[michealangelo49]

BHPians,
I drive a 2020 Toyota yaris G CVT, and despite its minor short comings love the car and the comfort it offers especially while driving in the city, not to mention the toyota reliability.
I have recently come across some videos on youtube with some guys in Pakistan(it is sold under name Ativ) retrofit lower model yaris with cruise control. Has someone done this in India? If yes, please be kind enough to share the process to get this accomplished.

Thanks

[amalji]

One of my close family member is considering the Toyota Yaris VX CVT 2020 Feb registered used car as one of the possible options. A couple of questions.

1. Is 185/65 R15 tyres tested by anyone here on the Yaris stock alloys? If so could you share the feedback?

2. I've seen discussions around not having Android auto on older versions of Yaris here. Does any version of Yaris sold in India come with Android auto. If so, from which year?

Originally Posted by Simhi

Congratulations once again. I hope you meant 30th March.

In my Yaris "V" Variant, the rear interior lamps can be switched off. The switches are part of the light console. The way I have set it is to have it ON when car is unlocked and have it OFF when car is locked.

A sample picture of rear light console is shown for reference
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Where do you change this setting. We were inspecting a Yaris VX used car and couldn't turn it off while the car was unlocked.

[anoopvk268]

Sorry for bumping an old thread.
Does it make sense for buying 2020 model Yaris top end CVT now? 9.5 l on road in Bangalore. About 18km odo.
What are the pros and cons?
Will parts/resale be an Issue in future? Planning to keep for 3-4 years.

Bit of history:

Going to replace my 6 year old manual Baleno. Wanted a safe and smooth automatic. Planned for Slavia earlier, but dropped due to budget constraints.

[drsnt]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

Seems ingenious. But I would be worried about it staying put in case of emergency, as its only contact with the car is a piece of Velcro.

Happy to inform that the handrest has been staying as it was intended to, except the velcro needs to be repositioned as the foam tends to get deformed with pressure and the assembly gets a bit loose. I shift the velcro at different positions and the foam regains its shape in a few days. I do this one in 3-4 months. Never has it got loose enough to get separated from the base.

Originally Posted by anoopvk268

Sorry for bumping an old thread.
Does it make sense for buying 2020 model Yaris top end CVT now? 9.5 l on road in Bangalore. About 18km odo.
What are the pros and cons?
Will parts/resale be an Issue in future? Planning to keep for 3-4 years.

Bit of history:

Going to replace my 6 year old manual Baleno. Wanted a safe and smooth automatic. Planned for Slavia earlier, but dropped due to budget constraints.

Try to get for 8.5L after checking history etc. Resale will be poor than comparable Honda City but then Honda City will be costlier to buy also. Yaris is a very successful model in the Middle East with the same engine and gearbox. Dont think there should be any issues even if you keep it longer.

Originally Posted by amalji

One of my close family member is considering the Toyota Yaris VX CVT 2020 Feb registered used car as one of the possible options. A couple of questions.


Where do you change this setting. We were inspecting a Yaris VX used car and couldn't turn it off while the car was unlocked.

I can't switch off the back interior lights in my VX, I removed its bulb when I bought it. I don't like my lights to come on every time the door opens.

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[theabstractmind]

Completed 1 year and 10000 km on my pre-owned Yaris. No issues so far. Routine replacement of Brake Pads and two tyres (in the hindsight I should have negotiated for this with the dealer) and Battery replaced due to my car cleaner leaving the boot open which drained the battery.

The car has its shortcomings when compared to my previous ride - the Ameo 1.5 TDi DSG. I miss the music system, torque, power, and lightning shifts. But! The Yaris has repaid every bit of faith I have put into it. Long drives, bad roads, traffic, nothing is an issue now. The car is very low on fatigue for both driver and passenger (as confirmed by family). And my back thanks the awesome leather seats, every time. Prime objective achieved.

Hoping for a trouble free ownership for years to come.

[wavingflag]

My Yaris has been covering miles without many troubles. I have completed both the 40K and 50K services, and the service costs have been reasonable, around 7000. During regular highway trips, I usually log a fuel efficiency of around 16-20 kmpl.

However, there's an issue that has been bothering me since the purchase, and I'm seeking help from fellow owners or experts. The steering wheel does not return to the center position after a turn. While it sometimes returns slowly, it doesn't come back to the exact center position. This issue becomes particularly noticeable at lower speeds, especially on narrow roads with frequent turns where my speed is limited to 30 kmph or below.

I have raised this issue multiple times during servicing, but the response has consistently been that this is how the Yaris and Etios steering wheels operate. I even scheduled a separate appointment to address this specific issue, and I received the same response. The service advisor acknowledged that the steering wheel doesn't return to center. Their explanations were: firstly, it's typical for Yaris and Etios models not to return completely to center, and secondly, the tires are nearing 5 years of use and have covered 55000 kilometers. Despite having sufficient tread and no uneven wearing, the rubber might have hardened over time.

I am planning to change my tires soon, even though there are no alignment issues. However, I'm concerned that there might be another underlying cause for this steering issue. It's worth noting that my vehicle's extended warranty will expire in November 2023.

I would greatly appreciate any guidance or suggestions on this matter. Thank you in advance.

[theabstractmind]

Originally Posted by wavingflag

My Yaris has been covering miles without many troubles. I have completed both the 40K and 50K services, and the service costs have been reasonable, around 7000. During regular highway trips, I usually log a fuel efficiency of around 16-20 kmpl.

However, there's an issue that has been bothering me since the purchase, and I'm seeking help from fellow owners or experts. The steering wheel does not return to the center position after a turn. While it sometimes returns slowly, it doesn't come back to the exact center position. This issue becomes particularly noticeable at lower speeds, especially on narrow roads with frequent turns where my speed is limited to 30 kmph or below.

I think the car is indeed designed that way. It does have a return to center action but not enough for those used to better steering setups, but better than some of the other cars. I have learnt to live with it as a typical steering with a good return action seem to be heavier based on my experience. A lighter but firm steering was one of the many reasons I ended up with the Yaris.

Good to see you clock very good FE. On my most recent trip from Udupi to Bangalore, I clocked 16.6 on the MID despite the uphill drive. AC was on about 70 percent of the journey, only me in the car. This despite using paddle shifters for overtaking which revs the engine higher. I was surely helped by low traffic. I am not complaining. The car has turned out to be a great buy.

[wavingflag]

Originally Posted by theabstractmind

I think the car is indeed designed that way. It does have a return to center action but not enough for those used to better steering setups, but better than some of the other cars. .

Thanks for the reply. It's good to know that it's the default behavior and there's nothing much to worry about. I hope for some improvement when I replace my aging tires.

[crodjer]

I'll be considering a car purchase later this year in Bangalore. And I might look for a pre-owned Yaris. I felt that the car was never given a chance in India. It had impressive safety specs when it was launched and it is still competitive I feel from that aspect.
Tata makes safe cars now but they still miss on things such as middle headrest, 3 point seat belt. In fact most other cars are stuck at dual airbags (which is nice, but not enough).

Does it make sense to get a pre-owned Yaris? What would be the best avenue for this? Cars 24 and Spinny have them listed, but should I also look into local dealerships?
Also, is there a reliable way to check a cars service history - in case the seller can't provide documentation (I think they won't be able to given Cars 24 / Spinny never asked me for the receipts and service records when buying the car).

[beez]

Originally Posted by crodjer

What would be the best avenue for this? Cars 24 and Spinny have them listed, but should I also look into local dealerships?

Around same time last year I was considering buying a pre-owned Yaris. I was regularly browsing the Toyota U Trust website then. Please check here: https://www.toyotautrust.in/used-cars/bangalore

Toyota has a direct used car showroom at Kengeri and they do have few in stock (might be those provided to Toyota company executives). In my case, I was not happy with the prices on offer for a discontinued model and hence dropped the plan then.

[crodjer]

Originally Posted by beez

Around same time last year I was considering buying a pre-owned Yaris. I was regularly browsing the Toyota U Trust website then. Please check here: https://www.toyotautrust.in/used-cars/bangalore

Toyota has a direct used car showroom at Kengeri and they do have few in stock (might be those provided to Toyota company executives). In my case, I was not happy with the prices on offer for a discontinued model and hence dropped the plan then.

Got it. Thanks! I'll also check this out when I go to Bangalore.

[drsnt]

Originally Posted by crodjer

I'll be considering a car purchase later this year in Bangalore. And I might look for a pre-owned Yaris.

Also, is there a reliable way to check a car's service history - in case the seller can't provide documentation (I think they won't be able to give Cars 24 / Spinny never asked me for the receipts and service records when buying the car)?

Yaris is an excellent vehicle, and in top VX trim it's worth every penny as pre-owned due to lower resale value. You could easily save a few bucks by buying Yaris. Try to get one in warranty. Toyota had 5 yrs warranty available when I got mine in 2019. I think Toyota has a vehicle inspection option at their service on a paid basis. Avail that before you buy. Best of luck hunting.

[Pycar]

I owned a Toyota Yaris VX CVT (top automatic model) for 5.5 years that I bought in 2018 with an extended warranty and recently sold it after driving for 60k KMS. For most of the years I owned the car, I really loved driving it with a few exceptions, which is what I would like to share for others to keep in mind.

Most people consider buying a Toyota because of its brand perception of good reliability and high resale value. On both these counts, I had mixed experiences (for context my reference point of comparison is with a Honda Amaze that I drove for similar number of years/KMS before 2018 where the experience was much better).

On reliability front, I had to experience some issues which were more than the usual ones most folks encounter:

- Questionable OEM Tyres:

Goodyear were the original tyres that came with the car but these had to be replaced in 2021 (technically 3 years later, however for a good 6-9 months during Covid in 2020, the car didn't really run much). The tyres had to be changed due to wobbling. I was told that I would have driven over potholes a high speeds due to which 2 tyres had varying degrees of problems and were replaced in Guarantee period where I had to pay some additional amount. Did I really drive fast over potholes? Not really, I drove my car with great care, however I would probably have driven on some random pothole in middle of highway because it wasn't visible during 80-100km speeds.

The new replaced tyres however didn't last long. I experienced 2-3 punctures in near succession and side wall of tyres wasn't holding up. So I went to a reputed car shop in Noida where I was told this problem is common with Yaris OEM Goodyear tyres (185, 60 R15) as aspect ratio is less and I should upgrade to 185, 65 R15 instead. So I did the recommended upgrade and replaced with Michelin tyres. Not only did problems disappear but ride quality greatly improved (I would highly recommend Michelin regardless of the price).

- Noise & Vibration issues:

Came across a weird noise when car accelerated to 30-40m/hr speeds and Toyota service dealership had to do multiple tests to identify the root cause. The tensioner on the car had to be changed (even though the belt was okay) and post my repair, I found this was a known problem with Yaris globally in European/US markets.

The vibration on steering never resolved, I was told engine mount had to be changed and that it's significant cost so I should try to live with it because it was tolerable to most people.

- Brake booster issues:

Since last year or so driving the car, I used to get a weird ssshh sound like an air blowing in the morning when I used to start my car. It was intermittent in the sense it used to appear on some days but not on others. I wouldn't really demonstrate this to Toyota service team. However while returning from one mountain trip, this noise became more and more apparent and came every time I pressed pedal (driving back from mountains, brakes are used more in downhill). On analysing I was told something is wrong with brake booster.

A brake booster is a hydraulic part that helps amplify the force on exert on brake pedal, it's critical for power brakes to work. Unlike brake boosters of other manufacturers, Toyota brake boosters are not repairable as these cannot be opened and only have to be replaced. For most cars of this range, a brake booster costs 8-10k rupees, however for Toyota Yaris top model, the brake booster was costing a whooping 42k just for the part alone (or you can say roughly 10% of resale value of cost if you include repairs).

Why so expensive? Because Bosch which originally manufactured the part has stopped making it (I spoke to 8-10 Bosch dealers in Delhi) and you can only buy from Toyota and they will be putting in same part as used in Lexus cars as nearest match. The other option was to check with some scrap dealers as there might be a total loss accident car for which they might be willing to sell this part. The last part also I did, visiting and speaking to various scrap dealers but almost no one could help. I realised the problem that Toyota had only sold some 18-20k Yaris cars in India and top automatic model would probably be 10% of these and it's hard to find a total loss car from 2k odd top models that would have been sold. I should mention here that parts for lower manual variants of Yaris were somewhat cheaper however weren't compatible.

While some issues were showing early signs during 5 year warranty period, I should probably have been more assertive with Toyota service dealerships as I feel their engineers didn't pay as much attention to my complaints. The issues of noise, vibration & brake really got accentuated post expiry of my 5 year warranty period, surprisingly unlucky coincidence. I had to end up spending a decent amount of money to get these issues sorted.

On the resale value front I had finally made up my mind to sell the car after getting all these issues resolved. My expectation of resale value from Toyota brand 1.5L petrol CVT was similar or higher than a Honda/Hyundai 1.5L petrol CVT (i.e. Honda city or Verna). However the experience was opposite.

I found most Toyota cars have lesser resale value in the market than comparable cars from other brands and that is because they have discontinued many of their models.

To name a few, 1.2L Etios, 1.5L Yaris, 1.8L Altis have all been discontinued (while Honda city and Hyundai Verna are continuing in the market for many years). And market value of discontinued models is always lower because there is a genuine concern on lack of availability of spare parts (as I had experienced). There is little room of negotiation with car dealers and even if you try sell directly (as I did) the market had benchmarked itself to dealer rates (btw online platforms were showing me much higher rates initially but when I tried selling to them, their price came in a good 2-2.5L lower due to same reasons).

I do feel bad with all current owners of these Toyota cars might end up having a less than ideal resale value on their cars just because Toyota, the brand so many of us have come to trust, decided to discontinue their car models and thereby impacting their spares and general demand in the market.

That's all I had to share. I do feel I should share my experience with fellow owners. You can say that some of these problems I faced could be limited to my own car, however some were generic to Toyota or Yaris brand in general and therefore it was worth calling them out.

[sanjoyraju]

Hello Pycar,

That was a very informative post, thank you.

I have owned a Etios 1.5 L P and have driven it to even Bangalore - Kolkata and back with 5 adults and a dog. It was with me for 8.5 years (3.5 years beyond extended warranty). But never did I have any issue with this vehicle, leaving out wear and tear items. The service support has been exceptional in my experience.(2013 -2021).

I wonder your ownership woes may be due to that particular car - Yaris, which was further worsened by Toyota pulling that vehicle out from market.

Sorry to hear your ordeal and hope you have a way better experience in future. After all it's not a car it's a complete journey of passion.