[Rocky_C]

Originally Posted by no_boundaries

Sorry, I don't have an answer but curious to know if you got a solution or if it was a false alert ? Did MASS do an OBD scan on this ?

The alert stopped by itself but wanted to confirm that this was not a sensor or wiring issue. Visited Popular NEXA service at Porur, they did a OBD scan and the error showed up in history. Then they did a 15 km test run with the laptop connected to the car at speeds above 80+ as I had mentioned the alert first came when I was going 70+ and tested to see if the alert pops up again. Something else came up, I don't remember the exact name but it was something like clutch sensor. The technician mentioned that this might be interlinked, reset and cleared all the errors. The Quality Manager told me this could've been a one time occurrence but if it happens again we will need to look into the sensor and replace it. Post this, I driven the car for 100+ kms no other alert has shown up. Hope this helps.

[Chandler Bing]

Originally Posted by Encyclopedic

I have a small query regarding fitment of Alpha variant steering on Delta variant.Is it plug and play or some wiring needs to be altered? If anyone can throw light on the matter as I really wanted to have leather wrapped steering.

You can refer this post from Shashi where he has done a DIY on his XL6. You might get some thoughts.

https://www.team-bhp.com/news/how-i-...ring-wheel-xl6

[sgm]

Hi no_boundaries,

Originally Posted by no_boundaries

ODO@3800kms - Observations post 1900kms drive to Pune and back to Bangalore

1. I tried the manual mode, it helped certainly but it defeats the purpose of buying an automatic. Coming from a Celerio AGS, the AGS on the Baleno is still bad and leaves a lot to desire at highway speeds. The response and feedback to acceleration input is very very slow. What I like is it still holds the higher gear and the engine does a great job to pull through. A manual gear shift would have been remarkable here, I guess hence the manual option . Yet, the gearbox must be competent enough to handle such mundane situation
   
   
   

Overall It's a premium city car that I knew very well at the time of purchase and I have no complaints driving it within the city.

We are also trying to change our Celerio AMT to Baleno AGS. How is Baleno AGS to drive in the city with bumper to bumper traffic? Is there any jerk? Performance is not an issue for us but we are spoilt by other smooth automatics (TC and CVT) we have, so poor AGS is a sore point. Currently evaluating Ignis and Baleno. This will be strictly a city car for us. The extra comfort/convenience features of Baleno Alpha over Ignis Alpha is tempting me to ignore the extra size of Baleno over Ignis. My wife will be the primary user of this car.

Tried Ignis AGS but I was a bit surprised to see that Ignis AGS is still very crude. Though it felt much nicer than Celerio, which has the worst AMT tuning, the expected smoothness is missing during gear shifts. I liked Ignis for its tiny size, as smaller foot print is really a boon for city parking. Waiting for test drive of Baleno to see if it is any better in terms of smoothness. May be it was the issue of poorly maintained the test drive vehicle that Ignis was not good.

[no_boundaries]

Originally Posted by sgm

How is Baleno AGS to drive in the city with bumper to bumper traffic? Is there any jerk?

Hi,

The AGS gearbox in Baleno is a slightly improved version from the Celerio. Its not a huge step up. The jerks between gear shifts are not very pronounced now however it exists, I believe, due to the nature of the AMT. It can never be as smooth as any other gearbox out there. However, you might have observed this on the Celerio, this gearbox adapts very well to your driving style especially acceleration and I find that engaging.

Baleno is not a hassle when you are driving in city, be it crawl traffic or sudden bursts of acceleration, it adapts. Its only the highway, if driven enthusiastically its slow progress.

In terms of comfort, drivability, maneuverability and mileage, its certainly very premium and comfortable and I have no complaints about the car.

[Gupts007]

Originally Posted by sgm

Is there any jerk? Performance is not an issue for us but we are spoilt by other smooth automatics (TC and CVT) we have, so poor AGS is a sore point.

Baleno AGS owner here. I can tell you that the jerks are there and they are more pronounced in lower gears ie. from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd. You cannot miss them. You will be reminded constantly that this is an AMT.

You can however try to reduce the jerks by easing on the accelerator, giving it time to shift and then step on it again.
So please do keep it in mind that this isn't going to be smooth.

[Minato]

Today I took a longish test drive of Baleno Alpha AGS. The condition of test drive car was good enough, a 2022 or an early 2023 model and driven approx. 8900 kms.

If you drive hard and accelerate quickly from standstill, the head-nod is pronounced, and everybody will feel it. During fast overtakes, kickdown is barely noticeable. However, if you drive with a very light foot, one will not feel any jerks or any head-nod. Acceleration is decent and is absolutely linear. Engine sound is definitely audible at higher speed and would pierce AC sound easily, post 70+ km/h. I could be critical here, as I have very sensitive hearing. If take the car, over a steep slope and have to start from a steep point, the engine could get noisy to climb over it.

The steering is below average, though can be controlled with one hand, however the self centering is not good. You need to quickly bring it back to center to control during traffic. But definitely an improvement from previous Marutis'/Suzukis'.

Interiors are subjective, but I personally did not find the cushioning too soft or hard, just good enough. It could also because, the test drive vehicle was from 2022/2023 edition and cushioning could have become a little hard due to weather.

Arkamys Sound is just ok and would not come close to your home speaker system. I probably am took cynical to expect a 4/6 speaker systems of cars to match a proper 2.1 speaker systems.

If one is looking for absolutely smooth drive experience, one need to look away from AGS, and consider CVT. It will be absolutely smooth drive experience. It is a very point to point city car and does that job perfectly.

[CA Dhruv]

Just an update for the group, had bought a Oct'23 made Delta AGS in Jan end. Have driven it around 1500 kms, mostly over highways. Loving how it drives.

On highways while going above 100, it felt like it was chocking and needed to pushed even with just 2 passengers and no luggage. So while going for 1st service last week at around 1270, got its engine oil also changed as it had been almost 6 months since the car had it. Service costed 4492 for synthetic oil change. It has been running smooth since then, drove around 100 kms in local traffic before taking it out on highway.

Now this might be controversial - just on the parameter of driving, I am taking it out more than Thar as finding it more comfortable and without it swaying left right

[raunaksaha2008]

Originally Posted by AutoNoob

UV cut glass is provided in Alpha variant (right on top of feature list). But no mention of application zones. In previous Baleno UV cut glasses were given in both Zeta & Alpha variants but only on Front, Rear and Qtr glasses, not windshield.

The windshield is probably UV cut too as per difference in model number of windshields for Alpha variant vs the others.

[visakhmv]

Infotainment touch issue

So I'm forced to live with the defective touch screen of the car, Since mine is the Alpha variant it comes with the SmartPlay Pro+ system with 9 inch screen.

It all started this month, on May 7th when I turned on the car the touch screen was acting very weird. It was practically unusable, the screen was registering false touch input all over and touching everywhere. I was going somewhere unfamiliar and was using the navigation and it was zooming in and out changing the map view and starting and stopping the music. Because I was in a hurry I manged by locking the screen and relying on the head-up display which also shows navigation turns.

I bought the car in June 2022 so the 4th service was coming up so I promptly booked for a service the next day and took a video of the issue to show them.

https://youtu.be/wzpaUceMiCs

By the next day the severity of the issue had reduced and it was happening intermittently. On the day of the service I explained everything to the service advisor, the problem was by this day the issue went away and they looked for few hours to reproduced it and couldn't.

I was partially relieved that the issue was gone and thought it might've happened because of the severe heat we were having. All was good for two weeks and rains have started so thought it won't happen again but it did, this time it wasn't as severe as before but I knew that the issue is still there.

I promptly talked to the warranty coordinator at maruti suzuki and told him about my unique warranty situation, as I came to know that the warranty of infotainment is for two years and is not covered in the extended warranty and lo and behold my warranty will expire that week.
The infotainment of my model is made by a company called Clarion which is a vendor for the SmartPlay Pro+ system, the warranty coordinator emailed Clarion and they asked the service center to do a swap test of the unit to make sure it wasn't an issue with the car. They managed to do the swap test and record a video of the issue and send it to them.

Now the explanation I got was that because the issue was found out this late of the warranty period I'm not getting the unit replaced or fixed and the options the warranty coordinator gave me was to replace the unit with a cheaper one or get it repaired but they don't have any means to get it repaired at the moment and he'll let me know if he gets any info on that.

The infotainment unit in Baleno has a lot of tight integration with the car, it shows the 360 camera, shows google maps navigation on the head-up unit as well as in the instrument cluster, shows trip details etc. I'll be missing out on all of these if I replaced it with a cheaper one and replacing the whole unit for 40-50K for a touch screen issue isn't something I'm willing to do.

So what I'm doing now is living with it as the issue is only happening once in a while and I can get by by locking the screen and unlocking it only when it's necessary and do everything else using the steering wheel controls.

I'm not sure what my other options are at this moment if the issue gets worse, I'm looking for someplace that works on the display the can fix it but not that hopeful.

[visakhmv]

Following up my previous post about the infotainment issue, now it has become unusable except for listening to music and 360 camera. Making calls is a hassle as it will touch and call other contacts when the phone screen is open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX4hqtNY-as

Viewing maps is the biggest problem at the moment. I still don't have a viable solution to this. I'll update when there is any changes.

[arka_007]

Hi - I have a query. I recently bought the Alpha AMT in Feb 2024. We went on a short trip to Ooty and unfortunately while returning, a deer jumped right into the right side of the car. Luckily no casualties, but I had to replace the driver and rear driver doors as they were heavily damaged.

Coming to the point, ever since I got the car back, I started noticing a sound that is coming from the gear shifts, specifically when it's shifting up and down in the first 3 gears. I do not recall if this was prevalent before as well. I took the car to service center, and was told this is operating sound and is common among AMTs. I wanted to understand from the group if this is actually true, and there is a sound which is clear to come from the auto gear shifts, as I do did not hear this in the multiple test drives.

Please let me know. Thanks!

[kbihani29]

Hi,

I have a query about Baleno Sigma MT purchased in April 2023.
The manufacturing date of the car is March 2023 (in VIN as well as Invoice)

Based on reports, it was supposed to have ESC and Hill hold control as default, but when I drive, hill hold never activates. The SA is clueless (I haven't asked the service center yet)

Does anyone know if ESC and Hill hold control was present by default in March 2023 models of baleno? Any way to check if its present and activated or not?

[no_boundaries]

Originally Posted by kbihani29

Does anyone know if ESC and Hill hold control was present by default in March 2023 models of baleno? Any way to check if its present and activated or not?

ESC is a button on the left side of the dashboard below the AC vent, long pressing the button would activate or deactivate the function.

Hill Hold does not show as a light on the dashboard, however, it engages when the car is in gear and you have come to a stand still. When you move and let your foot off the brake, if you are on an incline the car holds for about 3 seconds (I assume). I agree this is not very consistent and in some scenarios it doesn't hold however this works accurately when it engages.

[kbihani29]

Originally Posted by no_boundaries

I agree this is not very consistent and in some scenarios it doesn't hold however this works accurately when it engages.

Thanks for the input sir.
But never in the last 1 years 3 months has the hill hold engaged, and hence the query if its actually even present in the vehicle or not? My guess is all vehicles in production starting from March 2023 should have it, or was it only for vehicles in production from April 2023?

I do see the Traction Control button on the right hand side below the head light leveler which dis-engages the traction control. My guess is its the same button for ESC as well.

[Cleatus Wesley]

Originally Posted by kbihani29

Based on reports, it was supposed to have ESC and Hill hold control as default, but when I drive, hill hold never activates. The SA is clueless (I haven't asked the service center yet)

I have a 2023 February make.
I have observed that the hill hold assist activates only when you are at a certain angle of inclination. Try it out a parking ramp and make sure to press the brake firmly for it to activate.