[Sandegov]

There is definitely an increasing number of premature oem battery failures being reported by 700 owners, roughly at about 2 year or lesser mark. I hope M&M takes note of this and look at their pan India data to validate and get to the bottom of this.

Furthermore, below are few inconsistencies observed when it comes to the 700 and oem battery supplied. Do note that the below points are not related to variants/engine types, for simplicity you can take it that it has been observed across AX7 and AX7L variants which are top variants. Owners going in for a new battery today are not even sure which battery to go for - 72Ah? 80Ah? or a 90Ah?

1. We have mostly the initial batch owners whose printed manual states 72Ah and online manual stating 90Ah and were supplied with 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery (in my personal opinion - this is just too low for a modern day connected car. For reference the previous gen 500 came with a 90Ah battery)
   
2. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a Amaron 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery as per Amaron.
   
3. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a 105D31L battery which is a 80Ah battery as per Amaron. It is also observed that there is a separate white paper piece with 90Ah printed and stuck on battery.
   
4. In the mix of all this - there are few owners who have the white Intelligent Battery sensor connected to the negative terminal and hooked up to the car through cables and then there are others who do not have this in their 700 from factory. I was told this sensor is supposed to provide the data related to the state of health of the battery to the car to better manage the charging of batteries and also to cut off alternator as and when needed. Pretty nifty feature to miss out if you ask me for all the folks who dint get it.

[IvanBiv]

Originally Posted by Sandegov

I hope M&M takes note of this and look at their pan India data to validate and get to the bottom of this.

1. We have mostly the initial batch owners whose printed manual states 72Ah and online manual stating 90Ah and were supplied with 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery (in my personal opinion - this is just too low for a modern day connected car. For reference the previous gen 500 came with a 90Ah battery)
   
2. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a Amaron 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery as per Amaron.
   
3. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a 105D31L battery which is a 80Ah battery as per Amaron. It is also observed that there is a separate white paper piece with 90Ah printed and stuck on battery.
   
4. In the mix of all this - there are few owners who have the white Intelligent Battery sensor connected to the negative terminal and hooked up to the car through cables and then there are others who do not have this in their 700 from factory. I was told this sensor is supposed to provide the data related to the state of health of the battery to the car to better manage the charging of batteries and also to cut off alternator as and when needed. Pretty nifty feature to miss out if you ask me for all the folks who dint get it.

Nicely summarised @Sandegov.

The inconsistencies in OEM battery specs is indeed something M&M should clarify. In fact the 85D26L is no longer available in the market and Amaron's website doesn't even show it. The closest alternative is the 95D26L (which is 72ah). Nowhere in the manual is a battery model mentioned as an alternative, which could help owners take a decision, if at all going in for a replacement at any stage. So it seems, completely dependent on ASC. I am even more sceptical that there would be any consistency among the various ASC's as well while suggesting a replacement.

When my vehicle battery went dead recently, the RSA person who came to jumpstart the car, mentioned that the life of 7OO OEM batteries is 2 years and anything beyond that is one's luck. Imagine that!

As you mentioned, for a connected car, 72ah does seem low. considering the below two scenarios, there could be many triggers for rapid battery failure.
- Imagine the wonderful VI network which we keep following trying to latch on. Battery drain trigger?
- The software updates and any possible glitches that could be triggering rapid battery drains. Possible?

[shrk_18]

Originally Posted by Sandegov

There is definitely an increasing number of premature oem battery failures being reported by 700 owners, roughly at about 2 year or lesser mark. I hope M&M takes note of this and look at their pan India data to validate and get to the bottom of this.

Furthermore, below are few inconsistencies observed when it comes to the 700 and oem battery supplied. Do note that the below points are not related to variants/engine types, for simplicity you can take it that it has been observed across AX7 and AX7L variants which are top variants. Owners going in for a new battery today are not even sure which battery to go for - 72Ah? 80Ah? or a 90Ah?

1. We have mostly the initial batch owners whose printed manual states 72Ah and online manual stating 90Ah and were supplied with 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery (in my personal opinion - this is just too low for a modern day connected car. For reference the previous gen 500 came with a 90Ah battery)
   
2. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a Amaron 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery as per Amaron.
   
3. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a 105D31L battery which is a 80Ah battery as per Amaron. It is also observed that there is a separate white paper piece with 90Ah printed and stuck on battery.
   
4. In the mix of all this - there are few owners who have the white Intelligent Battery sensor connected to the negative terminal and hooked up to the car through cables and then there are others who do not have this in their 700 from factory. I was told this sensor is supposed to provide the data related to the state of health of the battery to the car to better manage the charging of batteries and also to cut off alternator as and when needed. Pretty nifty feature to miss out if you ask me for all the folks who dint get it.

Thanks @SandeGov very well summarised.

To add more confusion, the BMS sensor which you mention is connected to the -ve terminal was apparently only for vehicles with CAFE 2 norms which had the stupid and useless start-stop feature. But what's baffling is, some of the cars from early - mid 2022 have this sensor with when there is no start-stop functionality. Also the newer cars early-mid 2024 onwards that are shipped with 105D31L and marked as 90Ah don't have this sensor while they have start-stop feature !!!

Its a complete mess. To top it 90 Ah as per Amaron's website is 135D31L which isn't available anywhere in Bangalore (at least not with the folks I checked with)

[mahesh.alse]

Hi,

i have replaced the blades in about 20 months using boodmo's OEM replacement and they are of good quality ones.

Originally Posted by tatrahumvee

Hi folks,

Need a suggestion for wiper blades replacement on my Xuv 700. NES that came with the car lasted for two years and I was happy with the performance as well. Has anyone tried the OEM options available in Boodmo as the RHD side dimensions are 19inch as per the website and actual ones are 15 inch. I had tried fixing the new Michelin flat wiper blades from Amazon which is called multifit but none of the optional adaptors fit xuv 700.

[supertinu]

Originally Posted by Sandegov

There is definitely an increasing number of premature oem battery failures being reported by 700 owners, roughly at about 2 year or lesser mark. I hope M&M takes note of this and look at their pan India data to validate and get to the bottom of this.

Thanks for sharing, very informative. For some reason OEM batteries are never as good as what we buy after market. On my XUV500 I had a 85AH Amaron OEM batt which gave up soon after completing 3 yrs, the replacement 90AH Amaron was still running solid when I sold the car in its 10yr.

I have a AX7L D AT, the stickers on mine also had 90AH in multiple places. Need to pay closer attn to model number.

[thumpmeister]

On the topic of Ceramic coating / PPF - forum members from Mumbai / Thane / Navi Mumbai, which detailing studio would you recommend for Ceramic coating? Based on some basic research, to avoid scratches and blemishes on the Midnight Black colour of my XUV 700, I have almost made up my mind to go for Ceramic. However, need to decide on going for 3M Ceramic coating or from some detailing studio which uses never heard of brands for their coats? Looking forward to suggestions.

[akg7091]

Originally Posted by Sandegov

There is definitely an increasing number of premature oem battery failures being reported by 700 owners, roughly at about 2 year or lesser mark. I hope M&M takes note of this and look at their pan India data to validate and get to the bottom of this.

Furthermore, below are few inconsistencies observed when it comes to the 700 and oem battery supplied. Do note that the below points are not related to variants/engine types, for simplicity you can take it that it has been observed across AX7 and AX7L variants which are top variants. Owners going in for a new battery today are not even sure which battery to go for - 72Ah? 80Ah? or a 90Ah?

1. We have mostly the initial batch owners whose printed manual states 72Ah and online manual stating 90Ah and were supplied with 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery (in my personal opinion - this is just too low for a modern day connected car. For reference the previous gen 500 came with a 90Ah battery)
   
2. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a Amaron 85D26L battery which is a 72Ah battery as per Amaron.
   
3. We have owners whose owner manual states a 90Ah battery but were supplied with a 105D31L battery which is a 80Ah battery as per Amaron. It is also observed that there is a separate white paper piece with 90Ah printed and stuck on battery.
   
4. In the mix of all this - there are few owners who have the white Intelligent Battery sensor connected to the negative terminal and hooked up to the car through cables and then there are others who do not have this in their 700 from factory. I was told this sensor is supposed to provide the data related to the state of health of the battery to the car to better manage the charging of batteries and also to cut off alternator as and when needed. Pretty nifty feature to miss out if you ask me for all the folks who dint get it.

I am on my FOURTH battery now. Car is 3 yrs old. My car has visited multiple service centers and stayed there for months. They are unable to diagnose the issue. Apart from the battery issue I faced major issues with the keyfob not working / getting disabled randomly and the KESS / door sensor being unstable forcing you to take the remote out and pressing the button to lock / unlock the car

[Aarhot]

Hello All, This question would have been asked multiple times on this forum related to suspension and its behavior/impact when car goes over a speed bump.
Is there any mechanical fix or help provided by Mahindra ASC that can help in reducing "thud" sound if we don't go very slowly over the speed bump?

Mine is in its 4th year of ownership.

[CapKoura]

I’ve been facing an issue with the driver side electric seat adjustment.

When I open the driver’s door, the seat does the welcome movement for ease of ingress, but when I shut the door, it does not come back to the original position. It stops a couple of inches short, and then I have to move it further ahead either with the seatbase button or the memory button.

…which brings me to the second issue (quirk?). The memory buttons need just a single press to adjust the seat when the car is turned off (no auxiliary mode either, fully turned off). But the same adjustment requires you to keep the button pressed if the car’s turned on or in auxiliary mode.

Has anyone else faced these issues?

[powertrain]

Originally Posted by thumpmeister

On the topic of Ceramic coating / PPF - forum members from Mumbai / Thane / Navi Mumbai, which detailing studio would you recommend for Ceramic coating? Based on some basic research, to avoid scratches and blemishes on the Midnight Black colour of my XUV 700, I have almost made up my mind to go for Ceramic. However, need to decide on going for 3M Ceramic coating or from some detailing studio which uses never heard of brands for their coats? Looking forward to suggestions.

Hello Thump!

Ceramic vs PPF is a topic done to death! It's a matter of personal choice.

Less protection, More shine = Ceramic
More protection, A bit less shine = PPF

I did not get PPF done in my 2020 Kia Seltos due to Covid lockdown in March 2020. Then never got around of getting it done. Result - Innumerable small scratches picked up over time.. Big mistake

Did not repeat the mistake when I got my Fortuner in 2022. Got it PPF'ed within a short time. Result - PPF has shielded all the scratches that I could have got!

Like you, I reside in Mumbai too. And for me scratch protection was top priority. And for me, PPF has been an excellent investment!

Hope I've given you some clarity / confused you even more!

Cheers,
Powertrain

[IamNikhil]

Originally Posted by CapKoura

I’ve been facing an issue with the driver side electric seat adjustment.

When I open the driver’s door, the seat does the welcome movement for ease of ingress, but when I shut the door, it does not come back to the original position. It stops a couple of inches short, and then I have to move it further ahead either with the seatbase button or the memory button.

This quirk is present since the first day, but never really got around to complain about it since it happened maybe 1/10 times. However, with the car about to go in for the 40k kms servicing, I am planning to speak to the ASC about this, since the frequency of the quirk has increased to atleast 6/10 times and it gets really annoying having to adjust the seat to find the perfect position all over again.

[soarersc300]

Originally Posted by thumpmeister

On the topic of Ceramic coating / PPF - forum members from Mumbai / Thane / Navi Mumbai, which detailing studio would you recommend for Ceramic coating? Based on some basic research, to avoid scratches and blemishes on the Midnight Black colour of my XUV 700, I have almost made up my mind to go for Ceramic. However, need to decide on going for 3M Ceramic coating or from some detailing studio which uses never heard of brands for their coats? Looking forward to suggestions.

I got PPF done on my A6 from Amol at Optimum Detailerz in Chembur. There are many reviews as well that you can read on TeamBHP about Amol, cant recommend him enough.

[shifu]

Originally Posted by CapKoura

The memory buttons need just a single press to adjust the seat when the car is turned off (no auxiliary mode either, fully turned off). But the same adjustment requires you to keep the button pressed if the car’s turned on or in auxiliary mode.

I think it would be difficult to find someone who is not frustrated with this particular issue...

What I have noticed (most of the times) is that the seat adjustment stops immediately when I press the "start/stop" button. So I wait till the seat comes to the intended position, and I press the "start/stop" button after that. Sometimes even this doesn't work, but 6/10 times...

Originally Posted by IamNikhil

....and it gets really annoying having to adjust the seat to find the perfect position all over again.

You don't have to find the perfect position all over again - you can keep the memory button (1 or 2) pressed, and the seat will come back to what was saved.

[IamNikhil]

Originally Posted by shifu

You don't have to find the perfect position all over again - you can keep the memory button (1 or 2) pressed, and the seat will come back to what was saved.

That's the thing - Even pressing the button doesn't help, hence have to manually adjust the position. I guess I was just lazy to get this sorted in previous visits to the ASC.

[SchnelleKurven]

Originally Posted by thumpmeister

On the topic of Ceramic coating / PPF - forum members from Mumbai / Thane / Navi Mumbai, which detailing studio would you recommend for Ceramic coating?.

Go for Ceramic/so called Graphene. I would recommend MaxShine in Thane. Have personal experience on two cars, VW polo GT and New Hyundai Verna. XUV has weak paint and is prone to stone chip damage.

Ceramic is good enough. I feel PPF has downsides on the longer term for the expense incurred.