The mileage figures of 1.0 tsi eported by normal users as well as professional reviewers are inconsistent. May be it has to do with the extreme sensitivity turbo petrols have to driver inputs.

Yes it's very sensitive. I have driven the Virtus for about 5000 kms in 5 months in Delhi NCR. Not regularly in bumper to bumper traffic but my mileage figures are very good. 15 km/l is not a rarity. But this is when I drive sedately. 5th gear 50 and 6th gear 60-65 kmph. So what I feel is that it has got best of both worlds - push it and enjoy at the expense of mileage but if you can drive sedately, I'm sure it won't disappoint. My fuel expenses haven't really increased much upgrading from Baleno 2015.

[Sid13]

Originally Posted by IceManMK1

The Virtus should fit all your requirements, I drive a lot in Kochi. It is not just the traffic, but the terrain variation and the overall conditions of the road.

Thanks much for those valuable, real world inputs, which are almost a replica of my daily usage.

I wont be going for AT because it would push budget even further. Also ATs mileage is even lower.

[Sid13]

Originally Posted by RaiAnish

Yes it's very sensitive. I have driven the Virtus for about 5000 kms in 5 months in Delhi NCR. Not regularly My fuel expenses haven't really increased much upgrading from Baleno 2015.

How was the experience upgrading from Baleno. I presume that the ride and handling would be incomparably different. But how about the rest of the experience including quality, and service centre experience.