2021 Tata Safari Review

Patro · 17th June 2021, 23:40

I booked my Safari XZI - Tropical Mist on June 9, 2021 as soon as my SA told me that a Safari XZI - Tropical Mist was readily available. I dismissed it as sales talk but nonetheless I went ahead and paid a token amount to book the vehicle.

And yesterday (16th June) it finally happened!!! I got to see my beauty and beast all rolled into one sweet ride!!!

Now that terrible wait period begins as we wait for RTO Gods and Dealer's minions to get the car registered.

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Originally Posted by NitSat

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Thank you Nitsat for sharing this information.

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Originally Posted by El_Profesor

I would suggest that you go to the yard and not make any payments till you know that you have been given a clean car. I am going to visit the showroom once more before the delivery date just to ensure that no damages have occurred in transit from Bhiwandi to Prabhadevi.

Hope this helps

Thanks El_Profesor. This certainly helped. I asked my SA to send pics of the car from Bhiwandi yard along with close-up pic of VIN. Only then did I give a small DP and asked him to get it to Mumbai where I did a physical inspection before making further payment.

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Originally Posted by ulhas.ahirrao

Please check at Sion Accessories market - I got 7D mats for my Endeavour at 4500 bucks. Very good quality.

Thanks Ulhas. I will certainly check them out. Is there a specific shop you would like to recommend?

NitSat · 18th June 2021, 08:19

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Originally Posted by Patro

And yesterday (16th June) it finally happened!!! I got to see my beauty and beast all rolled into one

Congratulations. That is real quick. Wishing you a hassle free delivery and great rides with your new beauty.

aks_karthik · 18th June 2021, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Patro

I booked my Safari XZI - Tropical Mist on June 9,

Congrats Patro for your new addition.
But what is XZI variant, is it XZ+ or any new variant has launched?
Tropical Mist color is good in normal version as well though it's special color for Adventure version as of now.

locusjag · 18th June 2021, 10:05

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Originally Posted by locusjag

A request to all 2021 Safari owners:

Please confirm if the car's ground clearance is enough when fully loaded. The fully laden GC is 143 mm, 10 mm lesser than its 5 seater counterpart's. What does this translate to in real life, since the numbers don't tell the real story? Ground clearance also depends on the wheelbase, suspension tune etc.

Ahem, anybody, pretty please? I'm curious how a fully laden GC of 143 mm satisfies so many buyers for a SUV - and I'm not being derisive here. I've wondered for long, what ground clearance is and how it comes to be, beyond the actual GC figures...whatever insights anyone provides will be helpful.

aks_karthik · 18th June 2021, 19:06

Hi All,

I just had a TD with 7 adults on board and driven in all kind of roads and some off road sections too. Everyone felt comfortable and no where it hit the bottom with fully loaded.

Engine pull/power is too good and with sports mode ON, it's another beast totally. I haven't felt any power needed even in eco mode.

one observation. I was able to connect my iPhone 11 Pro wirelessly with Safari Apple car play and it functioned smoothly.
most of the applications are available too.

Driveability is good and seats are comfy including 3rd row seats.

For my requirements, it's very well fit to T. 6 seats and luggage space

Sreejith V · 18th June 2021, 21:19

Two queries related to Safari Infotainment system
1. What is the latest version of software?
2. I checked Safari XZA+ and one thing I noticed is, the infotainment system stays ON even after I switched OFF the vehicle using the push button. The system was switched OFF only after I opened the driver side door. Is it the normal working?

CoffeeBeans · 18th June 2021, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Sreejith V

Two queries related to Safari Infotainment system
1. What is the latest version of software?
2. I checked Safari XZA+ and one thing I noticed is, the infotainment system stays ON even after I switched OFF the vehicle using the push button. The system was switched OFF only after I opened the driver side door. Is it the normal working?

1. Latest version is R16.09 if I remember correctly.
2. This is normal behavior. It shuts off after driver exits. MID stays on for few seconds after locking the car.

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Originally Posted by locusjag

Ahem, anybody, pretty please? I'm curious how a fully laden GC of 143 mm satisfies so many buyers for a SUV - and I'm not being derisive here.

I can explain from my pov- not everyone is looking to buy a SUV to do offroading 24x7. You can call these pseudo suvs or whatever but lower GC means ingress-egress is easier and car handles better as center of gravity is lower. As long as its sufficient to handle rough roads and potholes, most buyers will be ok with lower GC with these trade-offs.

locusjag · 19th June 2021, 12:29

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Originally Posted by CoffeeBeans

I can explain from my pov- not everyone is looking to buy a SUV to do offroading 24x7. You can call these pseudo suvs or whatever but lower GC means ingress-egress is easier and car handles better as center of gravity is lower. As long as its sufficient to handle rough roads and potholes, most buyers will be ok with lower GC with these trade-offs.

I'm not an off roading person myself; the reason I would seek good laden GC in a SUV is to avoid situations where the car becomes a liability by beaching itself like a whale on a road hump or speed breaker. Those are strong words, I know, but I've been there before. So anyway, 143 mm of laden GC does seem enough for the 2021 Safari. Noted.

I've been forming theories in my mind as to what ground clearance is really about and which factors affect it...

CoffeeBeans · 19th June 2021, 13:43

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Originally Posted by locusjag

I've been forming theories in my mind as to what ground clearance is really about and which factors affect it...

Experts can weigh in, but I believe GC is impacted by lot of factors- mainly chassis type (Ladder ones are usually higher than Monocoque), Wheel size /Tire profile and suspension setup. But GC is only one of the factors to consider for off-roading others are wheel articulation, approach/departure angles and ofcourse 4x4 and differential setups.

Maybe a good idea for a dedicated thread on Technical Stuff.

locusjag · 19th June 2021, 14:14

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Originally Posted by CoffeeBeans

Maybe a good idea for a dedicated thread on Technical Stuff.

Definitely a good idea and I've been meaning to write something on it and also elicit our members' knowledge on the topic. And I'm not even a 4x4 guy.

I've seen owners of the lower variants of the Marazzo lament their lower GC due to the lower diameter wheels; but they definitely get to enjoy better ride comfort due to the higher aspect ratios of the smaller tyres. There's definitely a trade off involved in GC versus comfort; I would personally seek both but who am I kidding?

Big_Turbo · 19th June 2021, 15:55

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Originally Posted by locusjag

I'm not an off roading person myself; the reason I would seek good laden GC in a SUV is to avoid situations where the car becomes a liability by beaching itself like a whale on a road hump or speed breaker.

I Have to agree with you. I have been in a situation where the 530d we were in (en route to goa) just sat itself on a speed breaker in Davangere. We were able to move it only when 3 of my friends got off the car. It was only 4 of us in the car

IMHO- customers would definitely settle for an SUV with 160mm GC.

locusjag · 19th June 2021, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Big_Turbo

I Have to agree with you. I have been in a situation where the 530d we were in (en route to goa) just sat itself on a speed breaker in Davangere. We were able to move it only when 3 of my friends got off the car. It was only 4 of us in the car

IMHO- customers would definitely settle for an SUV with 160mm GC.

Exactly! That situation when you have to ask the passengers to get off so that you can un-beach the whale is one of the worst feelings I've ever experienced in my erstwhile Swift! The GC matters a whole lot more for 3 row people carriers. I can imagine my horror when I have to ask 6 or 7 of my passengers to get off so I can un-beach the whale!

condor · 19th June 2021, 18:54

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Originally Posted by CoffeeBeans

Maybe a good idea for a dedicated thread on Technical Stuff.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ally-need.html (Ground Clearance: How much do you really need?)

aks_karthik · 19th June 2021, 20:42

I have a doubt, whether power seats can be down or up without going backward or forward.
whenever i try to down the seats, it simply downs and going backward, the same for ups and going forward.
I am unable to simply up or down the seats alone without forward or backward motion.
whether i have controlled the power seats button wrongly.
Any assistance is appreciated....

El_Profesor · 19th June 2021, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Patro

And yesterday (16th June) it finally happened!!! I got to see my beauty and beast all rolled into one sweet ride!!!

Now that terrible wait period begins as we wait for RTO Gods and Dealer's minions to get the car registered.

Thanks El_Profesor. This certainly helped. I asked my SA to send pics of the car from Bhiwandi yard along with close-up pic of VIN. Only then did I give a small DP and asked him to get it to Mumbai where I did a physical inspection before making further payment.

Congratulations! That was super quick

I’m on hold too because of the RTO issues. Apparently, RTO is taking things digital and cutting the agents out but as usual, no one has a clue about the process. I’ve been told that the next update is due on Mon/Tues and hopefully the delivery will happen by the end of the week.

Insurance - Done
Choice number - Done
FASTag - Done
Car - Missing

18th June 2021, 19:06	#980
aks_karthik Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,949 Thanked: 342 Times View My Garage	Re: 2021 Tata Safari Review Hi All, I just had a TD with 7 adults on board and driven in all kind of roads and some off road sections too. Everyone felt comfortable and no where it hit the bottom with fully loaded. Engine pull/power is too good and with sports mode ON, it's another beast totally. I haven't felt any power needed even in eco mode. one observation. I was able to connect my iPhone 11 Pro wirelessly with Safari Apple car play and it functioned smoothly. most of the applications are available too. Driveability is good and seats are comfy including 3rd row seats. For my requirements, it's very well fit to T. 6 seats and luggage space
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18th June 2021, 21:19	#981
Sreejith V BHPian Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Kochi Posts: 56 Thanked: 189 Times	Re: 2021 Tata Safari Review Two queries related to Safari Infotainment system 1. What is the latest version of software? 2. I checked Safari XZA+ and one thing I noticed is, the infotainment system stays ON even after I switched OFF the vehicle using the push button. The system was switched OFF only after I opened the driver side door. Is it the normal working?
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19th June 2021, 20:42	#989
aks_karthik Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,949 Thanked: 342 Times View My Garage	6 way Power Seats I have a doubt, whether power seats can be down or up without going backward or forward. whenever i try to down the seats, it simply downs and going backward, the same for ups and going forward. I am unable to simply up or down the seats alone without forward or backward motion. whether i have controlled the power seats button wrongly. Any assistance is appreciated....
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