[rajismine]

Originally Posted by fusionbang

Thanks for the update. This is definitely a joke, why do they break things which is working in first place. These half baked products are really a nuisance. Will hold on to the current version, at least it is working as expected for now.

Does it work intermittently or completely broken?

completely broken. Let me share the video and you will see how disappointing this thing is

https://youtube.com/watch?v=S5ng7EZ4OOs

[rajismine]

here is more

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AwkkUv2QdEo

[rajismine]

I have been a very staunch fan of Tatas and been driving only Safaris since 2006. This time something made me feel that they have really upped the game. Little did i realise that we are 'The Game'

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4trM2EhGIeo?feature=share

[fusionbang]

That's horrific Did you try resetting the infotainment to see if it fixes the issue, like holding the mute button for 15 seconds and then holding the source button on the steering till the infotainment reboots.

I would suggest you to try rebooting, or do a factory reset once to see if that helps. Last resort, disconnect the negative terminal of the battery for some time and connect it back. Hope that resolves the issue to some extent.

[rajismine]

Originally Posted by fusionbang

That's horrific Did you try resetting the infotainment to see if it fixes the issue, like holding the mute button for 15 seconds and then holding the source button on the steering till the infotainment reboots.

I would suggest you to try rebooting, or do a factory reset once to see if that helps. Last resort, disconnect the negative terminal of the battery for some time and connect it back. Hope that resolves the issue to some extent.

Issue is not that.

The issue is the poor quality control and unreliable behaviour. I have escalated this to Tata Motors and they are acting funny. First they asked me chassis number. Then they started asking me RC book. Now they are asking me invoice, as if they want to prove I never bought the vehicle.

[wheelguy]

Originally Posted by rajismine

Issue is not that.

The issue is the poor quality control and unreliable behaviour. I have escalated this to Tata Motors and they are acting funny. First they asked me chassis number. Then they started asking me RC book. Now they are asking me invoice, as if they want to prove I never bought the vehicle.

Stupid of them, there's a reason behind that funny behavior, few individuals are posing themselves as owners of Tata cars and are complaining on social media, they were picking up photos or complaints of someone else and are posting as if they themselves are the troubled owners, this is causing a trouble for the company to discern between the original owners and imposters. The imposters are upping their ante to prove themselves as the real owners. I think, in your case, such instances may have made the person interacting with you to be skeptical.

From your signature, seems like you are Safari loyalist, hope they realize that and treat you well and solve your problem quickly, not just for you but for all their customers, they should provide better experience. They should improve in many aspects.

[rajismine]

Originally Posted by wheelguy

Stupid of them, there's a reason behind that funny behavior, few individuals are posing themselves as owners of Tata cars and are complaining on social media, they were picking up photos or complaints of someone else and are posting as if they themselves are the troubled owners, this is causing a trouble for the company to discern between the original owners and imposters. The imposters are upping their ante to prove themselves as the real owners. I think, in your case, such instances may have made the person interacting with you to be skeptical.

From your signature, seems like you are Safari loyalist, hope they realize that and treat you well and solve your problem quickly, not just for you but for all their customers, they should provide better experience. They should improve in many aspects.

I created some noise on this and my issue was take up immediately (at least the service is nothing short of excellent),

Here is what happened and there is a learning for all owners perhaps:

1.) The infotainment software was updated from V14.27 to 15.96R. Looks like I was the first one to get this.

2.) While the infotainment itself got updated, It did not bind to the chassis number of the car.

3.) Hence while the music etc. was functional, the system was not able to communicate with the car anymore particularly security related systems like ADAS, 360 camera etc.

4.) They did the binding and sorted out all issues.

Learning - if you have ADAS car, you cannot change parts anymore since they will have a different software binding to the original VIN. Even buying parts off the shelf won't do any good until you go to the service center and do the binding.

All in all, so far looks like the issue is sorted. Yes I am a staunch supporter of Safari - this is all I have driven in my life and whatever car I may have in future, I will always have one Safari. I hope that Tata takes people like us seriously and give a trouble free vehicle from day 1.

Rajeev

[wheelguy]

Originally Posted by rajismine

I created some noise on this and my issue was take up immediately (at least the service is nothing short of excellent),

All in all, so far looks like the issue is sorted. Yes I am a staunch supporter of Safari - this is all I have driven in my life and whatever car I may have in future, I will always have one Safari. I hope that Tata takes people like us seriously and give a trouble free vehicle from day 1.

Rajeev

Good to know that your issue is sorted. Seems like I went off on a completely different tangent, so the reason for asking chassis number and RC is to bind that with the infotainment system, but still they could have pulled those details from their database, may be they asked you for cross-checking. Safari Red Dark is an excellent choice and new infotainment is a significant upgrade from the previous one especially the camera quality, enjoy the ride, congratulations on your new car.

[fusionbang]

Originally Posted by rajismine

They did the binding and sorted out all issues

Great to know the issue is all sorted. This was supposed to be done in the first place, when they did the software update instead of pushing the customer into stress and anxiety. Thanks for regular updates Rajeev, which should be helpful for all the Safari owners out there, including me.

Would definitely love to hear your experience with the new version after few days of usage.

Also, all these issues will be forgiven once you get into the car and start driving Wish you many more happy miles without any niggles.

[Kkumar]

Hi friends,
I bought a Tata Safari XZA+ Dark Edition 2023 model just two weeks back. Today I got a call from Tata motors service centre and they asked me bring my car at the earliest as they have received a circular from Tata Motors to check all new Tata Safari for the fitment of “High Pressure Pump”. I would like to if anyone else in this forum has received similar calls.

[Rodie09]

Friends,

Am on the lookout for a 6 seater (can be 7 seater too) and want to be upgrading from a Verna Fluidic (I just love it despite its few shortcomings).

There are very limited choices in the market that are practical 6-7 seater and appeal to the heart as well. I am no fan of MPVs and therefore the only choice remains is the SUV segment and boils down to two main contenders that appeal to the heart. XUV700, and New Safari.

XUV700 was test driven and liked by family but the long wait is a big downer. Safari has also become quite refined, although loses out in many areas to XUV 700, but somehow pulls my heart more - perhaps the brand or the more SUVIsh charachter without much drama.

Test drove the automatic variant although I am more of a manual transmission guy. Enjoyed the ease and convenience but missed the control and seamless shifting of gears. Could feel the lag and spikes in engine RPM everytime the gear shifts.

Wanted to test drive manual to see how difficult it can be as I had read many reviews about the heavy clutch.
Honestly, despite coming from a refined sedan I did not find it difficult driving this beast around in the city traffic in its manual avatar either.
However, there was one bit which really felt like a deal breaker for me as far as manual is concerned. Hence the question to the manual owners -

There is a dead pedal but it is as bad as not having one. Firstly the dead pedal is super narrow and secondly (more importantly) there is not enough space between the clutch pedal and the panel on left to freely move my shoe around. Every time I tried, my shoe would scrape on both sides before coming down to the dead pedal. This is really a big issue for me and despite all the bells and whistles, I found the problem in ABC of a manual vehicle.

Is it just me or others also felt same? Honestly, am feeling bad to ditch the vehicle for such a small thing but it is significant. I wonder did no one at Tata test such fundamentals properly?

What do you guys think?

[shantanumishra]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

There are very limited choices in the market that are practical 6-7 seater and appeal to the heart as well. I am no fan of MPVs and therefore the only choice remains is the SUV segment and boils down to two main contenders that appeal to the heart. XUV700, and New Safari.
much drama.

Test drove the automatic variant although I am more of a manual transmission guy. Enjoyed the ease and convenience but missed the control and seamless shifting of gears. Could feel the lag and spikes in engine RPM everytime the gear shifts.

What do you guys think?

I was too in the same dilemma and had actually booked XUV700 2 months ago with a promise of delivery in 6 months.

Then, I had to come to Hometown and TD'ed the Safari and this is where actually started noting down all the differences. The new Safari is actually really good in terms of practical and useful features and in my view, scores above the XUV700.

Yes, the Diesel engine in XUV is more powerful, but its also about 200 Kgs heavier and hence, Safari's Power to Weight ratio is better.

In terms of features, the only 2 incremental features in XUV's ADAS are Lane Keep Assist and Adaptive Cruise Control, remove these and both ADAS are same, infact, Safari has 2 additional rear Radars as compared to XUV. Additionally, XUV gets better Headlights, Sliding front arm rest and EPS whereas Safari has Hydraulic steering.

Coming to practical features, Safari has both front seats as ventilated (and in 6S version, even middle row seats are ventilated), the front passsenger seat is electrically adjustable (including electric boss mode), it has Auto Day/Night IRVM and middle row is slidable (both 6S and 7S) plus reclinable. The new music system and Instrument cluster is now at par with XUV, both digital and almost same size.

Ride Quality in both is better, though Safari was a bit more comfortable for me.

Couple of more practical features include better positioning of AC vents in middle row and 3rd row (on pillars), more charging points in all rows as compared to XUV and 3 different buttons for sun-roof operations. I have extensively tested these in both cars and while I had to time my button usage in XUV (since same button is used for all 3 funtions), it was never an issue in Safari.

One more ergonomic issue in XUV, the middle seat arm rest has 2 cup holders aligned on the length side thereby causing elbow pain while Safari has traditional location of cup holders spread in width thereby giving crucial space for your elbows to rest.

After all this, Icing on the cake is the beautiful Dark Editions and delivery in probably 2-3 weeks.

Regaring Manual or Auto, I would strongy suggest Automatic (despite having owned both manual and Auto cars in last 23 years), you can still use the Automatic in a manual mode but not the opposite, With growing traffic situation and our ages, Automatics should be the route.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Is it just me or others also felt same? Honestly, am feeling bad to ditch the vehicle for such a small thing but it is significant. I wonder did no one at Tata test such fundamentals properly?

What do you guys think?

As far as Safari is concerned, Please don't buy the MT, in a year's time you'll regret it. AT does the job well and makes the vehicle much more easy to live with.

If your Verna is diesel , you need to keep in mind that MJD is not as polished as the CRDi, it's a good highway cruiser , returns good FE on steady highway driving.

[r24x7]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Test drove the automatic variant although I am more of a manual transmission guy.

Go for the automatic if you are zeroing in on the Safari. There is no turning back.

If not having a manual is a deal breaker, then I suggest you go for the xuv700 that has better driving ergonomics, specifically the manual transmission.

[Rodie09]

Thanks @shantanumishra, @Kosfactor, @r24x7 for your valuable inputs and feedback.

This has at least helped me make up my mind to give up on the Safari Manual. The minor antics of the automatic are more livable for sure.

It'll have to be the Safari XZA+ Adventure in Orcus White for me then because of the liking for blackened exterior bits and alloys, less chrome and the 'in the middle' beige interiors.

I am going to check out XUV 700 as well as that offers AX7 Auto at a somewhat lower price point with many pluses one cant ignore. Also, dealer has told wait is 6-7 months but am taking it with a lot of salt

Safari wait will be only few weeks at max but there is a price hike from 17th July