[Rodie09]

Thanks for your replies guys on the topic of 'Parking brake engaged in dynamic condition'

I am leaning to agree with CARDEEP that perhaps one needs to move to neutral, engage parking brake and then move to P. The message does look like a warning else why would they put effort if it was just a normal thing.

Few more thoughts on this:

1. Why do I not see this every time (or may be it does), even though I am following same steps? I need to keep an eye on the consistency and occurrence pattern.

2. Isn't the Auto Hold supposed to take care of this as mentioned by FLYBOYSID? In fact I keep Auto Hold always enabled and hardly touch the EPB button anytime, even when I am starting out and reversing from my parking bay. I just tap and let the Auto Hold disengage EPB based on my throttle input.

3.I always dread the accidental shift from D to P (manual hangover) that it can damage the Park pawl. Came close to doing so once in initial days of shift from manual to auto. Why is there no failsafe built into the design that you cant shift to P until vehicle is completely stopped. Is that a big deal?

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by kailashnj

No, I don't that.. I stop the car, move to P and then shut the engine.

I am new to automatics. I go from D/R to N, engage the hand brake and then to P. Subconsciously I got habituated like that. Never had any issues or warning prompts. Even in signal stops, it's N, handbrake and then P.

Not sure if that's ideal, but works for me.

[iskandariya]

Originally Posted by kailashnj

No, I don't that.. I stop the car, move to P and then shut the engine.

This is the only correct procedure, else one would be putting too much pressure on gearbox.

[mayuresh]

Originally Posted by kailashnj

No, I don't that.. I stop the car, move to P and then shut the engine.

I meant the same, actually I didn't mention stop explicitly. I do stop and then move to P, of course.

I realize one more thing: After moving to P, release the brake pedal before shutting down the engine. Otherwise you do get a warning. Has anyone else noticed this?

[Rodie09]

Guys, from the very beginning of ownership I get this buzzing sound on beats from the left rear door speaker of my XZA+. Initially i ignored but then I showed them during 6 months service. For the fear of not getting a bigger issue I did not insist on much to be done. However this noise is taking away the pleasure of my music listening. I just cannot un-hear it now. When I go to SA and try to demonstrate, it just doens't show up at the service centre. As soon as am out, it's back there with that buzzing. Tata folks have been less than enthusiastic to even acknowledge the issue.

I must add that the issue is more evident while driving. Hence the SC folks do not see (hear) the issue. Anyone else experienced the same? What can be the issue here . I am apprehensive about getting the door panels opened fearing rattles after refit. Car is less than 18 months and I presume this must be under warranty.

What should I do? Any thoughts?

[abhishek.vnit]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

I get this buzzing sound on beats from the left rear door speaker of my XZA+.

Originally Posted by Rodie09

When I go to SA and try to demonstrate, it just doens't show up at the service centre. As soon as am out, it's back there with that buzzing. Tata folks have been less than enthusiastic to even acknowledge the issue.
I must add that the issue is more evident while driving. Hence the SC folks do not see (hear) the issue.

Perhaps you can try the following:
1. Try the "Sound demo" option in settings to see if it helps identifying the culprit speakers. Service center will have a tough time explaining away a noise coming from the sound demo stored on their own system.
2. Try changing sound settings to select only back + left speaker in settings. This way, only that speaker is playing sound and any noises from that speaker will become easier to isolate.
3. With step 2, try different songs and different volumes till you are able to isolate the conditions that produce the noises and use that at the service center to show the issue.
4. If the above does not work, try disabling "speed dependent volume" from settings before your next drive to see if the buzzing sound is somehow related to speed. This step is because you seem to see the issue only when the car is moving. If it seems related, pump that setting to the maximum when you show it to the service advisor.
5. Just to ensure this is not something unrelated to the music system, have you tried driving with nothing playing on the music system?
6. Also, if you set the volume to a high value (and have nothing playing), do you still hear the buzz?

[Rodie09]

Originally Posted by abhishek.vnit

Perhaps you can try the following:
1. Try the "Sound demo" option in settings to see if it helps identifying the culprit speakers. Service center will have a tough time explaining away a noise coming from the sound demo stored on their own system.
2. Try changing sound settings to select only back + left speaker in settings. This way, only that speaker is playing sound and any noises from that speaker will become easier to isolate.
3. With step 2, try different songs and different volumes till you are able to isolate the conditions that produce the noises and use that at the service center to show the issue.
4. If the above does not work, try disabling "speed dependent volume" from settings before your next drive to see if the buzzing sound is somehow related to speed. This step is because you seem to see the issue only when the car is moving. If it seems related, pump that setting to the maximum when you show it to the service advisor.
5. Just to ensure this is not something unrelated to the music system, have you tried driving with nothing playing on the music system?
6. Also, if you set the volume to a high value (and have nothing playing), do you still hear the buzz?

Firstly, Thanks Abhishek for writing a detailed response with such good detail. My reply on each of the points below:

1. I never tried sound demo so thanks for bringing that up. I'll surely try.
2. I have tried isolating to the left rear set only but was not able to reproduce in service center.
3. Yes, I had the songs chosen but the issue didn't show up in stationary car.
4. I remember seeing this speed dependent volume setting but does this really work? I don't think the car has speed sensing volume control. I'd so much want it. I'll give this a try for sure.
5. Yes, I have driven with no music and this particular noise does not show up.
6. I'll give this a try and post back my experience.

The music system is otherwise great and is quite an experience on long drives on highway. Just that this issue, although minor, is taking a part of that away.

[Rodie09]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Hi All,

I own a Aug 2023 Safari XZA+ Adventure Persona. At 15 months and 14k, no major issues so far (touchwood). Car has been running great and brings me a smile every time I drive her, park her and look back.

Recently ( last 2-3 weeks ) I am noticing a sudden shudder/vibration and noise (ddrrr..) when I take a right angled turn into my parking at very low speeds. I have observed this to be more prominent on right side turning but may be because that's my case majority of times. To give some better visualization, it is happening when I turn the steering by around by a quarter or more of a turn.

Anyone experienced same and if so, what was the cause and resolution? Should I be worried and take to service center.

TIA

Checking this again here if anyone has had this issue? It seems to be becoming slightly more pronounced. Last time I went to TAMO the SM kept saying this is normal but I don't believe this. In any car it cannot be normal, does not matter which price bracket the car belongs to.

I will raise this in the 18 month service which is due in next 10 days. I fear they are going to keep the car longer for this and then come up with nothing.

[CARDEEP]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Checking this again here if anyone has had this issue? It seems to be becoming slightly more pronounced. Last time I went to TAMO the SM kept saying this is normal but I don't believe this. In any car it cannot be normal, does not matter which price bracket the car belongs to.

I will raise this in the 18 month service which is due in next 10 days. I fear they are going to keep the car longer for this and then come up with nothing.

Does not happen to me, unless the steering is fully turned. Part inputs are seam/ sound/ vibration-less in my case.

[aks_karthik]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Checking this again here if anyone has had this issue? It seems to be becoming slightly more pronounced. Last time I went to TAMO the SM kept saying this is normal but I don't believe this. In any car it cannot be normal, does not matter which price bracket the car belongs to.

I will raise this in the 18 month service which is due in next 10 days. I fear they are going to keep the car longer for this and then come up with nothing.

I am also facing the same issue and raised it with SC. it could be cos of low oil in steering or issue with steering pump. need to assess and replace the parts asap before the end of warranty.
if you find any solution, please share it here.

[Rodie09]

Thanks CARDEEP , AKS for your inputs.

I'll surely push the SA harder this time to diagnose and rectify this issue. Car is under 18 months as of now and has extended warranty until 5 years.

I will post an update once I am done with it. Fingers crossed.

[sparameswaran]

Learned something new about the Safari after more than two years (and 34000kms) of ownership

Sharing something about the car in case others find it useful.

After the car came back from cleaning, polishing etc at a car detailing centre, the warning alarm was blowing every time I locked the car. Simultaneously I will get a warning notification on my iRA app that 'door is open', asking me to close the door properly.

I checked all the doors and the boot multiple times and everything was properly closed. Still the warning alarm and notifications kept coming whenever I locked the car.

In addition, the car was refusing to open with the touch sensor on the door handle. It will lock, but will not unlock.
Also, the light inside the car will stay on for more than usual, once the car was locked.

I was perplexed and thought some sensor is malfunctioning and planned to take the car to the service center. The car detailing people denied having done anything which could have damaged any sensor.

Because I didn't get time to go to the service centre for three days I asked about this issue is a Tata Safari Telegram Group (The Safari Travellers of India).

Someone shared a similar experience few months back and he asked me to check whether the hood (bonnet) was closed properly, because that was what was givimg him trouble.

I checked my car, and that was indeed the problem!
After cleaning the car, the staff at the car detailing centre forgot to completely close the hood!
Once I closed the hood properly all the alarms and notifications stopped and the touch sensor was also working as ususal.

So, the car warns us if the hood is not closed properly. But there is no way to know that it is the hood and not any of the doors or the boot!

By the way, mine is a Safari Kaziranga Edition from August 2022 (Safari XZA+ KZR edition)

[Rodie09]

Originally Posted by aks_karthik

I am also facing the same issue and raised it with SC. it could be cos of low oil in steering or issue with steering pump. need to assess and replace the parts asap before the end of warranty.
if you find any solution, please share it here.

I got my 18 month minor service done last week. They acknowledged the momentary steering noise and vibration issue as I explained in my post above. They suspected air in system and to get rid they emptied the steering hydraulic system and replenished it with same fluid. On day 1 it felt like the issue is resolved for good. Although the next day I experienced it again, albeit on the left side this time and with much lower intensity. Overall, it is not as pronounced as it was earlier but for now keeping an eye on it.

@Karthik, if you are getting any different and better resolution please do post so that I can take a cue as well.