[Reinhard]

Boy did you just throw a big rock on a hornet's nest there buddy .

Originally Posted by sjain2054

There is no doubt that Maruti is an excellent car maker. When you drive Maruti cars, you will feel that the car is very good and very competent.

Not necessarily!!

Originally Posted by sjain2054

Eon - Alto : Eon is simple classier at that price point. the entry level car buyer gets more spacious and excellent interiors.

No comments really. Personally I'd rather wait a bit more, save up & buy something better than both of these. So no point comparing from me.

Originally Posted by sjain2054

Grandi10 - Swift: The sheer quality of the grandi10 just blows the Swift away

These don't compare in my opinion. Just plastic quality of Gi10 does not make Swift a poor car. Swift always was and still (even with the newer one being worse than old gen) is one of the funkiest looking & sportiest handling cars we can buy as the not-rich-class people. I don't mind a slightly misfitting dashboard panel of a Swift for everything else that I get with it. (I don't own a Swift. Just saying!)

Originally Posted by sjain2054

Xcent vs Dzire: The xcent quality and fit and finish are simple too good. I dont think Dzire can match the Xcent in terms of look and feel! Plus, the engines are very good too alongwith the TC unit in the petrol auto

Xcent is a bit small. Looks are quite hit and miss in its case. DZire will certainly impress everyone & not offend anyone in general.
The diesel isn't that great for Xcent. Just check the yellow plate XCents vs Dzire on inclines with people in them & you'll see what I mean.

Originally Posted by sjain2054

verna vs ciaz: I have never liked the ciaz. drove it a lot and never liked it. The feel that verna gives is a class apart. of course, the specifics such as engine, quality etc are better on the verna too. Look out for the new verna!!

The only persons that will be comfortable in a Verna will be serving in either Navy or Merchant Navy. Nobody else. Period. Rest doesn't matter at all.

Originally Posted by sjain2054

Only other car maker that can kill Hyundai is Toyota but their plans for India are very passive! Give the Indian buyer the Brazilian Etios and see if they buy anything else.

That's too harsh towards other auto makers & too optimistic towards Toyota. Its not the benchmark that it used to be in the past anymore. And then, compare with Toyota India as it is today. Not with what it "could be".

[DCEite]

Originally Posted by Aditya

Maps provided by Nokia HERE.

One correction. HERE is no longer owned by Nokia now. Its now owned by Audi, BMW and Mercedes.

[meetgds]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

Boy did you just throw a big rock on a hornet's nest there buddy .



The only persons that will be comfortable in a Verna will be serving in either Navy or Merchant Navy. Nobody else. Period. Rest doesn't matter at all.

What does that mean?

[AkMar]

Originally Posted by meetgds

What does that mean?

That is a reference to the poor handling of Verna, also referred to as "boat like". Hence the mention of navy and merchant navy men who will be used to being on board boats.

[jpcoolguy]

Excellent review as always !

The only gripe with this new gen Dzire would be the low unladen GC of 163 mm. Being an owner of another CS Xcent which has a GC of 165 mm, I can attest to the fact that it scraps almost all the bumps, when fully loaded.

[romeomidhun]

Originally Posted by sjain2054

But there is something about Hyundai cars that Maruti cars will never have. The sheer quality and class of interiors, design, engine, etc are far ahead of Maruti.

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Only other car maker that can kill Hyundai is Toyota but their plans for India are very passive! Give the Indian buyer the Brazilian Etios and see if they buy anything else.

Ho ho! Going by these "sheer class" of Hyundais, it should have garnered a much better share of the Indian market than the current 16-19%! Did it? If not, can you agree that it is the failure of Hyundai "marketing team"?

[jaaz]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Ho ho! Going by these "sheer class" of Hyundais, it should have garnered a much better share of the Indian market than the current 16-19%! Did it? If not, can you agree that it is the failure of Hyundai "marketing team"?

Not to blame Hyundai marketing team, It's the typical Indian mentality of checking in only the highest selling cars in their category. Many buyers don't even analyse their priorities. Jo diktha hai, woh biktha hai..

But, Credit also goes to Maruti, because of their feet firmly on ground. So, they made the Brand as an Insurance in itself - Peace of mind for After Sales Service. Sales is only a One time experience, but Service on an average is a 5 years experience.

[Eddy]

Guys, let's keep the discussion focused on the Dzire or, at best, comparison with its direct competitors. Thanks.

[Reinhard]

Saw a couple of new Dzires on the road today while coming to office & in my opinion, this car does NOT remind of the previous generation at all. It is a good looking, well proportioned car. I don't like the new grille design I said earlier, but this design is making the car suddenly look less Japanese and more European. The job is done well certainly in this aspect.

The low set silhouette also looks good while taking away a bit of the aggressive stance of the previous generation Swift. Looks much more contemporary on the outside.

Will be interesting the hear about the real-life scraping. I'm not convinced just yet that just the number of 163mm GC directly translates to scraping all the time. Its about how the bits and pieces are packaged & how the suspension is tuned.

[V.Narayan]

This car has better interiors and more cabin features than the Cielo did in 1996. We get more features for less money today than a mere 20 years ago. What would be the Cielo's equivalent today not just in terms of cost or size but social pecking order - Octavia? Superb? - some where around there I guess. The Cielo & Astra were the two Indian made top dogs of the 1990s. And look at this new Dzire. I wonder how the auto industry manages this constant upgrade with reduction in price. I worry that the pressure to deliver more for less will cut into the already thin margins of this industry. Good for the customer though. This mix of compactness, better leg space, interiors, zippy engine, fuel efficiency and Maruti's service will make this a home run again. It is so nice to see better and better cars becoming more affordable and embracing socio-economic strata who 15 years ago could not have dreamt of owning a car. If I were 30 years younger buying my first car I would beam with pride on this ride.- Narayan

[AJITHAAA]

Had a couple of these come up behind me during my trip to Southern Tamilnadu a couple of weeks back. Honestly I felt like the front of the new Dzire looked like the front of cars in a free downloadable game from ages ago.

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by jaaz

Not to blame Hyundai marketing team, It's the typical Indian mentality of checking in only the highest selling cars in their category. Many buyers don't even analyse their priorities. Jo diktha hai, woh biktha hai..
...

Oh so true...
Sorry.
A Friend of mine. Highly educated urban IT engineer since a decade. Purchased a top of the line Honda WRV...In the first few days when I had not really paid attention to the review of this car on TBHP, I asked him whether it has a 1.2 petrol or 1.5 from the City out of curiosity.

His answer was "No re, I don't really know I didn't really check about these details. I don't know whether it is a Honda engine".

If thats the state of the hyper-educated group, what can we say about the average buyer? So your point is spot on.

[thegodfr]

Update at 1000Km
The car had run 985kms before giving it in for the first service. Nothing much to update with respect to the service aspect.
I have red flagged one issue with respect to the engine temperature light It is suppose to be blue on a cold start and switch off once it comes to optimum running temperature as per the manual. In our car it is not happening, MASS guys also tested the same on their demo ZDI+ Dzire. But looks like it only works on a petrol Dzire, the issue has been raised with MSIL and awaiting reply.

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In the mean time I will be happy if any of the other diesel dzire owner's can confirm about the blue low engine temparature light at cold start.

[Asif 6959]

A dear friend of mine booked the Dzire in May and is still awaiting delivery. He was assured a delivery period of 45 day and now has no news on the status on the delivery. Has been getting the standard "regret the inconvenience" from the last 10 days. Even the regional reps from Maruti don't have an exact status for him.

The main reason i feel here is the recall that Maruti recently made and guess the faulty steering is being replaced is not in adequate supply from the vendor.

Anyone else facing the same issue with the deliveries?

[sree5999]

Hi All,

My Dzire VDI AGS completed 900 kms, few instances I heard of some thud sound from rear suspension when going over the speed breakers. Did any one come across the issue?
During the 1st service I have complaint the same and got update that they have verified and fixed it. I am monitoring it for now and will get back if I hear the same sound.