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Originally Posted by JagMan

That sound was grating on me and making me question the wisdom of buying a tata in the first place. 😅

Tata SVC is too poor. Even worse than Renault/ Nissan.
This is a typical case of good product ruined by improper management.
Greater issue is, niggles and even bigger issues will always be a headache to repair from SVC. Better look for a reliable garage for these.

[Chitta Pradhan]

Has functioning of AMT improved after it's launch? Baleno AMT, which I test drove some time back is quite livable now.

What's the ownership experience of Punch AMT. I want to consider this as 2nd car for city usage only. Will appreciate feedback on AMT. My current drive is Vento TDI DSG.

Thanks

[Emvi]

Recently I had the opportunity to test drive the 2023 model Punch twice. First was at a dealership(manual variant) and second was my relative's car(AMT variant) which he took delivery just a fortnight ago.

The test drive in the manual variant was short, but it was an eye-opener nonetheless. I had test-driven the first generation Punch long ago and back then, I was far from impressed with its NVH level and engine response. However, in comparison, the current generation Punch is remarkably silent and its engine is quite responsive.

I took my relative's AMT version for a drive a few days later, which further reiterated my observations. I drove the car from south Bangalore to Devanahalli and back(~100 kms). I have to say that I don't have much experience driving cars with AT / AMT. To my surprise, it was impressive the way the car performed in bumper to bumper traffic situation. We were 4 people in the car and it's performance was quite a revelation to me although I stuck to the speed limit on airport road and did not push the car much.

Just a few things to summaries -

1. The NVH level has improved considerably.

2. The acceleration / engine response too has improved a couple of notches at the least.

3. AMT is not bad as many of us think it is. For Bangalore traffic kind of usage it serves it's purpose pretty well IMO.

4. After the drive, the odometer showed that the car had covered around 300 kms, and the MID displayed an overall FE of 10.5 kmpl. However, on the airport road stretch, the car's infotainment system reported a FE of 17.4 kmpl. Given that the car hadn't been driven much, I am reserving judgement on its FE at the moment.

[Piyush Kanthak]

https://www.motorbeam.com/tata-punch...otted-testing/
Source:Motorbeam

Looks like Tata may introduce a turbo in the Punch. They had done the same with Altroz too after 1 year of launch, I hope they give this engine with an automatic and manual, this car is in a desparate need of it.

[Venkatesh]

The 200,000th Tata Punch rolls off the assembly line, reaching the milestone in just 19 months.



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[ashvek3141]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

The 200,000th Tata Punch rolls off the assembly line, reaching the milestone in just 19 months.

This is indeed a commendable feat by TATA. I’m amazed how it manages to achieve this with an average Petrol engine & a not so enthusiastic gearbox. I’m not even talking about the AMT.

Anyway, as long as the customers are happy and it meets their requirements. Good job !

P. S.: It might soon face some heat from the upcoming Exter from Hyundai. Good to see some competition in this segment.

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

The 200,000th Tata Punch rolls off the assembly line, reaching the milestone in just 19 months.

Commendable job by Tata. Tata is on a roll, about to dethrone Hyundai as number two in the market. A simple strategy worked for them, good looking safe cars at a reasonable price.

[Chitta Pradhan]

Hi All,

Booked Punch AMT Creative variant in Bronze color as my 2nd car mostly for city usage. Took TD of AMT variant with three occupants inside. AMT functioning is kind of OK, even when my current drive is a Vento TDI DSG. The jerk in 1st and 2nd gear is lesser in AMT. Above that it's the DSG which is a clear winner by a big margin. I found that the progress till 80 KMPH is acceptable. Beyond that it felt too slow. Ride was also quite good. No problem in handling either. NVH while accelerating was more than my expectation, but while cruising it was quite ok. I reset the MID FE few times during the TD. On an open stretch @ 80 kmph, got a display of 19.5 kmpl. I think on highways with sedate driving this car can deliver close to 20 kmpl. This was a BS-6 phase 1 demo car. Also took a very short drive of a phase 2 car which was due for delivery to a customer after a gap of 10 odd days of driving the phase 1 demo car. Cann't comment much on that car, which felt more or less the same as phase 1. Hopefully the improvement in NVH & low end drivability is perceptible, which will be a real boon for me. Can any one share the comparison please.

I surely missed the driver's arm rest. Can it be fixed after market?

One lesson- as soon as the car arrives at the stockyard, we must take delivery of the car, else it may be used as an unofficial demo car.

Thanks

[abhi_krao]

Originally Posted by Chitta Pradhan

Hi All,

Booked Punch AMT Creative variant in Bronze color as my 2nd car mostly for city usage. Took TD of AMT variant with three occupants inside. AMT functioning is kind of OK, even when my current drive is a Vento TDI DSG. The jerk in 1st and 2nd gear is lesser in AMT. Above that it's the DSG which is a clear winner by a big margin. I found that the progress till 80 KMPH is acceptable. Beyond that it felt too slow. Ride was also quite good. No problem in handling either. NVH while accelerating was more than my expectation, but while cruising it was quite ok. I reset the MID FE few times during the TD. On an open stretch @ 80 kmph, got a display of 19.5 kmpl. I think on highways with sedate driving this car can deliver close to 20 kmpl. This was a BS-6 phase 1 demo car. Also took a very short drive of a phase 2 car which was due for delivery to a customer after a gap of 10 odd days of driving the phase 1 demo car. Cann't comment much on that car, which felt more or less the same as phase 1. Hopefully the improvement in NVH & low end drivability is perceptible, which will be a real boon for me. Can any one share the comparison please.

I surely missed the driver's arm rest. Can it be fixed after market?

One lesson- as soon as the car arrives at the stockyard, we must take delivery of the car, else it may be used as an unofficial demo car.

Thanks

After using DSG car, I was expecting some harsh comments for AMT car from you but you seem to be quite pleased with it. It's a great city car and you can get good aftermarket armrests for it.

[Chitta Pradhan]

I had taken a TD of Magnite CVT earlier and today I again took a TD of the same car. I have booked a Punch AMT as my 2nd car primarily for city use. Now I am evaluating other automatic petrol options till the time Punch arrives. I am open to cancellation of Punch. Also I actually don't need a 2nd car, as I am the only one in my family who drive now. Just because I am getting bored of driving one car (Vento TDI DSG), taking a 2nd one. A smaller footprint and higher seating car will be surely more convenient for city usage.

The engine & CVT combo of Magnite is way superior to Punch. Though AMT is kind of ok in Punch, the pick up of the car is too slow. Even then I am inclined more towards Punch for the following reasons-

1. 5 star safety against 4 star.
2. To me Punch looks better.
3. Interior of Punch feels better.
4. AC effectiveness is better in Punch ( from TD experience).
5. 90 degree door opening in Punch.
6. Punch will be more fuel efficient.

I still want to consider Magnite only for the power and seemless CVT it offers without perceptible rubber band effect. While TD I got the FE in MID reset and after the TD I got a reading of 13.5 kmpl. In same condition, my Vento would have shown 20 kmpl. While taking TD of Punch in another route, I got a MID FE of 17.5 kmpl.

I apprehend that Magnite CVT may be approx 4 kmpl less fuel efficient than Punch AMT, which is a concern for me. What kind of FE are you getting in Punch AMT. I am confused which car should I go for. Any insights? Any other car should I check?

I am searching for a safe, automatic, petrol and high seating car. Smaller the car better for me. Till 4m length, it can be squeezed in my apartment parking along with my existing car. I can stretch my budget to 15 lacs or even little more. Electric is not viable, because running will be too less.

Thanks

[Emvi]

Originally Posted by Chitta Pradhan

Any other car should I check?

I am searching for a safe, automatic, petrol and high seating car. Smaller the car better for me. Till 4m length, it can be squeezed in my apartment parking along with my existing car. I can stretch my budget to 15 lacs or even little more.

You may consider the Ignis or Wagon-R if you haven't already. If you are not in a hurry, you may also wait for the Hyundai Exter, which is set to be launched on July 10th.

[Chitta Pradhan]

Originally Posted by Emvi

You may consider the Ignis or Wagon-R if you haven't already. If you are not in a hurry, you may also wait for the Hyundai Exter, which is set to be launched on July 10th.

Thanks for your quick response. Sorry, I forgot to mention that minimum features required are-

-Push button start
-Cruise control

Exter will have both the features, but may have poor safety going by Creta's score. Wagon-R and Ignis have safety concerns and both do not have cruise control.

[bijims]

Originally Posted by Chitta Pradhan

Thanks for your quick response. Sorry, I forgot to mention that minimum features required are-

-Push button start
-Cruise control

Exter will have both the features, but may have poor safety going by Creta's score. Wagon-R and Ignis have safety concerns and both do not have cruise control.

Considering your requirements, you can also consider the Renault Kiger CVT, Maruti Brezza AT, Kia Sonet DCT/Hyundai Venue DCT too.

The Kiger is Magnite's sibling but should offer a better ride and has a better sales and service network.

The Brezza is a best seller in the Compact SUV space with all the features you need and the best service network in the country.

The Venue and Sonet are also feature-packed cars with good DCT transmissions and powerful turbo petrol engines.

The Kiger scored similarly to the Magnite in GNCAP tests but comes with 4 airbags in the top two trims as against 2 in the Magnite, however, the Magnite does come with a 360-degree camera which the Kiger lacks.

Now, the earlier Gen Brezza was rated 4 stars by GNCAP, the new Brezza should score similarly or even better. The Venue and Sonet haven't been tested by GNCAP and hence safety scores are not available, however, they do come with all necessary active and passive safety features and do come with 4 airbags standard and 6 airbags on the top variants.

Do check out these cars as well.

[firingpistonz]

Hi there. After a lot of dilly-dallying, I have finally decided to go ahead with a Punch. I was confused between a Punch and an Ignis. after a lot of thought, I decided to go ahead with the Punch. I found the improvements to the BS6 phase 2 car to be astonishing. I had last test driven the car in Dec of 2022, there was audible engine noise and it felt unrefined. Now it is all gone, it highly refined and drivable. Cannot believe its the same engine. Though it is not as smooth and drivable as its suzuki counterpart, it is still closer. But the vague/notchy gear throws and long-clutch travel (compared to Ignis) is still present.

This is our second car and I would like to keep the cost as low as possible.

Coming back to the point/questions I have
1) I have booked an Accomplish MT. I am confused between an Adventure Rhythm and the aforementioned variant. The only features that I need (that are present in the Accomplish variant), driver height adjustable seats and fog lamps. Keyless entry to some extent(as they only give one remote key in Adv Rhythm variant). The other extra features like cruise control, rear LED lights and stylized wheel covers are just somethings that I dont need.

With this, is it advisable to go for Accomplish. The difference in price between the two are 35-40K. Is it worth the extra money? The SA says ADV rhythm and Creative Variants are the top selling variants. Accomplish and Pure are very less in numbers.

2) I am planning to opt for only 3 accessories from the dealer. Mud flaps, floor mats and Window visors. Are there any other must-have accessories that I need?

3) I have opted for the EW extension for 15900, and I feel this is necessary. What Im not sure about is the Gold AMC plan. It costs Rs 16500. Fellow owners, please advice if this is useful/must have. I'm not sure about this as I have never opted for this with our earlier cars.

4) Should I upgrade the tyres to 195 width? is it really warranted that it will improve ride/handling or both.

[RavenAvi]

Autospy spotted the Punch CNG on a testing run in Pune recently. Looks like it's production-ready.

The spare wheel under the test mule's body was the giveaway.