[TurboPetrol150]

Guys what sort of mileage are you able to get from your petrol Thars? Mine is a Petrol Manual and I am able to get around 7-8(not MID figures) even in city traffic with a bit of patience (not very high but moderate city traffic) in Delhi and I expect it to go up to at least 10kmpl+ on highway runs even with a bit of enthusiastic driving.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by TurboPetrol150

Guys what sort of mileage are you able to get from your petrol Thars? Mine is a Petrol Manual and I am able to get around 7-8(not MID figures) even in city traffic with a bit of patience (not very high but moderate city traffic) in Delhi and I expect it to go up to at least 10kmpl+ on highway runs even with a bit of enthusiastic driving.

Cross posting this from my post on the RWD Thar thread.
@Dippy you may also want to add your input.
Hi
Specific to your comment on FE.
I have a 4x4 Petrol AT Thar. Almost 3 years old.
Honestly, it gives 8-9 in city.
Goes up to 10 -12 on highways
Best I got was 13.

Depends entirely on how you drive. Whether in heavy stop start traffic etc.

[TurboPetrol150]

Hi @shankar.balan thanks for the quick reply.

It seems like we are getting very good mileage from our respective Thars. Not only that, according to my calculations the Petrol Thars are cheaper than their Diesel variants (with the equivalent transmissions) up to the first 10k kms or so due to the 70-80k price difference between them with fuel costs and even a few accessories added on. Well, this is what I come up with as reply to one of my fellow colleagues at work who owns a Diesel Auto and pulls my leg claiming that a rugged go anywhere offroader ought to be a DIESEL.

[Dippy]

Originally Posted by TurboPetrol150

Guys what sort of mileage are you able to get from your petrol Thars? Mine is a Petrol Manual and I am able to get around 7-8(not MID figures) even in city traffic with a bit of patience (not very high but moderate city traffic) in Delhi and I expect it to go up to at least 10kmpl+ on highway runs even with a bit of enthusiastic driving.

I daily drive a Thar petrol 4x4 AT. My daily default running is 60 km.

My FE figures are tank to tank full at first cutoff (not from MID):

I am getting 9.8 to 9.9 kmpl consistently. This is in moderate traffic.

The worst I have got so far is 8.9 kmpl when I was in dense traffic.

Hope this helps

[strawmUnkey]

I drive a 4x4 Diesel HT. Gives me 8kpl in heavy Bangalore Traffic (max speed 20kph), and 11.5kpl on Highway (cruise at 100kph).

I feel sad seeing the Petrol numbers everyone is posting.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by strawmUnkey

I drive a 4x4 Diesel HT. Gives me 8kpl in heavy Bangalore Traffic (max speed 20kph), and 11.5kpl on Highway (cruise at 100kph).

I feel sad seeing the Petrol numbers everyone is posting.

I don't understand this comment about sadness. My mileage in my Petrol Thar AT HT for example is just as good as your Diesel. I also believe in driving my Thar enjoyably at 90-110kmph range with Cruise Control on, on the highways.

[Turbolove]

Originally Posted by strawmUnkey

I drive a 4x4 Diesel HT. Gives me 8kpl in heavy Bangalore Traffic (max speed 20kph), and 11.5kpl on Highway (cruise at 100kph).

Thats really low for a diesel. Your city mileage is close to what I got in my D AT in similar mumbai traffic. However on the highway I easily get 12-13kmpl at 100kmph, I usually cruise at 90 and that gets me around 14-15kmpl comfortably.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

I don't understand this comment about sadness. My mileage in my Petrol Thar AT HT for example is just as good as your Diesel. I also believe in driving my Thar enjoyably at 90-110kmph range with Cruise Control on, on the highways.

StrawmUnkey is feeling sad that your petrol is doing better than the diesel that person owns.

I think you are a saint behind the wheel

The guys who drive their Thars as daily drivers are seen well north of speed limit - all the time - especially the fellows who have access to nice highways like that of TN, it's just unpleasant to drive it slowly - naturally one can expect single digit diesel FE even on highways. In terms of smiles per gallon, I guess you cannot put a price on that.

Our CRDe also runs at single digit over a 600 km trip - nothing wrong with it, just the nut behind the wheel.

[ak10]

Hi, I have been on a trail with my thar 4x4 couple of days back. This trail had a variety of terrains. Mostly muddy, slushy or lose gravel and even shallow river crossing. There were section that needs 4L and parts that only needs 4H (and some even 2H with a bit of struggle). But there were few places where I had to cross small bridges and sections where few meters are concrete surfaced. This is where I am confused. Should I stop and switch to 2H to cross these high traction surfaces? Or is it ok to just keep it in 4 wheel mode and keep going? I never use 4x4 on tarmac or any other high traction surfaces otherwise. Thanks in advance.

[TurboPetrol150]

Originally Posted by ak10

Should I stop and switch to 2H to cross these high traction surfaces? Or is it ok to just keep it in 4 wheel mode and keep going? I never use 4x4 on tarmac or any other high traction surfaces otherwise. Thanks in advance.

I guess you should never ever engage 4x4 when you are driving through normal paved roads that do not require the use of 4wd as it may cause unnecessary wear on the components such as the transmission, transfer case and maybe even the differential. But for short stretches of a couple of 100mtrs where after crossing you may need to engage 4x4 again anyway, it wont be much of a problem.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

I think you are a saint behind the wheel

RDe also runs at single digit over a 600 km trip - nothing wrong with it, just the nut behind the wheel.

Im certainly no saint. But here are some two bits in case anyone is interested.

In my Thar, I drive around or within the 110 mark on highways and use cruise control a great deal. Whether in city or highways I dont ‘stomp’ and stay ‘stomped’. I use the gentle acceleration and deceleration method because it is just much better for the vehicle and the comfort of those within. Plus it has aerodynamics like a square-block so there is no point in trying to do high speeds or harsh acceleration sprints in it. For the 120kmph kind of drives best use a more suitable car.
Whatever it is, for what it is worth, with the correct driving technique, correct loading of vehicle and correct tyre pressures, along with proper care and maintenance, the Thar (petrol or diesel) will return reasonable mileage.
Yes, I also love the ‘whoosh’ of acceleration that the Thar gives and do indulge this once in a while, but that burns gas big time. So with the addition of the throttle controller/ enhancer which I just installed a couple days ago and wrote about on a separate thread, I believe the mileage may improve a little because the overall efficiencies of transmission of impulses to the ECU has improved. I will test it over time and then share findings.

[TurboPetrol150]

Hi guys, a question I have regarding the drainage and insulation of the Thar.

I have seen in many offroad videos on YouTube that a person attempts water wading in a Thar through deep waters and in almost all such videos, if the car gets stuck or even if it goes through, water seems to enter the cabin and after crossing when they open the doors water comes out like a waterfall in large amounts.

Is this a common phenomenon that occurs in all vehicles or is it happening only to Thars because of poor insulation and drainage? I have myself experienced lots of extreme water crossings but only in cities where the surface below is well-paved tarmac and the vehicles were always in motion and not stuck for prolonged time and the cars were usually Toyotas, i.e Crystas and Fortuners, where there was never any concern of water seeping into the cabin.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by TurboPetrol150

Hi guys, a question I have regarding the drainage and insulation of the Thar. I have seen in many offroad videos on YouTube that a person attempts water wading in a Thar through deep waters and on almost.

If one were to consider the old Thar or MM540/550/ CL550/ Major and the Gypsy, it is very clear from my own experience that water can and will very easily enter the cabin from the doors and firewall area and sometimes even via the floorboards.

This has seen a marked mitigation in the new Thar and Jimny.

However, any car will experience water seepage if it goes through deep water. Water ingress can happen pretty easily through the chinks in the bottoms of the doors, small openings in the firewall which are there for accelerator lever, wiring harness and all. No car is a 100% water tight in that sense.

Saying that, the Water Wading Capacity of the new Thar is a very respectable 2 feet. In reality it is very possible/ probable that it can do more.

As an aside, it is never a good idea to attack a fast flowing stream because of the severe currents which can wash the vehicle away sideways or a seemingly dry river bed in the rainy season,because of sudden flash floods.

I personally would not advocate taking my go anywhere vehicle on a regular and consistent basis through deep water because it is a 100% foregone conclusion that water will enter the brake system, the differentials, the gear housing and lots of other places causing medium and long term damage to the components. It is very very important to drain, inspect, clean, care for and perform maintenance on the vehicle after EVERY water wading/ off roading session. Water in the world of nature also contains salts and mud and other debris. All of which are 100% detrimental to the vehicle.

In my growing up years we used to do all this stuff because my Father’s work required it. I do some of this now only when I volunteer my vehicle to be used at some friend’s place for utility work when I am visiting there. Traversing large tracts of natural land with natural obstacles is fine in the line of duty. Thats why I personally don't indulge in this new concept of purely ‘leisure time mud baths and water wading’ in my 4x4’s.

[ak10]

Took my Thar petrol 4x4 (2023 Feb MY) for 2nd service at 10k kms yesterday.

In addition to regular fluid and filter changes there was also an "ECU Flashing" done.

When asked the SA replied that the system flagged this update is required, and he didn't have any more details on what is the update for.

Is this standard for 10k km service? anyone know what is this update for?

Other issues addressed,

I was having metal clanking sound from all wheels while going over bad roads. SA said was due to some bushes getting lose due to offroading. Got them tightened and the sound is gone now.

Also, my boot door was getting stuck after driving for some distance. After it is stuck it will only open from inside. Once opened, it will work fine till i drive for some distance. They opened the up the latches and lubricated them and haven't faced the issue till now. Also they took a video of the door getting jammed and said if it happens again will get the entire latch assembly replaced under warranty.

Took the car to Thikkodi drive in beach (near calicut, kerala) after the service, pics below.

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by ak10

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Also, my boot door was getting stuck after driving for some distance. After it is stuck it will only open from inside. Once opened, it will work fine till i drive for some distance. They opened the up the latches and lubricated them and haven't faced the issue till now. Also they took a video of the door getting jammed and said if it happens again will get the entire latch assembly replaced under warranty.

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Was this happening with luggage or without luggage in the boot?

It usually happens to me when I have luggage (say, 2 cabin sized bags) which will not allow the central locking mechanism to open. When that happens, using the key to force it open or opening it from the inside are the only way.

If it's without a luggage in the boot, then it does seem to me a prob with the latch.