[jfk1975]

I have a 2016 MY 3.2L model that has done about 60K Km. Just as preventive measure, I asked the PPS Ford Mahadevapura service team to do a complete drain and full replacement of Automatic Transmission, Radiator and Differential fluids. While the Coolant and Automatic transmission fluid part numbers are straightforward, the differential fluid specifications seem to be a bit all over the place.

The PPS Ford team claims that the differential fluid and transmission fluid have some specifications for the Endeavour and they are trying to use the ATF for differentials as well. Do any of the experts happen to know the exact specifications for the differential fluid?

[Arbind Ray]

Originally Posted by jfk1975

I have a 2016 MY 3.2L model that has done about 60K Km. Just as preventive measure....Do any of the experts happen to know the exact specifications for the differential fluid?

Also as a preventive measure albeit at a modest mileage of 13633 ...I too arranged to have Diffs/Transmission fluids replaced in my 2016 Titanium 3.2 Ford Endeavour 4x4. Unsure if part numbers are universal - corresponding references shown in invoice below may shed some light on lubricants' used.

Officially Ford do not supply Ford Endeavour/Everest models here in the UK however as the engine/chassis is based on the Ford Ranger, service guidelines corresponding to these models have been used. To my knowledge there are 3 Ford Endeavours in the UK, including most recently one imported by another T-BHPian that could yield comparable notes in due course.

As an aside.... thinking of replacing rear MRF Wanderers with the newly released BF Goodrich KO3 tyres.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by jfk1975

The PPS Ford team claims that the differential fluid and transmission fluid have some specifications for the Endeavour and they are trying to use the ATF for differentials as well. Do any of the experts happen to know the exact specifications for the differential fluid?

The differential doesn’t use atf fluid, it uses a variety of 80w90 gear oil that is also suitable for differentials.

The transfer case uses ATF fluid.

For my 2018 MY 3.2 -

The front / rear axle needs 80w90 gear oil. If Ford doesn’t have that in stock get this Motul one which exactly matches the spec except it is 75w90 not 80w90 (the 75 covers 80 and anyway this lower weight 75 or 80 only comes into play in India if you’re in eg Spiti in temperatures of -30 or so)

Front axle oil - Motorcraft® SAE 80W-90 WSP-M2C197-A Premium Rear Axle Lubricant
Rear axle oil - Motorcraft® SAE 80W-90 WSP-M2C197-A Premium Rear Axle Lubricant
Rear axle - Motorcraft® Additive Friction EST-M2C118-A Modifier
Transfer case - Motorcraft® MERCON® LV WSS-M2C938-A

[jfk1975]

Originally Posted by Arbind Ray

As an aside.... thinking of replacing rear MRF Wanderers with the newly released BF Goodrich KO3 tyres.

Thank you for sharing this info, @Arbind. Switching to the topic of tires, the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO3 would be an awesome AT, assuming that you are able to source it in the right size. My understanding is that the KO3s are going to have a multi-year phased roll-out and all tire sizes might not be available right away.

Originally Posted by hserus

The differential doesn’t use atf fluid, it uses a variety of 80w90 gear oil that is also suitable for differentials.

The transfer case uses ATF fluid.

For my 2018 MY 3.2 -

The front / rear axle needs 80w90 gear oil. If Ford doesn’t have that in stock get this Motul one which exactly matches the spec except it is 75w90 not 80w90 (the 75 covers 80 and anyway this lower weight 75 or 80 only comes into play in India if you’re in eg Spiti in temperatures of -30 or so)

Front axle oil - Motorcraft® SAE 80W-90 WSP-M2C197-A Premium Rear Axle Lubricant
Rear axle oil - Motorcraft® SAE 80W-90 WSP-M2C197-A Premium Rear Axle Lubricant
Rear axle - Motorcraft® Additive Friction EST-M2C118-A Modifier
Transfer case - Motorcraft® MERCON® LV WSS-M2C938-A

This is perfect. Thanks a lot, @hserus.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by jfk1975

This is perfect. Thanks a lot, @hserus.

It is right from the endy user manual, cross check with yours - there is a page “capacities and specifications”

Btw this is the Motul one for endeavour (and any other eg Scorpio) rear differential

https://www.amazon.in/Motul-Motylgea...dp/B01M0EP5J7/

[anandseth01]

Hello Forum Members,

I am facing a strange issue in my Endeavor (2016- 3.2L). After being parked outside during a the day (in the open, but under a shade), there is strange sound coming from the left door speaker, while the engine is running. The sound is a buzzing/static sound which goes away as soon as I open the left door and comes back once the door is closed. The sound also disrupts the quality of calls received through CarPlay. While this is happening, the parking sensor alert also makes a sound as if the speaker is blown. Parking sensor sound seems to come from the front/middle speaker for the front sensors and not from the left door speaker. I don't face this issue during the morning while driving to work (car is parked overnight in the basement). I am assuming it has something to do with the heatwave, but not sure why. I intend to send it to Harpreet Ford for a review, just thought ill check if anyone on the Forum has faced this issue?

Thanks in advance.

[VJ05]

Hello Guys - I'm exploring to buy a pre owned Endeavour and have seen few dealers selling 2.2 L 2016/17 models in Delhi NCR in the range of 15-16 Lakhs. Is it the fair price for a 7-8 year old model?

[Rajain]

Originally Posted by VJ05

Hello Guys - I'm exploring to buy a pre owned Endeavour and have seen few dealers selling 2.2 L 2016/17 models in Delhi NCR in the range of 15-16 Lakhs. Is it the fair price for a 7-8 year old model?

Try going for 3.2 version. A 4x4 version 3.2 is a beast of an engine. This one vehicle can take you where a Merc S class to a Swaraj tractor will take you. There is really no terrain in which this vehicle cannot tackle.

I have personally felt a 2.2 as underpowered.

Just try to find one which has not met with any major accident.

Cheers
Rajain

[Switch]

Hey Guys,

My close friend with a 2018 Ford Endeavour is facing a very peculiar issue. Since his car came back from 60K servicing, as soon as he turns off the vehicle and he locks the same, 2 out of 10 times the right fog light Switches ON by itself.

He tried just about everything but the fog light seems to have a mind of its own. Sometimes it just Switches OFF by itself and sometimes it takes 2-3 locking and unlocking manoeuvres to switch them off. What could be the issue. The service center guys are saying its not done by them and are asking 7K just to diagnose the same. Can I get a reference to a third party service center where he can get this diagnosed and corrected. He is residing in Noida so anyone within Noida or nearby surrounding areas would be preferred.

Thanks In Advance.

[self_driven]

Guys, I will be sending my 2017 Endeavour for 1.4 lakh km service soon. It has been serviced at Ford for all these years so I've decided to continue with them for now.

This is a second hand purchase, and I've tested it thoroughly over the past 1 month that I've had it. The car drives like new apart from a minor grinding noise during braking, which I suspect is due to worn out disc pads.

As per the service history, a complete suspension overhaul was done at 1.1 lakh km wherein brake pads were also replaced. Previous owner paid a hefty bill of Rs. 2 lakh plus for that service!

The service manual suggests transmission, differential and transfer case oil to be inspected every 10k km and changed at 2.5 lakh km milestone.

In the service history, any items that I could find related to transmission oil were in the 80k km service bill only. Unfortunately there is no mention of transfer case or differential oil anywhere so I presume it hasn't been changed yet.

Since I often do casual off-roading for fun to test the vehicle's capabilities, I don't want to take any risk with the 4x4 hardware. As a precautionary measure, I'm planning to get all drivetrain fluids replaced at once. Apart from that, is there anything else that needs attention at 1.4 lakh km service, particularly related to 4x4 and AT? This is my first automatic and first 4x4 so I'm clueless about the components and their replacement intervals.

[Parameswaran]

I request advise from expert Offroaders in this forum.
During the recent heavy rains in Kerala, my Endeavour 3.2L 4x4 got stuck in mud. I changed the TMS to Mud/Snow but did not change the transmission to high or low. Also, I completely forgot about the Central Differential lock. It took me an embarrassing twenty minutes to pull out of the rut I created and would like to hear from experienced drivers what is the right procedure once you realise your car is sinking than moving. Thanks in advance.

[jfk1975]

Originally Posted by Parameswaran

During the recent heavy rains in Kerala, my Endeavour 3.2L 4x4 got stuck in mud. I changed the TMS to Mud/Snow but did not change the transmission to high or low. Also, I completely forgot about the Central Differential lock. It took me an embarrassing twenty minutes to pull out of the rut I created and would like to hear from experienced drivers what is the right procedure once you realise your car is sinking than moving. Thanks in advance.

@Parameswaran, Glad to hear that you were able to get out of a sticky, pun unintended, situation. This could get into a very detailed discussion but for the sake of simplicity, you should have prepared a bit better before you got into mud.

1. Tires: You would need decent ATs, or better yet MTs.

2. Tire pressures: You should have dropped the tire pressure down in the 15-20 PSI range. You could experiment a bit and that number can vary a bit depending on the vehicle load, type of mud etc. That low PSI is not recommended if you are using HTs. This applies mostly to AT and MT tires.

If you are already bogged, then

a. Don't panic. Stop trying to do any hard acceleration. You will simply dig yourself deeper.

b. Lower the tire pressures (approximate range listed above), but you could go even lower (10-5 PSI, if you have good MTs or ATs).

c. Switch to 4LO. Then slowly accelerate (almost crawl speeds). Use the Rear Diff lock if needed. In the Terrain Management System, it would be the Rock mode (not the Mud/Snow mode) that would force you to switch to 4LO (Transmission has to be in N for you to engage 4LO). Disable any electronic nannies (ESC etc). To the best of my knowledge, 4LO in the Endeavour disables most of the electronic nannies.

d. Accelerate out slowly. You should be able to get out of most such situations.

It would be helpful to carry a good set of traction/recovery boards and then you have tons of recovery kits that you can get which also require you have rated recovery points. These might be overkill if you only go off the beaten path occasionally.

P.S:- The T6 platform based Endeavour/Everest doesn't have a center differential lock. It has a rear differential lock.

[Parameswaran]

Originally Posted by jfk1975

@Parameswaran, Glad to hear that you were able to get out of a sticky, pun unintended, situation. This could get into a very detailed discussion but for the sake of simplicity, you should have prepared a bit better before you got into mud.

Thank you very much for your detailed reply jfk1975. That explains why I was able to come out a bit easier when I changed the TMS to Rock from Mud.
I must be knowing only a very little about my Car - I always thought it was a Central differential Lock.

[ruzbehxyz]

Originally Posted by jfk1975

This could get into a very detailed discussion but for the sake of simplicity, you should have prepared a bit better before you got into mud.

Originally Posted by Parameswaran

I must be knowing only a very little about my Car - I always thought it was a Central differential Lock.

I bought my 3.2 4x4 Endeavour in 2017 and since then I made many mistakes during offroad. Finally did lot of online research and personal experiments. The result is this thread.

Link: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-t...ml#post5268432 (Understanding 4x4 and Modern 4WD driving aids)

[madhavv]

Hi everyone,

I recently brought home a 2019 Ford Endeavour 3.2L which had done 15k at the time of purchase. I’m absolutely loving the car and it has already done a couple of long trips in the week I have had it - it’s such a pleasure to drive and be in.

I have been an avid reader on TeamBHP for years, and went through this thread in detail before the purchase as well. I have a question to owners regarding the transmission, more specifically the gearshifts.

Are gearshifts in the car supposed to be absolutely smooth to a point that they are not noticeably felt? In my case, gearshifts for the most part are extremely smooth, except occasionally on part throttle or sometimes when I lift off the accelerator. In these instances there is a very very slight knock that I can feel upon shifting to what I think is either second or third gear. It doesn’t even happen all the time, and it is very very subtle, so I’m not sure if it qualifies as a “jerk” or a “thud” that has been described in other posts relating to the flex plate issues. Not sure if this is just paranoia from having read this thread in detail, and also this being my first pre-worshipped car, or if this is something worth getting looked at.

For what it is worth, before purchase, I had the car inspected by my regular Bosch service centre where they did a test drive, OBD scan and engine bay inspection, and gave a complete green light.

Any thoughts are welcome. Thank you in advance!