[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by Rookie_Jeeper

. Is it a Compass thing or happens in other MJD vehicles as well like Harrier and Hector?

Yes, vehicles with tall gearing and a snappy clutch will behave the same way, including Duster 110, new Safari etc. They aren't modified suitability for our traffic conditions.

[bullitt1]

Originally Posted by arun_josie

Does this message come with any beep/alert sound? I have never seen this message. Maybe this is specific to BS6 version.

I think this is specific to BS6 version, coz i had rented Compass sport BS4 for one of the drives in North and as i recall, there were no such messages then. This might have to do with very short 1st gear and prevent engine straining. my observation is this message creeps in when car starts moving from standstill.

I have noticed this in Duster AWD as well which has very short 1st gear. Though there are no messages creeping, but the manual suggests car could be moved from 2nd gear as well.

Originally Posted by Rookie_Jeeper

There is no beep. Comes up randomly, more like a reminder than a warning.

On a related note, is it a characteristic of the MJD engine to stall very easily in the second gear? Doesn't happen to me now as I have gotten used to the engine and gear box. But coming from petrols and other diesels like XUV 500 and Creta this was surprising to me initially. Is it a Compass thing or happens in other MJD vehicles as well like Harrier and Hector?

As you said,needs getting used to to prevent stalling. For eg, if im going uphill and try to negotiate a hump in second gear, then it stalls, the same does not happen when going downhill, when i have momentum.

I had rented Harrier for one of drives in North, as far as i can remember, did not notice this behaviour.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Had my first day-drive on the Compass yesterday, from Trivandrum to Kochi and back. Couple of pictures taken by a friend during tea-break.











Couldn't really stretch it's legs on the Kerala two-lanes, looking forward to TN highways.

Originally Posted by DRIV3R

Generally, the stress on transmission/driveshaft is more in lower gears, that is the reason some cars have torque limiter maps for gears 1 & 2. (The FCA group cars powered by MJDs had it and that is the reason they were slow in those gears when compared to other cars with same engine)

Thank you. That makes sense and even I have felt the engine feels free in 3rd onwards, as compared to the initial two - even though the gearing isn't flawed as in the Punto.

However, what I'm not able to figure out is the logic as to when this message is displayed. Just seems to come and go at random, even saw in neutral last day.

Originally Posted by arun_josie

Does this message come with any beep/alert sound? I have never seen this message. Maybe this is specific to BS6 version.

Nope. No beep. Just a message on the cluster!

Also, did you notice any initial break-in period (not as per manual)? I clearly remember Punto needed around 5000kms to fully open up.

[arun_josie]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Couldn't really stretch it's legs on the Kerala two-lanes, looking forward to TN highways.

How much time did it take to cover Trivandrum - Cochin?

Yes, you will need to hit the TN highway for some spirited driving . Recently they have installed some speed cams around Madurai - Virudhunagar stretch, keep this in mind when you take this highway.

Also, did you notice any initial break-in period (not as per manual)? I clearly remember Punto needed around 5000kms to fully open up.

Here is the link to the user manual,
https://www.jeep-india.com/content/d...ser-manual.pdf

[fast&curious]

Hi Jeepers, I have a 2020 Jeep Compass, Limited Plus 2.0 in Magnesio Grey. I simply love the car. Although because I want to love the looks more, I've been thinking of getting the front grille chrome inserts blackened - matte black

Since I'm doing this for the first time, I need advice on
1. Should I get taping done at all? Does it stay on chrome, or does it come off soon.
3. What kind of tape?
4. What brand of tape? 3M is the only name I know.
5. Approx cost of taping
6. In Delhi NCR where could I get this done?
7. If there are any alternatives to taping?

Thanks in advance.

[ishaanranderia]

Since most updates are from diesel owners, thought I'd share my experience from my recent Mumbai to Goa drive in the Petrol Automatic.
The car feels extremely stable and agile while turning, quite a good cruiser. But the biggest fly in the ointment is the slow to respond automatic gearbox. It just doesn't pick the right gear quickly, dulling the acceleration. The only way to drive it, I found was to build pace gradually, or shift the gearbox into manual mode for quick overtaking.
I really wish it had paddle shifters as it would have really helped, or a sports mode option on the gearbox.
As mentioned by others the turbo petrol's mileage can vary widely based on how you drive it. I got as low as 5 kmpl in heavy city driving to almost 15 kmpl on highway cruising. These are average over long driving times from the couple of weeks of driving this car.
I really missed my octavia on the highway, its so much more fun to drive it on the open road. Having said that, I am quite happy with the Jeep overall, the suspension is great at higher speeds, the interiors are definitely much nicer than the Korean Cousins and from a segment above, the build quality is confidence inspiring. I think it will make for a good city car, which will be most of my driving case in any case. The others considering a jeep who plan to drive long distances, I'm sure would prefer the extra pulling power of the diesel.

[TaciturN]

Can someone please post the engine rpms of the BS6 Diesel Compass (Automatic/ Manual) in top gear at:

80/ 100 km/hr

Does the Automatic 9-speed have better cruising ability than the Manual 6-speed?

At what speed does the Automatic shift to top gear?

Thanks.

[Behemoth]

Originally Posted by TaciturN

Can someone please post the engine rpms of the BS6 Diesel Compass (Automatic/ Manual) in top gear at:

80/ 100 km/hr

Does the Automatic 9-speed have better cruising ability than the Manual 6-speed?

At what speed does the Automatic shift to top gear?

Thanks.

Actually it is the manual which is more efficient at crusing at 90kmph.
In my manual Bs4 compass 80kmph in 4th is at 1800 rpm. 90kmph in 5th drops to 1600 and 6th to 1500.
The most efficient rpm of the engines are 1800-2200 from fuel efficiency perspectives. When driving my manual, I hold only 4th gear till 90kmph and then shift to 5th after 90 (till 110). This is the most fuel efficient speed/rpm combination.
I get around. 19-20kmpl with this on highways.

In case of autos, it automatically shifts to higher gears and at speeds of 80/90 it moves to 8th gear and the rpm will be very low. Though the engine noise will be lower in this situation it is not fuel efficient as the turbo is not spooling enough. The turbo spool is proper only after 1800 rpm and then the engine becomes more efficient.

To get the best efficiency I put on the instantaneous efficiency display and try to keep it as high as possible.

I have followed this practice for all my turbo diesel cars (Laura / Yeti) earlier too and my Laura used to give 24-25 kmpl like this.

[Iceman33]

Originally Posted by S.Vats

Your DM isn’t activated yet I suppose, so posting my doubts here itself:
1. By headlamps, do you mean to say that the entire housing should be changed?
2. Also, Latitude model? Are you talking about the international variant?

Yes, the entire projector assembly would fit in place of the reflector assembly.
It is going to be a plug-and-play change over. The only loss is that you wont be able to use high beam signaling when the lights are off (when on you can use the signaling)

Sorry, the model I meant was Longitude not Latitude

[ACe_10]

I did not think I would be posting on this thread - but here I am.

I have been looking to upgrade my car for some time. The cars that I had been seriously considering, and waited patiently for, were the VW 2.0 cars. Kushaq/Taigun 1.5 DSG seemed to tick all the boxes - a powerful TSI engine with the the wonderful DSG gearbox packaged in a compact CSUV (a hatchback with practicality as I would like to call it). I was even open to try out the Slavia and Virtus.

However, as soon as I sat in the Kushaq, I knew something was not right. The car just did not appeal to me. Taigun and Slavia felt a lot better to be honest when I test drove them. The 1.5 DSG combination is wonderful and the VW 2.0 cars are light, peppy and practical - perfect for city driving. Its just that something in the back of head keeps saying: (a) these cars are not worth 22 lakhs (BLR prices); (b) they are not build to last - 5/6 years down the line they will be riddled with issues (I am not talking about the known devil here). Again, could be wrong, but this is what my gut keeps telling me.

This is where Jeep comes to the picture. I have always admired the Jeep Compass from afar - never really considered it personally as I (a) always thought of my self a hot hatch kind of a guy; (b) I don't really need a diesel - based on team bhp reviews I was aware that Petrol is the choice of engine (this was subsequently confirmed when I TD the Petrol AT).

Given that my primary choice let me down, my wife, who was aware of my soft spot for the Compass, suggested that we walk into a Jeep showroom and check out the car (there is a showroom very close to our house that we cross regularly).

And so we did. We TD the Diesel MT and the Petrol AT. Needless to say, the connection was immediate when I was driving the Diesel MT - something just clicked.

To me the Compass diesel doesn't make sense on paper - as mentioned above I always thought of myself as a petrol head, someone who would go for a hot hatch; it is not practical given my city usage; and lets not mention the prices yet. However, the more I drive it the more the car feels RIGHT. You can feel the car is build like a tank and each time you accelerate there is that surge of power coming through that makes you smile. The exterior size is just perfect for the city and the interiors are wonderfully done - my wife who has been getting disappointed by every car felt right at home within minutes.

So now that my heart is happy, my brain has a few follow-up questions for the members here :

a) how does the clutch in the Diesel MT hold up over time.

The first car I test drove has 1500 kms on the ODO and the clutch was fine - not the lightest but manageable. The second time I went back for a test drive, I got a different car and it had 10k on the ODO - the clutch in this car was really hard and I could feel my left leg was not liking it one bit. The sales person attributed it to the vehicle being a test drive vehicle and general abuse it had taken. He assured me that If I take care of the clutch (i.e., not ride the clutch or try to half-clutch it through traffic) it should be ok.

I am a bit concerned on this point. I also took a short test drive of the Diesel AT. Seemed really convenient in traffic. But I would be really pushing my budget for the AT.

b) How does the MT hold up on ghat roads - do you need to really work the gears to keep it in the power band?

c) are there any concerns with this Fiat 2.0 diesel engine if used primarily (70%) in the city or short trips (1-2 kms) once or twice a week?

That said, this is actually a great excuse to go on a long drive every other weekend and I intend to fully capitalize on this.

[sunikkat]

^^ As much as a manual gearbox fan I am, considering you are from Bangalore, drive 70% in the city and assuming it to be your only car I would suggest going for an AT. I have an Octavia TDI MT, though I love the car to bits on the highway, hate to drive it in the city. So had to get another auto hatchback.
So suggest to go for AT, if you can stretch. In these MTs with larger capacity engines you have to drive a lot of half clutch in Bangalore traffic and the wear and tear gonna be more.

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by sunikkat

considering you are from Bangalore, drive 70% in the city and assuming it to be your only car I would suggest going for an AT

In absolute agreement

Originally Posted by ACe_10

I am a bit concerned on this point. I also took a short test drive of the Diesel AT. Seemed really convenient in traffic. But I would be really pushing my budget for the AT.

If your Compass will see more of city traffic than highways, I would strongly suggest AT over MT. While the MT is certainly more fun to drive, given your use case, an AT will be much more convenient in the long run. With offices opening up, traffic in Bangalore will only increase - no point torturing your knee! I'd suggest that you test-drive the petrol AT as well, given that it will save you quite a few lacs compared to the diesel AT, albeit running costs will be higher. Take a call depending on your monthly running. All the best.

[arun_josie]

Originally Posted by ACe_10

So now that my heart is happy, my brain has a few follow-up questions for the members here :

a) how does the clutch in the Diesel MT hold up over time.

The first car I test drove has 1500 kms on the ODO and the clutch was fine - not the lightest but manageable. The second time I went back for a test drive, I got a different car and it had 10k on the ODO - the clutch in this car was really hard and I could feel my left leg was not liking it one bit. The sales person attributed it to the vehicle being a test drive vehicle and general abuse it had taken. He assured me that If I take care of the clutch (i.e., not ride the clutch or try to half-clutch it through traffic) it should be ok.

I am a bit concerned on this point. I also took a short test drive of the Diesel AT. Seemed really convenient in traffic. But I would be really pushing my budget for the AT.

Yes, not the lightest in the market but taking care by avoiding too much of half-clutch helps to extend its life. In my Compass, the ODO is close to 87K and still running on the stock clutch. In bumper to bumper traffic, if required I come down to 1st gear instead of using half-clutch. It is a pain though. So, for 70% city usage, you should go with AT. If not, do a proper test drive during peak traffic hours before taking a decision.

[loki]

Originally Posted by arun_josie

Does this message come with any beep/alert sound? I have never seen this message. Maybe this is specific to BS6 version.

Originally Posted by Rookie_Jeeper

There is no beep. Comes up randomly, more like a reminder than a warning.

Yup. My 2020 BS6 Diesel MT (Pre-facelift) car has it as well. No beep, just a popup on the MID which quickly disappears. Initially I used to take speed breakers in 1st gear only. But once you get the hang of it, its easy to crawl in 2nd gear as well. Just need to get used to the ratios.

Originally Posted by ACe_10

how does the clutch in the Diesel MT hold up over time.

I've done about 19k kms so far in about 18 months. About 90% on highways. I don't think there has been a noticeable difference in the effort required to operate the clutch. The main question is how will our body hold up over time. Fitness levels will definitely vary. Will agree with @arun_josie - since your use case is mostly city, get the automatic. Auto makes even more sense if you usually go through clogged / bumper to bumper stretches regularly. Or get the MT if you are willing to compromise and go through a bit of pain in the city for some pure fun on the highways / road trips. Your last point says it all.

[kartoosh]

Anyone on this forum about Jeep halting production of the new Trailhawk and the next deliveries would begin only in August-22? This seems very weird to me but want to know from this esteemed group. I am planning to buy a Trailhawk but has been given this reason by the dealers.