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Originally Posted by porsche_guy
Well it clearly does not seem so going by the sales figures |
Sorry, I didn't get your point. Do you mean VW/Skoda has good sales figure even with lesser features?
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Because not every regular average Joe (which is 99% of the market) cares about the steering feel and the chassis stiffness. What matters to most is how convenient, reliable, fuss free and fuel efficient the car is.
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Yes, I agree with you. I was just point out two different category of buyers.
Because, feature list is the strength of Koreans and to some point Maruti Suzuki. Not Citroen, Jeep, Ford or Toyota or even Honda.
If they try to provide all the features, the price will go above and beyond in the segment range. Or they compromise on their strengths.
Skoda has already compromised with its interior quality ( as per VAG standards ). Even Creta and Seltos do not provide all the features of each other.
We already see pricing of Jeep Compass and Citroen C5 aircross with full feature list.
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A contradiction on your part, but nevertheless a true statement.
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I didn't mean to judge Koreans. They are providing a very good package that more than 90% of the buyers want.
My point is that we shouldn't judge the VW/Skoda as well.
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Please explain us how do you conclude that? The Kushaq has not been crash tested yet and there is simply no scientific data to prove that it's more safer than the Koreans(and consequently more unsafe)
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Agree. No NCAP results so far.
But when a Korean car is launched, you know it will be full of features.
When a Honda / Toyota car is launched, you know it will be reliable.
Similarly, when a VW/Skoda is launched, you know it will have better fit and finish, be safer and have better driving dynamics.
Also as GTO had mentioned ( from reliable sources ), it will be 4 star.
Although, Skoda do have disappointed with the interiors and with the 2 Airbags in AT version. But, I believe this will be corrected ( with subsequent price increase ).
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This is an Apples to Oranges comparison. The Polo is an entirely different car and competes with an entirely different set of cars as well. There is simply no correlation that can be established in terms of safety(or lack thereof)
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Again, Polo and Fabia were completely different cars that too from a different era. I would still advise you to go test drive the Kushaq and Taigun and have an in depth look at both before coming to any sort of conclusion on how they feel or drive.
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Is it? I believe they all belong to B-Segment (Small Hatchbacks).
And when I bought Polo, Fabia was also being sold in the same segment.
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Such as? (Am genuinely curious)
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Well, Jeep Compass does boost of 50+ safety features.
Although it includes few like DRLs, side indicators etc which are basic.
The below post provides good details on this.
Red Phoenix - My Used Jeep Compass Limited (D) MT : An Ownership Review Quote:
Well aren't they in the same segment? And if not sales then how do you expect a mass market manufacturer to churn out profits?
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VAG said they are just targeting 5% of the Indian market for now. Maybe in future they will try to be a mass market manufacturer in India. But not as of now.
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I am a VW owner and absolutely love my car to the bits. I had a very in depth, thorough look at the Kushaq yesterday and if there is one thing I can say, it's that it's a very watered down version in terms of quality compared to their previous cars. I am slightly disappointed as well and don't think it will be a proper replacement (let alone an upgrade) to my Vento.
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Agree, Kushaq does disappoints in terms of interior quality as compared to previous VAG cars.
But, in terms of driving dynamics, it still is good. I am not saying that all ex-VW/Skoda owners will opt for it. But this is a major category of buyers who would opt for Taigun/Kushaq.
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Again, contradiction on your part. If you believe it will consistently do 5k units a month, then those cars will definitely not vanish into thin air right?
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Like I mentioned "Not so common". Even 1-2 years later, when you compare with number of Koreans on road, VW/Skoda will be the "Not so common" one.
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Originally Posted by aniketi Kushaq is competition to cars like S-cross, Ford EcoSport, Tata Nexon etc. and definitely not with likes of Creta or Seltos. Those are bigger cars. From side it looks quite similar S-cross. It definitely don't have SUV looks which is very disappointing. |
I don't quite agree with this point. Yes, maybe it is similar in dimensions with S-cross. But comparing it with Ecosport or Nexon is not right.
As all reviews have mentioned, Kushaq is in segment with the Korean Twins, Duster, Kicks etc
Also, VW/Skoda doesn't build cars with SUV-ish ( like we Indians think ) size. If you compare with Tata Harrier, even VW Tiguan is lesser in height.
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Originally Posted by Behemoth 4) Coming to interiors , this is where Skoda has gone on whole hog cost cutting mode and there are many areas where the cost cutting is extremely evident and makes the interiors look tacky and Cheap:
a) Seats of both the Ambition Variant (Cloth ones) are absolutely pathetic and fabric is already wrinkled and looks like it will tear very soon (on a new car) Attachment 2176384 Attachment 2176391
For the Style Variant, it is poorly fitted cheap quality fake leather and it totally does not feel like it belongs on the inside of a Skoda. Even the Rapids in the showroom had 10 times better seats which looked rich and well fitted and the material was much more Durable. Skoda kind of expects everyone to buy their overpriced Seat Covers once they are available so that they can make some extra side money.
b) The AC vents in the front are really tacky and plasticky like others have also noticed |
It is really disappointing to see the cost cutting in interior quality. I hope VAG take feedback and improve these with actual VAG standards.
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e) The Sunroof in the style variant has exposed mechanisms which simply look EEKY..!
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Originally Posted by prajwalmr62 This might be the most commonly raised complaint, but I don't see it? Looks like the same unit in Venue/Sonet/Seltos to me. What am I missing? |
Yes, I have the same question. My Honda city also has similar exposed mechanisms. Can you give reference of any car with single sunroof and concealed mechanism? Just for my future reference.
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Coming to the Boot space, I did the actual Measurements and here they are: Attachment 2176385
As per my calculations, the boot space comes to around 336L + 8L niche on Left = 344L, which is decent and definitely larger than that of the Creta.
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I was actually waiting for this
So, Skoda has mentioned the actual usable boot space. 385L vs 344L is a very minor difference.