[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by abhinav1817

People who are buying Seltos in the current MY22 variant, is there any news of further updates later this year, or early next year from the sales guys anywhere.

The only information or guessing statement i got from a SA at kia was, no 'facelift' to seltos will come until after ~3months of launch of Creta. (And there is no official word on creta as well)

I know no one can officially comment on this question but wanted to take a long shot asking senior people in the industry or people who are buying current seltos their feedback on the same.

P.S. - Hyundai Sales team mentioned Tucson, Ioniq and then Creta without any timeline or official commitment. (May be around Diwali'22)

We recently purchased Seltos in our extended family in the month of March. The only upgrade I heard is minor updates like additional airbags etc in April. In fact, for last few months or so, Seltos has been getting some minor changes /new top variants/variants re-shuffle every now and then but no firm news of proper facelift.

[rrk]

Originally Posted by abhinav1817

People who are buying Seltos in the current MY22 variant, is there any news of further updates later this year, or early next year from the sales guys anywhere.

The only information or guessing statement i got from a SA at kia was, no 'facelift' to seltos will come until after ~3months of launch of Creta. (And there is no official word on creta as well)

I know no one can officially comment on this question but wanted to take a long shot asking senior people in the industry or people who are buying current seltos their feedback on the same.

P.S. - Hyundai Sales team mentioned Tucson, Ioniq and then Creta without any timeline or official commitment. (May be around Diwali'22)

Got my Seltos couple of days ago. Kia has just added new features like additional airbags, updated suspension etc and have also dropped couple of variants since April/May 2022. Based on the sales they may rejig some variants in future.

Not sure how much is true but the dealer told me that there is plan for only one smart key (and one regular key) in seltos (instead of two smart keys). I would take it with a pinch of salt whatever kia dealer says.

My take - Kia are not in any rush for facelift as such. Even if one happens, all we are going to get is new bumper or some bling. Engine+trany is already there and I dont expect anything new for next 1-2 years.

BTW, come October/November, all cars might get 6 airbags if the new MoRTH rule is in place. Good to have safer car at extra price anyday.

May I ask, what updates/features are you expecting?

If you are actively shopping, my suggestion would be to buy a car (seltos or not) that fits your requirement and bill and no point waiting for facelifts for hot selling cars.

[cavarun]

I have become proud owner of Kia Seltos HTK+ iMT (Petrol) Model in Feb 2022. I have driven it around 5000 kms and the car has undergone 2 mandatory services.
Do Not want to bore you guys with a full review of the car as it has been already been covered in detail by our fellow Team BHPians.

I would however like to point out few things which I have noticed and modifications I will like to do in my car.

First is mileage, I drive 100% in city traffic area during the office hours with full time AC on (traffic in our city is mild, i.e., moving at a gentle pace), I will say that with light foot driving rpm between 1500-2000 & speed between 40-60 this car is giving me about 10km/l. on open roads it gives me around 12-13 km/l. once I had the opportunity to take this car on highway there it gave me about 14km/l (with some spirited driving).

What I have gotten used to:
1. warning chimes at low speed to downshift
2. Risk of slight/moderate roll back at parking ramps.
3. Harsh suspension
4. My left leg is loving it (absence of clutch is a major boon)
5. Car is a breeze to drive with adequate power.
6. Spacious 2nd row.
7. wireless android auto.
8 and some more.

Accessories fitted with
1. 7D Autozone car mats
2. Accessories taken (for faster delivery)

Modification I would like to do:
Auto IRVM
Head light upgrade to 5k Led bulbs
Front parking sensors / 360 camera
Dashcam (hard wired)

DIY is not an option for me as I am a complete noob / lacks courage. However, I have got a FNG/accessory dealer, who can do this for me.

I am looking for suggestions regarding the modification like which brand / product to opt for.

Some pointers
Head light upgrade to 5k Led bulbs (dealer is pushing me for Maxxlink brand, he doesn’t keep Osrams)
Front parking sensors (will have to be fit on dashboard)
360 camera (as my car has 8” system, says the same may not be available)
Dashcam (hard wired) (undecided between front or dual)

Thanks for reading.
Varun
Surat

[vijay.s]

Hello T-bhp members,

Request your feedback. Sorry for the long thread below.

I am currently looking to replace my 4-year-old dzire (run ~ 28000 kms) with a semi-SUV (either a Kia Seltos / Hyundai Creta). My monthly run doesn't warrant a diesel and hence been primarily test driving petrol cars. However, I am in a dilemma and would request forum members' feedback.

1. Seltos HTX iVT (Automatic) - Loved the super silent engine, butter smooth drive and did not notice any lag (atleast not so much that I would hate it). Variant looks vfm especially after Apr/May 2022 updates to Seltos.

Concerns -
Safety: Comes only with 4 airbags. Not sure if the additional 2 airbags would make a difference but somehow spending close to ~ 20L without all the airbags keeps me anxious.
Fancy: Does not come with 360 view camera, or ventilated seats which feel like big things to compromise. No panoramic sunroof either.


2. Seltos HTX/ GTX+ (DCT Automatic) - Loved the surge in engine power although could notice some level of gear shifts happening consciously. Took it to drive through a very steep incline and was stunned at its ability to stand still and eventually move ahead after a small descent after a pause of 3-5 sec.

Concerns -
Worried about the long-term reliability of DCT transmission. On enquiring with the sales folks, they keep saying the issues with DCT are no longer witnessed post-2021 and were more common to vehicles purchased in 2019-20.
Mileage: Have been primarily driving vehicles from the Maruti stable and hence had no issues with the mileage. With DCT transmission, I am not sure what I am signing up for.
Wait time: 5-7 months waiting period and slightly over budget (at least by 2L)

3. Seltos Diesel AT (either HTX or GTX plus variant) - Haven't driven it yet but feel like upgrading to diesel to have peace of mind and not be anxious about frequent visits to the petrol pump.

Concerns - I haven't ever owned a diesel vehicle and have been a petrol head. So, I am not sure what I am signing up for if I upgrade to diesel. Since my monthly running has further reduced post-covid-19 (with a hybrid working model available), Is it wise to purchase a diesel vehicle if running is at or below 600 kms a month? Also, not very sure about the maintenance cost for the vehicle in the long term.

4. Creta SX iVT / SX (O) iVT - Drove the SX iVT (O) variant and found it really smooth. But somehow when I drove Seltos iVT later, found its drive to be a lot better and found the Seltos ever-ready to take the revs. I didn't drive both the vehicles on the same day and maybe I am just overthinking. But would like forum members' feedback.

Rear seat / AC comfort - My wife found the rear seat comfort and AC to be much better on Creta than onSseltos. She mentioned that the difference could be noticed only when the vehicles are being compared but would not matter.

Concerns - With the crash safety results out, 2 airbags on SX iVT do not inspire any confidence and seem like if it is creta, I need to definitely buy SX iVT (O). The ventilated option is another pulling factor I must say.


4. Creta SX DCT / SX (O) DCT - The test drive vehicle was not in great condition so my review may be biased. As I drove it through, I could hear a lot of rattling sounds from the dashboard, gearbox area, air purifier and window glasses. Power-wise, It was largely similar to Seltos DCT with Seltos faring marginally better.

With the impending launch of the Toyota and Maruti's Creta/ Seltos rivals, I am not sure If I should plunge into the market now or wait and watch the space for what Toyota & Maruti have to offer. Further, I also heard about facelifts due for Seltos / Creta with no clear idea about when it is likely to happen.

[naru80]

Originally Posted by vijay.s

I am currently looking to replace my 4 year old dzire (run ~ 28000 kms) with a semi-suv (either a Kia Seltos / Hyundai Creta).

What's the reason for replacing? IMHO, unless there's a compelling factor, you should continue with the dzire.

Originally Posted by vijay.s

1. Seltos HTX iVT (Automatic) - Loved the super silent engine, butter smooth drive and did not notice any lag (atleast not so much that I would hate it). Variant looks vfm especially after Apr/May 2022 updates to seltos.

Seltos is a great car. But with a poor safety rating. You can go with it if your running is primarily within the city.

Originally Posted by vijay.s

Is it wise to purchase a diesel vehicle if running is at or below 600 kms a month?

Nope

Originally Posted by vijay.s

With impending launch of the toyota and maruti's creta/seltos rivals, I am not sure If I should plunge into the market now or wait and watch the space for what toyota & maruti have to offer.

It's launching in just a couple of days. You can make an informed choice on July 1.

Originally Posted by vijay.s

Further, I also heard about facelifts due for seltos / creta with no clear idea about when it is likely to happen.

Creta vs Seltos boils down to personal preference. The Creta facelift is due in early 2023. You can book now and by the time your delivery date comes, the facelift will be here. Seltos AFAIK has just been refreshed and there is no big change on the horizon.

[vijay.s]

Originally Posted by naru80

What's the reason for replacing? IMHO, unless there's a compelling factor, you should continue with the dzire.

Met with a minor road accident in a 2 wheeler vehicle 8 months back. Since, then I have developed pain near the ankle & knee area and is especially noticed when I engage in activity that results in stress to my left leg. I have noticed this more prominently when I have to engage clutch. Its not so high that I cannot bear the pain nor it is too low to ignore. Pre-liminary investigations does not reveal any issues and have been advised for MRI as next step. I am anyway planning to get the MRI done but wanted to reduce anything that would result in adding stress to the ankle/knee area.

[vijay.s]

Originally Posted by naru80

Creta vs Seltos boils down to personal preference. The Creta facelift is due in early 2023. You can book now and by the time your delivery date comes, the facelift will be here. Seltos AFAIK has just been refreshed and there is no big change on the horizon.

Yes, I have been quoted a waiting period of 6-8 months but is that really true that everyone has to wait that long before they get their vehicle? I personally feel its an artifical way to generate demand by indicating that the vehicle has high waiting period resulting in people to believe that perhaps creta is really good. No offense to creta owners but I just was curious to know how many of the folks who were indicated a long waiting period really had to wait so long before they got their vehicle.

To add to this, I found Hyundai's sales folks attitude really pathetic. It is as if the sales person lose interest to sell the car the moment you mention creta. I have been to 2 showrooms in hyderabad and each one was competing with the other to prove themselves to be more pathetic.

[abhinav1817]

Originally Posted by rrk

Got my Seltos couple of days ago. Kia has just added new features like additional airbags, updated suspension etc and have also dropped couple of variants since April/May 2022. Based on the sales they may rejig some variants in future.

May I ask, what updates/features are you expecting?

First of all, congratulation on your new seltos. Wishing lots of happy miles.

Second and honest, this is me being too-extra 'optimistic' for a lack of better word. It all started with IVT vs DCT for seltos for me.

Reference Thread:

Originally Posted by abhinav1817

Seeking advice from you all on:

The general consensus across teambhp (&Youtube) is:

If most of your drive is in city and you have sedate style IVT ticks most of the boxes.

Now while the first part of the above statement is true for me, the second does not fit me. I also fear that small test drives in East Bangalore may not give a very conclusive picture. And therefore, decided to write my own post as I could not find/conclude the answer.

Which way to go? Would love to hear from respective owners driving specifically in heavy traffic conditions.

However, when i tested Creta SXO, the family members sitting behind really liked the 3 person rear seating which is a tad bit better than seltos and the panoramic sunroof. (i on the other hand was enjoying more the 360 degrees and blind spot monitors features while driving seltos). Also, personally, i am not a fan of current creta's front exterior.

So it all came down to either wait for the creta facelift or seltos facelift with a panoramic sunroof. Now we do hear some news on the creta front but nothing on the latter (other than leaked testing vehicle pics)

As I am eyeing the top petrol variants, they are my max budget stretched out, so do not want to pay emi for a car i am not 100% on board with. Hence the struggle.!

[harshbhat]

Originally Posted by vijay.s

I am currently looking to replace my 4-year-old dzire (run ~ 28000 kms) with a semi-SUV (either a Kia Seltos / Hyundai Creta). My monthly run doesn't warrant a diesel and hence been primarily test driving petrol cars. However, I am in a dilemma and would request forum members' feedback.

If your drive is majorly city, then I think you'd be better off with IVT. DCT is automatic transmission with manual 'feel'. Similar to clutch wear in manual transmission when you always drive in bumper to bumper traffic, DCT is also subjected to clutch wear and tear due to clutch not dis-engaging fully. If your drive is mostly on highway and occasional city drives then you can consider DCT as you have observed the shifts are much quicker as there is no loss of torque during shifts. 1.4T engine + DCT is good combo for sportier experience and I consider GTX+ is one segment higher than HTX variant with all the added features.

You cannot go wrong with any of the transmission actually. Con

[Abhishek_Nikam]

Originally Posted by rahulskumar

How much delta do you see with the console mileage figures when compared to tank to tank method ?

In my first few days, I went on a trip to Goa via Phaltan, and the roads were excellent throughout, but also had hilly areas, experienced traffic, highways, etc.
I used the tank full method and the delta was less than 1.
I got an average of around 13 on the console, and via manual calculation it was above 12. So not much difference.

I have the HTX+IVT Petrol. What I have also observed is, if I switch off the AC, it drastically improves the milage on highway as well as city drives. In City drives, with heavy traffic with AC, milage usually is in single digits, around 8-9 km/l, but if I switch off the AC, it goes above 11 km/l. This I am talking in bumper to bumper traffic.

[Sachin_Nair]

New Kia Seltos Facelift Video seen on some YouTube channels. Posting one below. The new design looks smashing in my opinion. Could n't help but notice the lack of sunroof. When it will be launched is anybody's guess, India definitely does n't appear to be the first market to receive the facelift.

https://youtu.be/8hx1R74Ukbg

[Vedant Gupta]

Originally Posted by Sachin_Nair

New Kia Seltos Facelift Video seen on some YouTube channels. Posting one below. The new design looks smashing in my opinion. Could n't help but notice the lack of sunroof. When it will be launched is anybody's guess, India definitely does n't appear to be the first market to receive the facelift.

https://Youtu.be/8hx1R74Ukbg

The facelift is brilliant. Although I don't know how close the India spec car will be to what we are seeing in the video.

I read somewhere that the India facelift is coming in Jan-23, let's hope for the best.

[DeepuSultan]

I have two questions regarding the 2022 Kia Seltos. Mine is HTX IVT model.

1. Where is the proper position to place the jack for tyre change? The actual place in the car (same in all four positions) and what says in the manual, are different. Photos attached.

2. Whoever bought the 2022 Kia Seltos, did you receive the battery warranty card? I did not receive it with my docs/booklet. Is it that we should receive along with our docs? Little scared.

[car_guy1998]

I originally booked the Seltos GTX+ Diesel AT in White colour in the month of March. But, due to budget issues, I had to change the variant and colour to HTX D AT in Black a few weeks ago and somehow, we felt HTX D AT is more VFM as it has the features I wanted but had to compromise on features like extra 2 airbags (this variant has 4 airbags and I felt they could've offered 6 airbags in this variant), 360 degree camera, front parking sensors, wireless charger and ventilated seats, which is not much of important to me.

On road price of Seltos HTX D AT in Hyderabad is 20.5L including extended warranty and I won't be taking the accessories from the showroom.

And, the waiting period of the variant I booked is 15-18 weeks as per the dealer and we are open to look at other options like Thar D AT, Scorpio-N D AT and Sonet D AT.

[harshbhat]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

I originally booked the Seltos GTX+ Diesel AT in White colour in the month of March. But, due to budget issues, I had to change the variant and colour to HTX D AT in Black a few weeks ago and somehow, we felt HTX D AT is more VFM as it has the features I wanted but had to compromise on features like extra 2 airbags (this variant has 4 airbags and I felt they could've offered 6 airbags in this variant), 360 degree camera, front parking sensors, wireless charger and ventilated seats, which is not much of important to me.

HTX is most VFM variant in Seltos. In GTX+, you get few more nice to have features apart from you mentioned like BOSE sound system, HUD, UV cut glasses, nicer looking alloys.