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Old 28th December 2024, 19:55   #11266
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

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If anyone is looking to disable the Auto Stop-Start feature on the XUV700, I have managed to do it in a very low tech way. Thanks to everyone on the forum for their suggestions, especially @rroy92
I have always found auto start/stop feature to be quite useful unless we are driving in very heavy traffic. It's a great feature to have for red lights and longer stops in general.

Why are people looking to disable it permanently? Just a subjective preference or some other objective reason as well?
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Old 28th December 2024, 20:16   #11267
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

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I have always found auto start/stop feature to be quite useful unless we are driving in very heavy traffic. It's a great feature to have for red lights and longer stops in general.

Why are people looking to disable it permanently? Just a subjective preference or some other objective reason as well?

I believe it is based on how it is implemented and there are differences based on the Transmission. In the Petrol Manual, when does it engage? In the case of Automatic, in my opinion, the Auto Start Stop is very aggressive.

on another note : I am looking for replacement Tail Lamp Body Side - RH for AX7. (non sequential type. I think all the models except AX7 L will have the same)
P.M me if you have one or a set lying around. (maybe when you moved to the AX7L Tail Lamps)
A kid on a bicycle crashed into my stationary car and broke a small part of the Brake Light.

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Old 28th December 2024, 22:19   #11268
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

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I have always found auto start/stop feature to be quite useful unless we are driving in very heavy traffic. It's a great feature to have for red lights and longer stops in general.

Why are people looking to disable it permanently? Just a subjective preference or some other objective reason as well?
Different people might have different reasons. One man's food is another man's poison

For me, i live in Chennai and 10 months of the year the weather is hot and humid. I NEVER want the AC turning off when I'm in my car. ASS kills the AC so I hate it. ANYTHING that messes with the AC will be killed. Secondly the ASS is also implemented too aggressively for my taste. I just don't like it - i have given it an honest chance but it has never grown on me, it is the single most detestable feature in the car for me.

ASS may be good for some people and they are welcome to use it. Those who don't like it should be able to turn it off. My problem is doing in 15 times a day, EVERY SINGLE DAY! If the company provides the option to turn it off, it should just remember my preference like everything else. If the car can remember my seat position, my ORVM position, my climate control settings, I would also like it to remember my ASS preference.

The manufacturer may have many reasons to implement this feature in the way they have implemented. But I don't have to necessarily like it because other people do, or the "manufacturer knows best" type of approach that companies like Apple follow. I don't like things forced down my throat and being told I have to live with it. If i don't like something and I can do something about it, I will.

Those who have no issues with the feature are welcome to leave it on, or turn it off every time they want etc etc... I don't judge them or question them for their preferences. And I don't advocate that everyone turn off the feature. All I did was share the way I disabled it in My car. The number for DMs and personal WhatsApp messages i have received with thanks for this post just tell me that there are many others who share my irritation with this feature. Freedom of choice. To each his own
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Old 29th December 2024, 11:34   #11269
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

I recently completed a 2,000 km road trip in my 700 AX7L P AT after its first servicing and noticed that the car tends to stay in first and second gears longer than usual. It takes more time to shift, with the RPMs reaching 3000 before upshifting. Before the 10,000 km servicing, I used to get a highway mileage of about 13-15 km/l, but now it barely exceeds 10 km/l. I’ve been using the same fuel as before (XP95). I loved the effortless feel of the engine earlier, but now it feels like it’s struggling every time I press the accelerator. Weirdly, I don’t sense the same grunt when shifting to higher gears (3 to 4 or 4 to 5).

Is it an expected behaviour after 10K servicing?
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Old 29th December 2024, 12:54   #11270
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I have always found auto start/stop feature to be quite useful unless we are driving in very heavy traffic. It's a great feature to have for red lights and longer stops in general.

Why are people looking to disable it permanently? Just a subjective preference or some other objective reason as well?
Just my thoughts and rationale. No facts to support them:

I consider auto start/stop leading to increased wear and tear on multiple parts: battery, starter motor, pulleys on the crankshaft and accessories such as alternator and AC compressor, timing components (belts or chains as applicable), oil pump and related interruption in lubrication of moving metal parts all through the engine, etc.

There is of course the matter that many of these parts may have been uprated in their specification at the design stage to cope with the increased number of start/stop cycles, but I feel in most city use conditions (and that too especially in our conditions), it probably leads to increased cost at the time of buying the car (due to uprated components) as well as due to premature part replacements (for those affected components which were not thought through well enough).

On the face of it, auto start/stop may be seen contributing to savings in fuel consumption and reduction in emissions but those aspects may actually be offset or made worse by increased costs (over and above any fuel savings) for the end user and increased emissions in the supply chain due to premature part replacements (thus more production of spares than necessary) due to additional wear and tear.

Considering the matter of part replacements, due to the lack of sufficient number of skilled and incentivized mechanics, it is probably easier and cheaper in the long run to spend more on fuel without auto start/stop rather than have some untrained/inexperienced technician try to replace some of the parts listed above.
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Old 29th December 2024, 15:45   #11271
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

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I have always found auto start/stop feature to be quite useful unless we are driving in very heavy traffic. It's a great feature to have for red lights and longer stops in general.

Why are people looking to disable it permanently? Just a subjective preference or some other objective reason as well?
I feel the irritant with Auto Stop Start (ASS) is more prominent with A/T. People with M/T are more resilient to the situation. That is because in M/T the ASS kicks in only when the car is put in neutral and clutch is released. In A/T it will turn off the minute you come to a full stand still. In M/T I have also noticed the engine turn off after a second of releasing the clutch, if I press the clutch immediately after releasing it, the engine does not turn off.

I feel Mahindra should allow the timing for ASS to be configured or at least delay a bit more in A/T.
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Old 30th December 2024, 13:34   #11272
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

So, after much deliberation and indecision/confusion on the Make and Variant to go for, we (partner & me) have finally plonked the booking amount on the AX7 L D AT 2WD variant. The colour of choice is Midnight Black.

I stay in Thane and most of the typical usage would be 80/20 in favour of highway/city.

Need suggestions on the accessories to go for this baby. Whether should go for the ones offered by Mahindra/Dealership or go via 3rd party shops in Auto market in MMR. Am looking for practical accessories and must have and not to deck up the vehicle by adding on extra weight.

Looking forward to the suggestions from XUV 700 brothers/sisters out here who have tried and tested the accessories. Thank you in advance.
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So, after much deliberation and indecision/confusion on the Make and Variant to go for, we (partner & me) have finally plonked the booking amount on the AX7 L D AT 2WD variant. The colour of choice is Midnight Black.

I stay in Thane and most of the typical usage would be 80/20 in favour of highway/city.

Need suggestions on the accessories to go for this baby. Whether should go for the ones offered by Mahindra/Dealership or go via 3rd party shops in Auto market in MMR. Am looking for practical accessories and must have and not to deck up the vehicle by adding on extra weight.

Looking forward to the suggestions from XUV 700 brothers/sisters out here who have tried and tested the accessories. Thank you in advance.
I would definitely suggest the oem screen guard and mud flaps. If you have family members who find it difficult to get into the vehicle then the Mahindra side step is miles ahead of aftermarket options (twice the cost as well!). Apart from that, nothing is really needed. Mats you can put from outside as the oem ones aren’t of great quality.
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Old 30th December 2024, 15:38   #11274
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I would definitely suggest the oem screen guard and mud flaps. If you have family members who find it difficult to get into the vehicle then the Mahindra side step is miles ahead of aftermarket options (twice the cost as well!). Apart from that, nothing is really needed. Mats you can put from outside as the oem ones aren’t of great quality.
Thank you @sumobom4 for the quick reply. How about the Rain visors? Do you suggest that? I stay in Mumbai, so its a heavy rainfall region
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Thank you @sumobom4 for the quick reply. How about the Rain visors? Do you suggest that? I stay in Mumbai, so its a heavy rainfall region
Hey, I’m in Thane too! Unless you’re someone who likes to keep their windows open a lot which is frankly difficult given the pollution, I’d suggest skipping the visors. The plastic used is not great and scratches easily, and they also create wind noise at high speeds based on anecdotal evidence from friends.
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Bought a brand new XUV700 (quite late to share it)

My father bought a 2024 XUV 700 AX7 Diesel Automatic. The notion of buying a car was existing for almost a year. We only got serious on 10th July when both Mahindra and Tata announced huge price reductions. Next day, on 11th, went on to car dealerships to test drive the XUV 700 AND Tata Safari. Almost took us 2 months to decide. It was a stressful process. Before and in between the whole process, explored a lot of used cars but I was keen on buying a new one as we will be using it for a long term. Booked XUV 700 on 16th September and got delivery of a fresh October manufactured car on 12th October, 2024.

Used Cars that came across:
Creta E/SX/SX(O): lots of Creta out their for resale. My dad likes it but just too many of it on the road. Also, test drove the latest 2024 facelift SX Manual earlier this year, loved the car. Made a decision to go for a 7 seater.
Harrier XZA+: rejected because of the hydraulic power steering, the newer one with the electronic power steering is too good. This lead us to consider newer Safari.
ScorpioN Z8L: rejected because of outdated interiors and height of the car, fun to drive though.

Petrol vs Diesel
Petrol was always out of the scene because of the average. We booked a used 2022 Kia Carens 1.4 Petrol DCT with a mileage of just 6000 kms as we got a crazy deal. However, I was not convinced with a Petrol Carens because of the DCT, average and resale value. We already have a 2022 Kia Carens Diesel Manual in the family.

I was convinced on the XUV 700 over Safari because of the following reasons:
  1. It has been 3 years since its launch, so the long term performance of the car is positive.
  2. Unit sales of July/August speak of its popularity over Safari. Earlier, XUV700 : Safari unit sales were 3:1 but after discount in July,2024 it was 5:1.
  3. The 2.2 L mHawk Turbo Diesel with CRDe with AT transmission produces the max torque of 450 Nm [even with the same engine in Scorpio N (2.2 litre Diesel Gen II mHawk -400 Nm) and Roxx (2.2 L mHawk Diesel -370 Nm), the torque produced are lesser] and the Safari with its 2.0 L Kryotec manages 167 BHP Power and only 350 Nm torque (Fiat sourced Multijet engine also used in Harrier, MG Hector, Jeep Compass and Jeep Meridian)
  4. Safari has broader A pillar which blocks the view + cramped front row due to its weird dashboard design. However, the second and third low are quite luxurious and spacious than XUV 700.
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Hey, I’m in Thane too! Unless you’re someone who likes to keep their windows open a lot which is frankly difficult given the pollution, I’d suggest skipping the visors. The plastic used is not great and scratches easily, and they also create wind noise at high speeds based on anecdotal evidence from friends.
Wind noise point is valid ,so is the quality part but if you live in region of heavy rain, you would thank yourself each time you pull out for collecting a Parking slip or dropping money for parking.

Other than ,i haven’t found a practical use case.
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Hey, I’m in Thane too! Unless you’re someone who likes to keep their windows open a lot which is frankly difficult given the pollution, I’d suggest skipping the visors. The plastic used is not great and scratches easily, and they also create wind noise at high speeds based on anecdotal evidence from friends.
Hey, nice to know that you are in Thane too. I didn't notice that in your profile earlier. I had heard that rain visors do prevent lot of rusting in the door joints since they prevent rain water seeping in through the cracks, hence asked. Will keep that in mind.
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Old 30th December 2024, 19:29   #11279
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

Hello People,

Continuing with XUV700 accessories queries, I am eagerly awaiting the delivery of my vehicle and have a couple of questions:

The dealer mentioned that side foot steps help prevent scratches from other vehicles. Do side foot steps genuinely help in keeping vehicles, especially bikers and auto-rickshaws, at a safe distance and protect the car from scratches?

What about the rear bumper steel/iron guard? Does it provide any practical benefits? Considering the OEM guard is priced at ₹6,000, is it worth the investment?

Looking forward to your insights!
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I feel the irritant with Auto Stop Start (ASS) is more prominent with A/T.

I feel Mahindra should allow the timing for ASS to be configured or at least delay a bit more in A/T.
This is a great feature but worst logic implemented for AT variants. It kicks in when break is applied and speedometer clocks 0kmph, but problem is that we have to keep the break pressed. If we relax right leg little or if we move the gear to N engine kicks in. Holding break for so long brings pain to the leg.

Looks like M&M released this feature in a hurry without testing. They didn’t use minimum common sense

I drove xuv500 W8 (M) for 10+ years with this same feature, no issue at all.

They should seriously consider to recall this feature and fix it.

Probably by changing a simple logic it can be resolved “ASS should kick-in when vehicle comes to standstill and break is released with gear engaged in Drive Mode”.
M&M may able to check feasibility of this solution.

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