[Game_of_Roads]

When the car is centrally locked, you need to pull twice on the passenger door handles to open that door, once to unlock that door, another to open it.

Originally Posted by adith97

• My wife calls this car "the kidnap car". It is because the lock/unlock functionality for all the doors is with the driver. The passengers can't unlock their doors themselves.

[true_sedan]

Originally Posted by adith97

DSG gearbox in bumper to bumper traffic is a pain. There is the known DSG lag at low speeds plus it gets real confused between 1st & 2nd gear. It is also known to heat up a lot in such traffic. I think people who primarily drive inside cities should think a lot before getting DSG.

Congrats on your car. I've driven my Virtus DSG close to 20k kilometres now. My suggestion for city use is - "be gentle on the accelerator when navigating traffic or speed bumps or bad patches of road." It is in these places the DSG slams between 1 and 2 gears. This could be completely avoided if one is very gentle on the accelerator. I've got the hang of it. You too will. I recently drove from Coimbatore to Bangalore and the stats will amaze you- Average speed: 78 kmph, FE: 17.8 kmpl. Covered 360 kilometres in approx 5 hours. I exclusively use only XP95. Night and day difference between regular fuel and XP95 especially when you are revving it hard.

[steadfast]

Originally Posted by adith97

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*]My wife calls this car "the kidnap car". It is because the lock/unlock functionality for all the doors is with the driver. The passengers can't unlock their doors themselves..

This is safety feature of the car. Someone by chance pulls the lever the door won’t open .. however individual door can be unlocked if pulled twice .

[Rohitthebest]

Congratulations for the superb choice.
It is indeed an amazing car, I Love the 2 Cylinder switch off they that they have in it to increase the mileage on highways.
And welcome to VW family.
Wish you many happy miles ahead.

[sedanlover2021]

I have a Taigun 1.5+ DSG in the garage, for bumper-to-bumper city traffic, I slot the gear into manual mode and use the paddles to ensure it stays in gear 1 while moving at near to 0 speeds. I read about this on this forum itself as a good practice. It only lets you manually upshift around the 17-20 KM/H mark to gear 2 so that's that. Ride is definitely on the stiffer side and Bangalore roads make you feel that more oft than not. But once you gun the pedal you forget all these menial issues

[adith97]

Thanks for the wishes everyone. And for letting me know that I have to open twice to unlock.

Originally Posted by true_sedan

I recently drove from Coimbatore to Bangalore and the stats will amaze you- Average speed: 78 kmph, FE: 17.8 kmpl. Covered 360 kilometres in approx 5 hours. I exclusively use only XP95. Night and day difference between regular fuel and XP95 especially when you are revving it hard.

The stats are indeed amazing. I have been only using XP95 since the start. Have you tried any other 95 octane fuel other than XP95, and is any of them better?

Originally Posted by sedanlover2021

I have a Taigun 1.5+ DSG in the garage, for bumper-to-bumper city traffic, I slot the gear into manual mode and use the paddles to ensure it stays in gear 1 while moving at near to 0 speeds. I read about this on this forum itself as a good practice. It only lets you manually upshift around the 17-20 KM/H mark to gear 2 so that's that. Ride is definitely on the stiffer side and Bangalore roads make you feel that more oft than not. But once you gun the pedal you forget all these menial issues

Thanks for the tip. I'll try this the next time in traffic.
Regarding the suspension, the rebound is high as well on hitting bumps. I also wonder if it is because of the tyres. I got MRF tyres as well which I am not satisfied with. Would like to know if changing tyres might help reduce the stiffness.

[nkonk]

Originally Posted by neoakshay

Hi Bhpians,

I have 3 questions about the Virtus:

1. Once you've parked the car, I'm not sure if any of you have noticed, a slight whirring sound coming from the front of the car. I'm quite sure it's the turbo still spinning. This is inspite of taking it easy with the last few kms before reaching any destination and also idling the engine for about 30 secs before switching off. I remember reading somewhere that turbo engines need to be idled before switching off so that the engine oil can continue to circulate and slow down the spinning turbo. Strangely the owner's manual doesn't mention anything about this, although other brands have it. Any advice for me regarding this?

2. The audio quality seems much better before Android Auto is connected. Not sure if I'm explaining this right - the phone (Android - Samsung S23) connects to the car when you get in and plays music. You also have the option of using Android Auto with an on-screen button. I've noticed that the audio sounds a bit muddy once Android Auto is connected vs before. I saw someone else posting about this earlier somewhere. Has anyone noticed the same, what's your take on this?

3. Seems VW wanted to provide a sunglass holder / a storage space on the ceiling, what else is this in the pic? And I don't think this was present in the older models of the Virtus. Any aftermarket stuff available to make this a sunglass holder?
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Leaving you with a pic I just took after a good night drive to unwind from a long day
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The turbo doesn't need engine oil to slow down, it spins due to the flow of exhaust gas. After spirited driving that part of the turbo is quite hot, The recommendation to idle engine before stop is to circulate oil through the bearings to reduce the temperature so that the oil doesn't get "coked" in the bearings and damage them.
As the oil flow stops suddenly when engine is turned off, meanwhile the turbo bearings would remain hot and kind of burn out the small quantity of oil remaining there.

The instructions for the same(idle before stop) is present in atleast my slavia 1.5 manual, pretty sure they'd have put similar notice on your manual, re-read carefully.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by nkonk

The turbo doesn't need engine oil to slow down, it spins due to the flow of exhaust gas. After spirited driving that part of the turbo is quite hot, The recommendation to idle engine before stop is to circulate oil through the bearings to reduce the temperature so that the oil doesn't get "coked" in the bearings and damage them.
As the oil flow stops suddenly when engine is turned off, meanwhile the turbo bearings would remain hot and kind of burn out the small quantity of oil remaining .

The Turbocharger is cooled by both oil and coolant. The whining sound that comes even after engine off is an electric coolant pump. What this does is to continue flowing coolant into the turbo to cool it down and prevent overheating of the coolant and oil inside the turbo. Hence this car doesnt need additional effort to idle the engine to let the turbo cool down. Thats also done to enable engine auto off by start stop system even after coming to a stop immediately after a high speed run.

So dont worry too much about turbo cool down. The car manages itself, as long as everything is in order else you anyway have warning lights to tell you of the same

[praneesd]

Congratulations on your new beast! I’ve booked a Virtus GT+ with the same showroom and eager to get my hands on it and remap it to the best possible way.

[nkonk]

Originally Posted by audioholic

The Turbocharger is cooled by both oil and coolant. The whining sound that comes even after engine off is an electric coolant pump. What this does is to continue flowing coolant into the turbo to cool it down and prevent overheating of the coolant and oil inside the turbo. Hence this car doesnt need additional effort to idle the engine to let the turbo cool down. Thats also done to enable engine auto off by start stop system even after coming to a stop immediately after a high speed run.

So dont worry too much about turbo cool down. The car manages itself, as long as everything is in order else you anyway have warning lights to tell you of the same

The coolant only cools the exhaust gases within the manifold, and that in turn cools the turbine only. Only until the engine is running.
The post turn off coolant has no effect on turbocharger directly.

The turbocharger "bearing" is cooled only by the oil in pressure,which turns off as the engine shuts off,

If the guys who built the engine ask us to do something, we just try to do it.
The manual says you need to idle for a minute before shutting down after a spirited running.
And that's what I wanted to convey.

Image from Skoda Slavia Manual talking about the idle before stop(twice on the same page )

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by nkonk

The coolant only cools the exhaust gases within the manifold, and that in turn cools the turbine only. Only until the engine is running.
The post turn off coolant has no effect on turbocharger directly.

The turbocharger "bearing" is cooled only by the oil in pressure,which turns off as the engine shuts off,
Image from Skoda Slavia Manual talking about the idle before stop(twice on the same page )

The manual mentions about spirited driving to refer to high oil temperatures. The idling part is not mentioned in context of turbocharger. Else the start stop system would have not even been allowed to operate after a high speed drive which in contrast it does switch off like when you reach a speed bump after a highway run.

Secondly, your understanding of the cooling circuit is not correct. Coolant never cools the exhaust gases rather when coolant temperature is low, the thermostat actually warms up the coolant faster by getting it circulated through the manifold, after which it is blocked. After this, the coolant circulates partially within the head and block and both are kept at different temperatures. Here is the coolant circuit:



The other crucial thing is that there are two independent cooling circuits, one for the regular engine circuit and a dedicated cooling circuit for the turbo and intercooler. This is run by an electric pump. This is the circuit it follows:



This is how coolant reaches the turbo - ensures that the turbo temperature never crosses 80-90 degree C



Lastly, the electric pump in itself


This is no ancient turbo with only oil cooling to coke once the car comes to a stop with the turbo still spinning. In that case the electric pump will continue to run until the turbo temperature reaches safe levels.

[nkonk]

Thanks for the details on the cooling circuit, I stand corrected on direct cooling via coolant aspect. Please provide link to the document you have taken snippets out of if possible, would make for a good weekend read.The complexity of VWs engine is scarily beautiful.


That said, doesn't the whole 'supporting start-stop' post spirited run, be negated by the fact that at high oil temps(which again the manual doesn't directly talk about, it just says overheating in general, and the coolant can cool the engine even after shutoff, just like it operates V188 post engine shutdown), there was no need to ask users to idle at all if all of that was handled.

Is there a software interlock to prevent start-stop at high oil temps ? I have never observed that.

[07CR]

Originally Posted by adith97

[*]AC is very effective. Looks like they have fixed the AC issues now. It is effective even in Chennai.

Congratulations! Wish you safe and happy miles.

The AC issue was more pronounced with the 1.0 litre variant. It still persists

[asethi]

Originally Posted by neoakshay

2. The audio quality seems much better before Android Auto is connected. .... . Has anyone noticed the same, what's your take on this?

Originally Posted by vw_greyghost

Even I feel the same. Before connecting to Android auto, the music is so much better! The tone goes down once its connected. Usually If i am not using google maps, i prefer just connecting to bluetooth for the music.

Not sure of AA, but similar observation while using Spotify via CarPlay & VW Spotify App.
If you guys use Spotify, download the VW Spotify app from VW App Store, the same music sounds so much better than via CarPlay.

Also if you use AA/CarPlay, sound quality is better via cable connection than using wireless which is a bit laggy.

[asethi]

Originally Posted by sedanlover2021

I have a Taigun 1.5+ DSG in the garage, for bumper-to-bumper city traffic, I slot the gear into manual mode and use the paddles to ensure it stays in gear 1 while moving at near to 0 speeds. I read about this on this forum itself as a good practice. It only lets you manually upshift around the 17-20 KM/H mark to gear 2 so that's that. Ride is definitely on the stiffer side and Bangalore roads make you feel that more oft than not. But once you gun the pedal you forget all these menial issues

Switching to S mode also helps if you don't want to change gears manually, it holds the gears for longer duration & less gear shifts happen especially between 1/2/3 compared to D mode, as D mode is very finicky in bumper-to-bumper speeds. e.g. S mode will shift to 2nd gear at 17-20kmph & then hold it ~5-30kmph if you are gentle on A pedal. But make sure not to press accelerator too much in such scenario, it'll fly!