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Originally Posted by ZMG Creta (for a 5 seater ordinary engine over a million rupees? ), S- Cross ( Though I love it, still for a 1.6 L, paying 15 lakh rupees? )
So honestly, a price of 15 lakhs for a Honda automatic is not very bad in todays scenario. |
Just to reiterate - the Creta & the S-Cross come with 1.6L engines which do NOT get excise duty benefits.
And, since both cars are well over 4 meters in length, they do not get the excise duty benefit in this particular aspect either.
Neither have they ducked under the Ground Clearance specifications (like the XUV500) to save that small bit more in this department.
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Despite the BR-V's 4-metre+ size, it does come with a 1.5L diesel engine which helps it save 4% over the excise costs of the above-mentioned 2 cars.
You are right, though. Both the Creta & the S-Cross are/were grossly overpriced for the overall packages they offered. The S-Cross 1.6 with it's recent price cut has become exceedingly VFM, but since the Creta has tasted blood in monthly sales, Hyundai India won't be indulging in the same anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by ZMG As a consumer for cheap SUVs ( Well cheaper than Fortuner - Endy), now I am really spoilt with choices, and ones that are actually worthy and RELIABLE. |
Jumping the gun by quite a bit, aren't we?
The BR-V's long-term reliability is yet to be proved.
Not judging the product by a legendary engine which has become, quite frankly, a bit long in the tooth despite it's reliability and has been cropping up issues from it's recent 2014-avatar.
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Originally Posted by ZMG The point I was trying to make here was the Value for money.
I really don't see how these cars are VFM and BRV not, with similar engines plonked.
People are complaining about BRV being priced way too expensive, I wanted to make a point about how the market is right now. |
None of these cars are VFM, except perhaps the S-Cross 1.6 after it's price-cut. This is an all-new segment created by the Renault Duster and after people lapped it up month-after-month, car companies got greedy and started overpricing their offerings.
All the cars which followed - the EcoSport, the Terrano, the Creta, the S-Cross, even the Vitara Brezza - are overpriced for what they offer, IMO. The Vitara Brezza became such a superhit from Day 1 was because people didn't feel short-changed at even the 12-lakh OTR pricing it came with, because MSIL loaded it to the gills with everything they had in their armory.
The complaints which are coming from fellow BHPians is regarding the low-cost platform the BR-V is built upon, and the number of glaring omissions feature-wise in an otherwise thoroughly contemporary product. You get the same steering, dashboard, Head Unit, etc., as it's younger siblings the Mobilio,
the Amaze and even
the Brio (Honda Brio : Test Drive & Review) (the latter two in their latest 2016 facelifted avatars).
Seats are thin, plastics are bad, panel gaps galore, narrow width, Mobilio-esque overhang, a dash consisting of a dot-matrix styled HU display, ancient recirculation toggle mode, missing reverse sensors forget a reverse camera, partial to no cladding in the wheel wells - all these are going against the car.
At least in the Creta & the S-Cross, you don't feel shortchanged. Sure, both competitors come with a few deficiencies of their own, but their respective pros outweigh their cons. Hence the Creta, despite being the most overpriced of the lot in this particular segment, is still a strong bestseller even in the 10th month from it's launch.
The Mobilio was already overpriced from the day it was launched, hence it didn't taste success in our market. I hope BR-V doesn't go the same route.
In short, it doesn't justify the premium pricing it is commanding over Honda's thoroughly-premium C2 segment sedan, the City. Given a choice by putting a gun to my head, I would rather pick up the City (again) than the BR-V. I am getting much more premium interiors, a thoroughly modern Honda dash, bolstered seats, a fantastically wide rear bench which can accommodate 3 with ease, and a humongous boot. A car I can live with, if it didn't have all those horrible QC issues due to which I had to sell it off within 1½ years.
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Originally Posted by BUXX What does that Headunit do for Telephony exactly ??
Just play the call over the car"s speakers?!! How does one connect /disconnect a call? |
Missing buttons on the steering-wheel also means that every time you receive a call on your Bluetooth-paired phone, you have to take your eyes off the road for receiving/ending calls. Could be very, very dangerous on the roads when the car is on the move.