[SahilS]

Originally Posted by ts1506

Ford EcoSport BS6 brochure is up on the website now:

Adding on to this, prices for both petrol and diesel are up by just 13,000. Official Mileage figure for Bs6 diesel is down to 21.7 from 23 kmpl and 15.9 from 17.6 for petrol .
It is great that Ford has managed to upgrade Bs4 to Bs6 for both petrol/diesel in just 13k!

[JithinR]

Originally Posted by SahilS

Adding on to this, prices for both petrol and diesel are up by just 13,000. Official Mileage figure for Bs6 diesel is down to 21.7 from 23 kmpl and 15.9 from 17.6 for petrol .
It is great that Ford has managed to upgrade Bs4 to Bs6 for both petrol/diesel in just 13k!

This is Ford India we are talking about sir. Let's give them some time. They will probably update the brochure a few more times this month.

Then their notification from CEO to dealer will leak giving a completely different picture, then someone will call up Ford customer care and get a completely different picture. Finally, even their own sales executive will express their helplessness to customers when we ask them for the specs.

[shankha007]

Hello everyone, i took a test drive of the BSVI petrol manual Ecosport on Wednesday. When i started to drive, the MID displayed an average FE of 14.7 kmpl. I do not recall the odometer reading, however, the vehicle was brand new, and i was super happy to see such figures on a test drive vehicle. Moreover, another customer had taken a test drive on that vehicle right before it came to my office. The vibrations at idle were only restricted to the steering wheel, and even then it was almost negligible. The power felt adequate for my requirement, and the steering response was absolutely mind blowing. Drove the vehicle for about five kilometers in moderate traffic with a mixture of light to heavy throttle input, and the FE remained at 14.7 kmpl.

On Saturday, decided to take another go and went to the dealership. This time, it was a different vehicle, which had only 30 kms on the odometer. The MID at start, displayed 7.4 kmpl, which i felt was too low. I took it for a 10 km drive in heavy traffic, and the average FE went down to 7.2 kmpl. Also, in today's vehicle, i felt lot many vibrations under the seat, as well as the steering wheel. That was certainly higher than what it was on the other vehicle.

I have read in the forums, that the Dragon petrol AT customers report FE anywhere between 7 to 8 kmpl in heavy traffic, and 9 to 10 kmpl in moderate traffic, but not many reports on the manual variant.

Considering the above, i have the following questions:

1. What kind of FE figures manual petrol users are getting here?
2. How accurate is the MID in terms of average FE?
3. Also, what is the vibration situation in your vehicles at idle?

Thanks & Regards,

Shankha

[suku_patel_22]

Originally Posted by shankha007

2. How accurate is the MID in terms of average FE?
3. Also, what is the vibration situation in your vehicles at idle?

Thanks & Regards,

Shankha

I have a T+AT and can answer the last two for you.

The mileage shown in MID is pretty accurate. I had verified it with tank to rank once and never bothered since.

The first experience you had was the correct experience. The second time you went for TD, the car must have been cold. It does tend to have harsh vibrations on a cold start in the morning. The vibrations settle down in a minute and even the engine RPM drops. Once it starts moving, there is nothing to be felt. It's one of the best 3cyl's in terms of power and NVH.

[HarshGtR]

Originally Posted by shankha007

Considering the above, i have the following questions:

1. From 9 kmpl with heavy foot to 15 kmpl with light foot
2. Around 5% error as is the case with almost every car
3. Apart from mild vibrations on starting in morning, I don't experience any vibrations at idle. The cabin is very quite. Sometimes family members don't even realize the engine is running.

[shankha007]

Originally Posted by suku_patel_22

The mileage shown in MID is pretty accurate. I had verified it with tank to rank once and never bothered since.

In that case, i am worried about the figures it showed.

Originally Posted by HarshGtR

1. From 9 kmpl with heavy foot to 15 kmpl with light foot
2. Around 5% error as is the case with almost every car
3. Apart from mild vibrations on starting in morning, I don't experience any vibrations at idle. The cabin is very quite. Sometimes family members don't even realize the engine is running.

1. That sounds great, but are these in city figures? What FE are you getting in b2b traffic?
2. Alright, that is in the tolerable range then. When you got the vehicle, what used to be the indicated FE during the first 1000 kms, considering you took it slow during run-in. How much did it show during the first 100 kms? I am not sure how the test drive vehicle was driven for the first 30 kms, but the indicated FE of 7.4 kmpl sure seems low, and that is the reason for asking so many questions!

[HarshGtR]

Originally Posted by shankha007

1. That sounds great, but are these in city figures? What FE are you getting in b2b traffic?
2. Alright, that is in the tolerable range then. When you got the vehicle, what used to be the indicated FE during the first 1000 kms, considering you took it slow during run-in. How much did it show during the first 100 kms? I am not sure how the test drive vehicle was driven for the first 30 kms, but the indicated FE of 7.4 kmpl sure seems low, and that is the reason for asking so many questions!

1. In city- 9 to 11kmpl
On highway- 12 to 15kmpl
2. My ES is just 10 months old and it has completed only 4000 kms. For the first 1000 kms, mileage was good in city (around 10 kmpl with AC ON in April-May) and only 12kmpl on highway (I didn't go above 2500 rpm). My ES had 19 kms on odo on the delivery day and from the first day the MID never went above 12.5kmpl.
3. After 2500kms, the FE figures got better.
4.. The TD vehicle that I drove had completed 12000 kms with 9.4 kmpl.
5. I live in Nashik and there's not much traffic here so don't care about b2b FE figures. But I've taken my car to Mumbai and Pune and still the MID never went below 9 kmpl with b2b. I'm satisfied with these figures if I compare it with our old Figo that we drove for 12000kms in 5 years and the best mileage I got was only 14kmpl (only once in five years). Considering the fact that ES has bigger, more powerful engine than our old Figo, these FE figures are actually unexpectedly satisfying.

But if you really want more mileage, why don't you do for the diesel instead? It's more fun to drive and more efficient.

[Speedshift]

A question for the current owners who have FlyAudio head unit.

How good is the inbuilt navigation? Is there any way to use Google Maps on the head unit?

I saw a few videos but they involve a very cumbersome process as well as opening up the head unit to add some files to the SD card which might cause warranty issues.

On a separate note, its utterly stupid of Ford to not offer Android Auto and Apple Carplay on any variant except the Ecosport S. Even the new Alto has it.

[HarshGtR]

Originally Posted by Speedshift

A question for the current owners who have FlyAudio head unit.

How good is the inbuilt navigation? Is there any way to use Google Maps on the head unit?

I saw a few videos but they involve a very cumbersome process as well as opening up the head unit to add some files to the SD card which might cause warranty issues.

The inbuilt navigation is good not great. But if I'm able to find a place in inbuilt navigation(which is not very easy), I always prefer it because it shows straight forward routes unlike Google Maps which sometimes tells to go through any narrow street for the sake of fastest route. I remember when I followed Google Maps at 3 am in heavy rain and after 15 minutes I was in front of a broken bridge on canal. This bridge was the shortcut to highway. Had I not stopped there, I wouldn't have been here posting this. After that, I followed inbuilt navigation for the rest of the trip.

If you want to use Android Auto, there's only one way: Get an aftermarket ICE.

[shankha007]

Originally Posted by HarshGtR

But if you really want more mileage, why don't you do for the diesel instead? It's more fun to drive and more efficient.

Thanks HarshGtr. Will take a test drive of the diesel this weekend.

I have a couple of other questions to all the other members here.

1. Is the Ecosport in its current avatar in its last legs? Will it be replaced very soon?

2. Can we reset the Average FE? Planning to do so during the upcoming test drive, and give the petrol another go. My monthly usage will not be more than 700 kms, but then again the difference in price between the petrol and diesel Ecosport is not much compared to its rivals.

3. The dealer told me that the diesel BSVI variants are readily available. How come they are selling the vehicles without the availability of BSVI diesel around? The dealer could not tell me which path they have taken to attain BSVI enlightenment, but it definitely is not an SCR system.

[Ibanez_70]

I am planning to get an Ecosport but with BS6 kicking in, I am confused with the choice of engines. Booked the ecoboost previously, but then when the news came it won’t be upgraded to BS6 I cancelled the booking.

Now my question is I have no real budget issues and I want a fun to drive Ecosport. If I had to go with the diesel and my running is very low will it affect the engine in anyway? Will the engine last for just as long with low running? Never owned a diesel but I want this car for 10 years atleast.

Should I still go for the diesel Ecosport?

[suku_patel_22]

Originally Posted by Ibanez_70

Now my question is I have no real budget issues and I want a fun to drive Ecosport. If I had to go with the diesel and my running is very low will it affect the engine in anyway? Will the engine last for just as long with low running? Never owned a diesel but I want this car for 10 years atleast.

Should I still go for the diesel Ecosport?

Diesel is recommended for people with 1000+ kms a month because of the cost difference between petrol and diesel engines.

There is no impact on the engine if you drive it less.

Even the 1.5 dragon petrol engine is fun to drive.

Test drive both 1.5 petrol and diesel and decide which engine you enjoy more.

[shankha007]

Originally Posted by Ibanez_70

If I had to go with the diesel and my running is very low will it affect the engine in anyway? Will the engine last for just as long with low running? Never owned a diesel but I want this car for 10 years atleast.

Should I still go for the diesel Ecosport?

Hi Ibanez_70, I was in the same boat previously. After driving both for a considerable distance, i decided to go ahead with the diesel one, if at all I choose the Ecosport, for the following reasons:

1. The torque is addictive.
2. The engine is extremely refined. Not Hyundai level, but better than others.
3. Vibrations filtering inside the cabin are a lot less than the petrol.
4. Great fuel efficiency.
5. Price difference is not all that much compared to other brands.

Coming to the less running point, just ensure the following:

1. Idle it for about thirty seconds to a minute, after every cold start
2. Do not be hard on the throttle after a cold start. Diesel engines generally take longer to reach optimum temperatures, compared to petrol engines.
3. After every trip, do not turn the engine off immediately. Give some time for the excited turbo to calm down, and you are good to go.

I am just worried about the scary oil consumption cases some users here have mentioned.

[srvm]

I do not own Ecosport. My neighbor got one in 2019, Titanium (or maybe Titanium+) Diesel. I observed something last evening which prompted me to ask this query to 2018 Facelift owners:

Last evening, my neighbor's Ecosport had its tail lamps and DRL's on (but engine off). I thought he was still inside the car but he wasn't. When I went closer, I could spot that the MID was also lit. I went up to his home and informed him about this and possible battery drain when he hurriedly went to the basement to "switch-off" the car. So, what scenario is this? What did my neighbor forget to do when leaving his car? Is this a keyless entry related?

If it helps, he migrated from WagonR(2008 make) to Ecosport in 2019.

[Funny]

Originally Posted by shankha007

I am just worried about the scary oil consumption cases some users here have mentioned.

Even I was worried about this issue but looks like it was fixed long back. I haven't observed this issue in our 2018 TDCi yet, so I assume it was addressed before the launch of the facelifted (2017) EcoSport.

Originally Posted by srvm

Last evening, my neighbor's Ecosport had its tail lamps and DRL's on (but engine off). I thought he was still inside the car but he wasn't. When I went closer, I could spot that the MID was also lit. I went up to his home and informed him about this and possible battery drain when he hurriedly went to the basement to "switch-off" the car. So, what scenario is this? What did my neighbor forget to do when leaving his car? Is this a keyless entry related?

Maybe he forgot to turn off from the accessory mode, you need to press the push-start button once more without depressing the clutch to turn off accessory mode, when in accessory mode. AFAIK, the car will anyway turn off completely after some preset time (20 mins?), so battery drain isn't an issue for such one-off cases unless you frequently repeat the same mistake.