[TheIndian]

^^^
Ford has already increased price of Endeavour by 50K from 1st Dec'18. 2-3 months of slow doses of such increase and by the launch of facelift, it may get a total increase of 1 or 2 Lacs and then due to new facelift launch, another increase of 50-75K !!

[Fortuner71]

By when is the new Endeavour scheduled for launch in India ? The 10 speed automatic is what iam eagerly waiting .

[TheIndian]

^^^ Recent media reports say facelift is just round the corner in first half of 2019, most probably end of Feb'19. The word on the street is that if new 2L engines are coming, then it would take 6-8 months for Ford

Originally Posted by Czarcarsm

1. Oh yes, 4 months and 8000 kms, I still haven't got used to it. So what I do now is, as soon as I open the door, I insert the key and start the car. This gives better visibility to key slot and help warm the engine before I get to put the gear into drive. Also the slot is more recessed than in other Ford cars. I think I need a key slot lighted ring. It's there in Ali Express.

@Czarcarsm,

Were you able to source that lighted ring? If yes, can you share the details - cost, pics, link to buy etc

Friends,

A clarification sought regarding Extended Warranty.

Ford website suggests that EW for 3rd & 4th Year (upto 1,00,000 kms) can be bought for Rs. 45K (incl RSA) from 0 days to 24 months. Is this understanding correct? I mean if I buy the same warranty package say after 1 month of delivery OR after 23 months, the 45K price remains unchanged, right?

[sknair]

@Mu009
"started noticing this on the way towards Spiti. At that time of course, the horn even sounded different to me (3k kms later, I'm used to just one now). But most of all, the quieter horn with a lighter press was gone - even now, that's what I'm trying to show in the video - with a significant press (not hard though) on the top parts, there's no sound.

Would be nice if recommended action could be suggested. I've seen people not bothering because of the hassle (until end of warranty) and/or worry about having stuff near airbags fiddled with. Some have had simple connectors changed, others complete assemblies (airbags included)."

I think the issue may be with the whole horn pad assembly on the steering wheel. After a while my horn wouldn't sound if I press on some specific areas on the horn pad. Now I got it replaced under warranty, I can see the issue has slightly differently manifested again. On another area I need to press really hard to get the horn sound. Probably I should get it checked again.

Btw. Changing the horn pad assembly is really straight forward, the whole thing comes as a replacement part including the airbag. They have to unclip a few locks and disconnect the electric sensor wires and then remove the old one and replace with the new one.

[commander]

Bought a pre owned Ford Endeavour 2017 last month and after having completed 5000 kms I am simply in love with it. The car has done 55k on the odo and runs as good as new. Having owned the Ikon, Fiesta and all new fiesta I would say Ford makes some really good cars. The only doubt is how they consistently manage to find bad dealers? Dealers winding up the business has become a common trend at Ford.

A year ago traded my all new fiesta for a pre owned Corolla Altis due to the falling standards of the Ford service centers. Decided to trade my GT Tsi as i was opening a new venture and was pretty sure it was going to be an Octavia vRs. Somehow in conversation with a friend I got to know of an endy that was available at a great price. Did a test drive and immediately sold the GT for this car. My preference going forward will be towards lateral upgrades.

Dropped in at 3M Car care for detailing, interior, PPF for bonnet and front/ rear bumpers.

My brother who owns the all new fortuner (done about the same odo) took this car out he gladly accepted that this car is a notch above. A few parameters in my opinion:

1. Engine and gearbox: In terms of performance I think they are on par. In bumper to bumper speeds the Endy takes a longer to respond than the fortuner. Love the sound on the endy engine especially while exiting toll plazas. It has a distinctive growl.


2. Looks: Both have their own style with the fortuner being more chiseled whereas the Endy is a big built. I think the endy gathers more looks maybe due to lower numbers.

3. Refinement: This is one are the Endy scores big on the Fortuner. The active noise cancellation is an excellent feature from Ford. In cruising speeds the cabin is dead silent. Feels a little like my Tsi I have always preferred to drive the Fortuner in Eco mode only.

4. Mileage: No matter how hard I push the Fortuner it returns a decent 10. The endy not so much. Lowest that I have got on the highway is 8.75kmpl.

5. Ride & Handling: The ride quality in the endy is couple of segments above the Fortuner. The fortuners feels more nimble in city traffic than the endy. The endy and the fortuner are decent on the highway but I think they Endy has a slight edge.

6. Interiors: The interiors and the dash are well put together in both. The seat colors are better in the Fortuner than the beige option of the endy. Apart from the front seats the rest of the seating in the 2nd and 3rd rows feel a lot more comfier in the fortuner. My point on the last row access and seating for the endy is that people who find the access difficult can forget going there. Only those who fit in can sit in. The sunroof is a great hit with kids.

7. Service & Resale: We all know the story here. Will be dropping for the 60k service in a week. Fortuner wins.




With Big brother.

[TheIndian]

Took delivery of 3.2 Diamond White Endy last evening. Going on a 275+275 kms highway drive in week-end

PS: Yesterday while driving it, felt a slight vibration feel in accelerator pedal only just when the car tries hard in gear 1 & 2 to pick up speed. Is this normal

[Mu009]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Yesterday while driving it, felt a slight vibration feel in accelerator pedal only just when the car tries hard in gear 1 & 2 to pick up speed. Is this normal

Yes sir, perfectly normal. This is a known "issue" with the Ford Everest/Ranger/Endeavour internationally. It will certainly reduce over time - after your 1st oil change, say. It is more pronounced in sports mode, and especially pronounced when you try to very gently (on the throttle) maintain your speed up an incline. The (brand new) test drive vehicle I experienced was almost exactly the same.

Mine has certainly reduced greatly - up to the point where I can't feel it through my (extremely light soled) shoes anymore. I can still feel it under heavy acceleration with flip flops, and a near constant (but now rather subtle), pleasant thrum on a bare foot.

I don't think there's a solution. You can find a few posts in the forum here too, no luck for them. Internationally too, from what I remember from my searches, there were few replacements of the throttle assembly etc, but not much of a difference. In fact, once I started enjoying the feel so much (something tactile in an otherwise so cocooned experience), I stopped bothering about it - which leads me to ask others here too (since, like an idiot, I never even bothered to check) - how about your trucks? Mild and/or warranted? Excessive and/or unfixable? Non-existent? Got "fully" and "permanently" fixed after some action initiated?

Originally Posted by sknair

I think the issue may be with the whole horn pad assembly on the steering wheel. After a while my horn wouldn't sound if I press on some specific areas on the horn pad. Now I got it replaced under warranty, I can see the issue has slightly differently manifested again. On another area I need to press really hard to get the horn sound. Probably I should get it checked again.

Btw. Changing the horn pad assembly is really straight forward, the whole thing comes as a replacement part including the airbag. They have to unclip a few locks and disconnect the electric sensor wires and then remove the old one and replace with the new one.

Thanks for your response. I recall it was you who let it be for quite a time since you didn't want stuff fiddled with in an airbag proximity area. Which was exactly my concern too. You and n.devdath have certainly cleared that worry up for me.

As for what transpired - the service centre did some horn testing (as I was leaving - I have started to trust them a little by now, and I didn't stay for the service this time), and it was mentioned that they tightened a coupler. Things have improved certainly - no more soundless presses, but the left side still remains hard. SA offered I check in other vehicles. I thanked him for the offer and declined for now. I'll wait and watch. But I trust them to have actually done something (not only because I can feel a tangible difference), rather than just claim they tightened something.

I will wait for now (quite a bit of warranty period left), and see. The left side still feels tighter - but then again, haven't done a conclusive test of force applied.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by Mu009

- how about your trucks? Mild and/or warranted? Excessive and/or unfixable? Non-existent? Got "fully" and "permanently" fixed after some action initiated?

Non-existent, and even if it did to a neglible extent, I wouldnt have bothered about it.

I look at the Endy as an old fashioned, big engined, lazy geared, reliable truck with a few features splattered onto it, not some European damsel which will make me twitch at such minute stuff.

[sknair]

@Mu009, my truck is from 2015, I did not have the problem of the accelerator pedal vibrations till now or at least it wasn't noticable. After the PCM update this time, I can certainly feel a very light pedal vibration in first or second gear in slow acceleration. But on the positive side, the acceleration has become more smooth and there is always power available for any acceleration for overtaking vs a slight bit of lag earlier.

[Myk.b]

Hi everyone,
My first post in this group although I have been following the posts for over a year. I have a one year old 3.2 white titanium. Recently back from a 2000kms round trip to Dhanushkodi and Munnar. The car is behaving just fine and love everything about it.
During my drive a very weird issue popped up. The rear left speaker started crackling loudly and producing noise. I tried to turn off the car and restart but it wouldn't go away. It was producing noise even with ignition off. We had a terrible time for one complete day until I landed at the Madurai service center and asked them to unplug the speaker. It goes for a 20k service today and hopefully they will find a solution for it. Will keep you all posted.

[Mu009]

Originally Posted by Myk.b

During my drive a very weird issue popped up. The rear left speaker started crackling loudly and producing noise. I tried to turn off the car and restart but it wouldn't go away. It was producing noise even with ignition off. We had a terrible time for one complete day until I landed at the Madurai service center and asked them to unplug the speaker. It goes for a 20k service today and hopefully they will find a solution for it. Will keep you all posted.

Most likely the service centre should be able to fix what is apparently a known issue - the noise cancelling system acting up. Just like in headphones, the noise cancelling in the Endeavour is achieved by playing opposing sound waves from speakers (to noise waves of certain frequencies picked up by mics) - and there have been reported cases of this system behaving as such in certain cases (YouTube videos are available too).
It shouldn't be much of a problem at all, and the service centre should be able to fix it easily. That said, my point with this post is to just convey this to them, in the unlikely event that they are unaware of this.
Cheers!

[TheIndian]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Took delivery of 3.2 Diamond White Endy last evening. Going on a 275+275 kms highway drive in week-end
PS: Yesterday while driving it, felt a slight vibration feel in accelerator pedal only just when the car tries hard in gear 1 & 2 to pick up speed. Is this normal

Had an amazing 1st quick Road trip in Endy. Bliss. As smooth as butter. 
(New car excitement + Post Purchase reinforcement  )

Went to meet my nephew who came from US on a short visit. When I mentioned that I have foregone the forthcoming facelift version with 10 Speed AT GB, he said that the GB is awesome and he had driven it in F-150

Then he drove my car and said 3.2 engine is like wow

On that slight vibration feel on accelerator pedal, he said it’s normal and is kind of “feedback”

Originally Posted by Mu009

Yes sir, perfectly normal. This is a known "issue" with the Ford Everest/Ranger/Endeavour internationally. It will certainly reduce over time - after your 1st oil change, say. It is more pronounced in sports mode, and especially pronounced when you try to very gently (on the throttle) maintain your speed up an incline. The (brand new) test drive vehicle I experienced was almost exactly the same.

[Tarmac.terrorist]

Which obd port reader and app do you guys recommend for endeavour 3.2? That supports android.

[n.devdath]

Nandi (Endeavour 3.2)came back from a 2300km round trip to a few temples and Pondicherry.

Here is the lowdown: -

1. Overall FE: - 9.8kmpl.
2. Roads - 50 % 4/6 laners, the rest horrendous single carriageways and city roads.
3. Passengers: - 4 adults.
4. Speeds maintained: - 4/6 laners 100-110kmph, other roads, whatever God permitted.
5. AC: - 100% On all the time.
6. Luggage: - Lots.

All was well except 2 small scratches made by a valet(this was one of the super rare occasions when a valet gets to touch any of my vehicles) on the LH rear bumper by scraping it against a wall, resulted in a spoilt mood.

[b]This is after pre-treatment


Painted and back to form


Secondly, a reasonably (3" dia) stone hit the roof at high speeds on the highway at night. While we were lucky it missed the windshield and the sunroof, it has created a dimple on the roof, which is unfixable now.

Took quotes from the recommended Trend Automotive and the ASC. Trend quoted 2k and the ASC, 3. Since I had a free wash coupon and the truck was very dirty, took it to the ASC, got the nick fixed, Nandi washed and polished and brought him back home.

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

All was well except 2 small scratches made by a valet(this was one of the super rare occasions when a valet gets to touch any of my vehicles) on the LH rear bumper by scraping it against a wall, resulted in a spoilt mood.

Let's see for how many years you will repaint small scratches