[k491]

Originally Posted by TN13Sleeper

Wish you had went ahead with coating. When PPFs are left unattended for 5+ years, the adhesive tends to react and form a strong bond with the surface.

Dear lord, that's appalling to look at. I'll have the PPF inspected regularly at 3M in the near future. When it shows early signs of permanent bonding I'll have it removed. Everyone suggested against ceramic coating as I had will have to park the car in the street for foreseeable future and our harsh conditions doesn't make the ceramic coating last much log.

Originally Posted by TN13Sleeper

You can now justify as to why the N-line had to dropped from your consideration list.

Hyundai cars will never be in my consideration list. I took one small test drive of 2nd Gen Hyundai Verna and I was soo scary to drive with no feedback from the steering wheel whatsoever. I decided then and there that I will never buy a Hyundai car ever again.

Originally Posted by TN13Sleeper

But I would advice you against installing leather seats in our harsh climate. Funds can be put to better use by going for 3M CR70 tints all around the car.

Too late, already got the Stanley leather seats today. Will get the CR70 tints soon as all the funds have dried up. (65k for PPF, 7.5k for the mats and 60k for the Stanley seat covers)

Originally Posted by jijivishu

TankFull FE : 22.7 km/l

My 2017 Dominar 400 returns that figure.

Originally Posted by jijivishu

The key is to not let the turbo kick in which comes in somewhere around 1750rpm.

I will definitely try this tomorrow on my 250 km round trip.

Originally Posted by COMMUTER

I know I will never understand the decision, especially choosing this Polo over the VW Virtus

If I wasn't lucky to get the Polo GT, I would have most likely leaned towards MG Astor turbo(huge fan of the looks).

Initially I was set on buying the Kushaq or Slavia but other than the bump in power, everything else felt like either a downgrade or side grade from my dad's Rapid. The build quality also left me massively disappointed and moreover I feel the Octavia is a proper upgrade to Rapid rather than slavia.

Definitely my next car unless I'm graced with better circumstances to afford the bigger German sedans.

[Chaman K]

Originally Posted by vivek.ks

The wiper of my 3 week old Polo makes a horrible sound on every wipe. The noise is pretty irritating and I believe this could be an issue with blades of poor quality or they have become hard (in a 3-week old car ?)

Has anyone else faced or is facing this issue ?

My 6 month old polo with 3800 kms has recently started squeaking from the wipers with some streaks while wiping. The sound is not horrible but right now it's heard pretty clearly in the cabin. Clearly VW has skipped on the quality of the wiper blades. Do get it rectified at the 1st month checkup/1000kms or the next scheduled service (7500km/6months) provided it's not a hindrance other than the noise.

For my mediocre wipers I'm putting Bosch aero twin wipers for the polo and swapping the polo's wipers to our i20 in the coming days.

[Sierra__foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Chaman K

My 6 month old polo with 3800 kms has recently started squeaking from the wipers with some streaks while wiping. The sound is not horrible but right now it's heard pretty clearly in the cabin. Clearly VW has skipped on the quality of the wiper blades. Do get it rectified at the 1st month checkup/1000kms or the next scheduled service (7500km/6months) provided it's not a hindrance other than the noise.

For my mediocre wipers I'm putting Bosch aero twin wipers for the polo and swapping the polo's wipers to our i20 in the coming days.

Mine has covered 20000KMS in one year and for the past 3 to 4 months I van hear speaks in both the front door pads whenever I go through a small pothole or bumps at low speed.

Very irritating and tho I want to get it rectified , I am actually scared if vw guys will mess something else while trying to rectify the current issue.

[RoadMonkey]

Originally Posted by Vaishak

I own a 2020 Oct manufactured HL+ model... Gradually, I’ve seen that figure dropping to hardly 9 in city traffic. Highest mileage is around 15-16 with very sedate driving on highways. Can anyone advise on what to do next?

I, too, own a 2020 Oct manufactured HL+ AT model. I've gotten a mileage of 7 in dense city traffic to 26kmpl on highways. I feel like I can contribute to this discussion. My car's done 15k kms in all sort of conditions, across multiple states. I have also driven it with a heavy foot as well as light.

Originally Posted by igemini

This is the same mileage figures that I am getting in a city like Kochi. With some spirited driving, I have seen this further dropped to 7.5 in the city. On Kerala highways (well if we call them highways) I used to get anywhere from 12.5 to 15kmpl. The highest I saw was 16.5 kmpl when I went to TamilNadu.

As the official review of the 1.0 TSI says, FE is very sensitive to throttle input. I've driven in the same city in the same traffic and have gotten city mileage ranging from 7.5 to 11. What was the difference? How aggressive I was in covering gaps within city, how heavy was the foot on the accelerator. Though I never drove rashly within city, the 1.0 TSI allows you to cover gaps in traffic and the size allows you to manuever through traffic like no other car. If you get carried away and exercise that acceleration with a heavy foot, though enjoyable, will come at a price.

Originally Posted by Sierra__foxtrot

I'm quite surprised the entire gt / polo community is reporting dismal FE figures.
Mine is giving me absolutely good figures.

Chennai traffic gets me at the least 14KMPL , the usual being 17 to 18 KMPL and the highway runs giving close to 24 -25 KMPL .

Would I be wrong in assuming that you were cruising in 6th gear at 80kmph when you got the 24-25 figures? How was the weather? FE varies from summer to winter as well given the AC use. I have gotten upto 25-26 when I was specifically aiming for FE above everything else in North Indian winters. I would run the AT in manual mode and ensure I keep the 6th gear at the speed of 80 (it sometimes stays in the 5th around that speed, but if you accelerate to 90 and come back to 80, it also happily stays in 6th), so I manually would ensure that the cruising happened in the 6th gear. However, I got tired of driving like that. I now drive as I would normally with occasional spirited overtakes in tricky situations, I get a healthy FE of 18-19kmph on Punjab's highways with moderate driving. When the highways are especially open and inviting, I once got as low as 14kmpl on the Amritsar highway.

The city mileage also depends on how you like to navigate traffic. These days my father drives the car on his daily office commute. He used to get ~14kmpl in winters, now getting ~12kmpl in summers. If I were to drive the same stretch with my heavier foot, I'd get ~10kmpl.

The simple explanation for the FE discussion of TSI engine really is that FE is really throttle sensitive. Some people, especially those coming from diesels, will be used to driving with a heavier foot. Overall speeds don't matter as much as the acceleration. The TSI begs to be driven harder, in order to be enjoyed, but then you will have to deal with low FE numbers. However if you want to ensure good FE from this engine, it can indeed be done, although the drive will be boring. But we can't have our cake and eat it too.

[apachelongbow]

Originally Posted by jijivishu

Before you ask, mine's a fully stock 1.0 TSI.
The key is to not let the turbo kick in which comes in somewhere around 1750rpm. Driving just below 80 in 6th gear extracts highest mileage as far as I've experienced (30+).

That's the whole point. Most of us Indian drivers don't understand a turbo, the spoolup and the turbo zone.
A turbocharged car has the best acceleration (pickup) and is the most efficient when the engine rpm is in the turbo sweet zone. A quick read of your technical manual will let you know about the turbo zone in your car. If the zone is say in between 1500 and 3000 rpm, if you time your gearshifts to keep the rpm at say 2000rpm in all gears, you will extract the maximum fuel efficiency. If you shift at say 2500 rpm and maintain close to 2500 rpm in all gears, you will get the best possible acceleration.

So how do we shift in an automatic without manual shifters? Simple we look at the rpm we need to upshift and temporarily release the accelerator, to get the autobox to shift higher and then gently press the accelerator to accelerate to the correct rpm for the next upshift.

[pavi]

A turbocharged car has the best acceleration (pickup) and is the most efficient when the engine rpm is in the turbo sweet zone. A quick read of your technical manual will let you know about the turbo zone in your car. If the zone is say in between 1500 and 3000 rpm, if you time your gearshifts to keep the rpm at say 2000rpm in all gears, you will extract the maximum fuel efficiency. If you shift at say 2500 rpm and mantain close to 2500 rpm in all gears, you will get the best possible acceleration.

Are you considering gear ratios here?? If we upshift from 2500 rpm, the next gear should land the rpm around 2000 or less based on the gear ratios of that particular car. So I don't think shifting rpm is important rather than rpm maintained for a long time across gears are important.

A question I have in my mind is, will it create any issues to turbo if you keep the turbo from spooling for a long time as the hot air (less quantity) would still be circulated through the turbo.

Note: Maintaining a constant rpm in Kerala roads is next to impossible, even on highways. I have find peace with it and don't expect anything more than 15 kmpl even on long journeys Mine is a Skoda Rapid 1.0TSI.

[gt3t0uring]

Seeing fellow owners' figures has tempted me to post mine. 23-24 is an easy target to achieve if your driving on the highway. I got 30kmpl (tank to tank verified) albeit with strict conditions. Conditions applied:
•strictly 60km/hr cruising speed
•limited revs upto 2000
•95% Highway

[Vik0728]

Originally Posted by gt3t0uring

I got 30kmpl (tank to tank verified) albiet with strict conditions.

This is insane numbers gt3t0uring. Probably even the ARAI wouldn't apply such "Strict conditions"!

I own a 2019 GT TDI and with cruise control on a well paved tarmac, the best KM/L numbers I got on the MID was 26.2!

[gt3t0uring]

Originally Posted by Vik0728

This is insane numbers gt3t0uring. Probably even the ARAI wouldn't apply such "Strict conditions"!

Maintaining 60 kmph even with cruise control becomes excruciating when you have 100 odd horses under the hood and see other motorists zoom past by. But I along with my father had made up our mind to extract the best possible FE figures. Also, all the distance travelled was at night so that certainly helped us.

The point is how technology has come so far that a turbo petrol with 108hp can give just as good FE as a 37hp 2-cylinder engine. (Our Nano gives the same numbers at the same speed)

[PrasannaDhana]

Originally Posted by gt3t0uring

The point is how technology has come so far that a turbo petrol with 108hp can give just as good FE as a 37hp 2-cylinder engine. (Our Nano gives the same numbers at the same speed)

True indeed!

This isn't only regarding the 1.0 TSI. This applies to all turbo petrol/diesel cars.

I have had 8 kmpl as well as 18 kmpl from my 2+ tonne storme. 15 kmpl as well as 24 kmpl (T2T fuel efficiency, not MID) from my altroz turbo diesel.

Fuel efficiency will drastically change with the way we drive. The caveat is that turbo petrols are hypersensitive to driving style when compared to turbodiesels.

Believe me, I have done a lot of experimentation on various cars under various fuels. One thing I have realized is this - It's never a good tradeoff to sacrifice driving pleasure and fun for a few extra kmpl. Specially in a car with that 1.0 TSI

Hypermiling is extremely boring.

[jijivishu]

Originally Posted by k491

I will definitely try this tomorrow on my 250 km round trip.

As discussed above, it is really boring

Originally Posted by Chaman K

My 6 month old polo with 3800 kms has recently started squeaking from the wipers with some streaks while wiping.

My rear one showed some squeaks last monsoon. A forced spray wash somehow fixed it. The front ones are forming very light streaks now (13month, 23k+ kms). Hopefully will upgrade to Bosch ones. Please do share your opinions if you upgrade

Originally Posted by pavi

A question I have in my mind is, will it create any issues to turbo if you keep the turbo from spooling for a long time

Thanks for pointing out, I had the same question in the back of my mind for a while. It requires more use of clutch as well since we're in lower rpms.

Originally Posted by gt3t0uring

Maintaining 60 kmph even with cruise control becomes excruciating when you have 100 odd horses under the hood and see other motorists zoom past by.

Worse when you've to do that in a Polo. Yes the engine and gearbox and handling and suspension is favoring you to drive hard, one more thing which wants the same is the SEATS. Once cruising you'll notice the seats and comfort and that is one thing you do not want to notice in this car you love.

Mine have turned really stiff lately. I've VW seat covers which came with the Turbo Edition but do seat covers affect seating comfort to a fair extent? Covers are nice, I guess the seat material is the culprit.
Kudos to UPSRTC bus seats for being alive even after daily abUSE for years

[Vaishak]

[quote=gt3t0uring;5320368]Seeing fellow owners' figures has tempted me to post mine. 23-24 is an easy target to achieve if your driving on the highway. I got 30kmpl (tank to tank verified) albeit with strict conditions. Conditions applied:
•strictly 60km/hr cruising speed
•limited revs upto 2000
•95% Highway

Just asking, is it with normal Petrol or the more expensive one? The reason is because as of today, I tried XP95 and it has improved drastically inside the city limits (about 13-15kmpl compared to 7-9kmpl previously).

[Attorviator]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

One thing I have realized is this - It's never a good tradeoff to sacrifice driving pleasure and fun for a few extra kmpl. Specially in a car with that 1.0 TSI

Hypermiling is extremely boring.

Truer words have never been spoken.

I drive an Ameo TDi having 108 bhp & 250nm torque. I believe its the same engine from the GT TDi. Since mine is the base Trendline variant, FE figures do not reflect on the MID and I have to manually calculate each time. In my experience, no matter how sedately I drive, I have not seen a drastic improvement in FE compared to when I am absolutely gunning the throttle (P.S. I still keep speeds under the applicable speed limit).

It could be that I have never driven sedately long enough (i.e., to impact the full tank to full tank figures) or that I may be bad at math and record keeping but I have never seen FE figures either touch or cross 20 kmpl. Another reason could be the tyres. The stock ones which I ran for 35k odd kms were Apollo 14 inch(ers) with steel wheel. Upgrade was to 15 inch Plati alloys and Yokohama Sdrive 205/55/R15. In hindsight, I think both are on two polarising extremes where FE takes a negative hit.

The average FE figure I constantly see on a tank to tank basis is 16 kmpl.

[gt3t0uring]

Originally Posted by Vaishak

Just asking, is it with normal Petrol or the more expensive one? The reason is because as of today, I tried XP95 and it has improved drastically inside the city limits (about 13-15kmpl compared to 7-9kmpl previously).

I forgot to mention, this is indeed with XP95.

[samee_arian]

As many have mentioned, it is a task restricting oneself to such low speeds on highways, especially when you such a powerful engine and a car like Polo that begs to be driven hard. I have a Honda City 2012 petrol and whenever I do highway runs, even speeds of 100 feel so boring. Kudos to anyone who can resist such an urge. I still manage to get around 12-13 kmpl tank to tank and feel it is worth it. But surely a feeling of extracting every possible mile from a litre of fuel is definitely worth it.