[TheIndian]

Have finalised the booking yesterday for Endy 3.2

And today morning someone sent me a link saying the facelift Endy which is expected in Feb'19 (or early 2019) is most likely to come with the new 2L Bi-Turbo engine Checked various Auto websites. Earlier, till Sep'18, all their reports mentioned that the current Engines will continue in facelift without any change. Now all their reports around 20th Nov'18, mentions that new 2L Bi-Turbo engines will debut in India in this facelift

Am in dilemma now whether to go ahead with the booking or to hold it and wait for facelift

Originally Posted by A.G.

I am not sure if Ford has changed the seat design among other changes between your and mine Endeavour but in mine it is not possible to remove the headrest by simply pulling it. There is an additional lock which needs to be pressed with a small tool / screwdriver to completely remove the headrest from the seat.

That's why I asked. There is some kind of locking mechanism (apart from standard push) now without which Headrest is not coming out completely

[Acelerar]

Folks, unfortunate incident happened with my Endy 3.2. During test drive after service, the service guys hit the pick up van from behind and as a result the bumper and the white covering above fog light got dented and there are some paint scratches The service manager took full responsibility for the fix but he said that he will try to remove dents first and if it does not happen, he will go for new bumper.

Attached is the picture! The dent is protruded outwards in the bumper and paint scratch marks on white covering over fog light. Do you guys think if they remove the dent and repaint, will it have the original look with no difference in paint texture? I want to insist for the full bumper replacement but before that wanted to get your input.

[debuda]

Originally Posted by Acelerar

Do you guys think if they remove the dent and repaint, will it have the original look with no difference in paint texture? I want to insist for the full bumper replacement but before that wanted to get your input.

The damage looks minor. IMHO, denting / painting should be fine.

[Tanveer_2558]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Am in dilemma now whether to go ahead with the booking or to hold it and wait for facelift

I was also about to book one, But decided to hold off till the facelift comes out, Would suggest the same unless you really want the 3.2 engine now, I think 2 litre twin turbo'd engine with more power than 3.2 should keep me sufficiently happy and more features added in the facelift is always welcome.

[debuda]

A few weeks ago, I sent the following mail to Ford India Customer Care :

"While perusing my User Manual, I came across the following diagram which shows a K-truss towards the forward part of the ladder frame. However, in my car there is a transverse beam in place of this this K-truss.

It appears that the design of the ladder frame has been changed and the K-truss has been done away with. I would like to know the reason for the same."

After a reminder, I received the following reply from Ford India :

"We would like to inform you that Ford Endeavour meets all applicable regulatory requirements on safety and has not undergone any change since its India introduction in 2016.

The difference in design and equipment are subject to local statutory requirements and may vary between countries as a common industry practice.

Request you to drive the vehicle with complete confidence on the product we will back it up with prompt and quality services through our dealership."

I found the response from Ford logical / reasonable.

[TheIndian]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Am in dilemma now whether to go ahead with the booking or to hold it and wait for facelift

Going ahead with the booking

[roby_dk]

Originally Posted by debuda

It appears that the design of the ladder frame has been changed and the K-truss has been done away with. I would like to know the reason for the same.

Hope you have not missed below thread. There is already a lot of discussion happened around this.


https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post4407413 (Pics: Chassis of Indian Ford Endeavour has less support than the international version!)

[sridharp77]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Going ahead with the booking

Congrats. If you don't mind please share the breakup and the discounts offered.

[Surprise]

Originally Posted by Tanveer_2558

I think 2 litre twin turbo'd engine with more power than 3.2 should keep me sufficiently happy and more features added in the facelift is always welcome.

Do you anticipate any hike in prices? At different platforms, it was mentioned there will be substantial price hike, if Ford is to get this into market. In that case, will both the current model and new one co-exists?

[sandeepmdas]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Going ahead with the booking

Right decision IMHO, since you're going for the top-end model. The 3.2 is VFM when you consider price/performance/features vs. the Toyota. Maybe you should negotiate a bit, as the model is outgoing.

I've read numerous reports that the facelifted 2019 version may / might offer the 2.0L engine in two different state of tunes, i.e. 182PS/420Nm and 215PS/500Nm (with twin-turbo) and the top-of-the-line variant would come with 20-inch wheels.

Needless to say, the pricing can go only north.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by Acelerar

Do you guys think if they remove the dent and repaint, will it have the original look with no difference in paint texture?

It can be repaired, however, the bend on the bumper will need heat treatment for it to be removed and I would advice you make sure they know what they are doing.
Too much heat, and the that area would lose its strength, too less, and it wont come back to shape. If they can do it without heat, should not be an issue.

BTW, which service centre is this and which area?

Originally Posted by Tanveer_2558

I think 2 litre twin turbo'd engine with more power than 3.2 should keep me sufficiently happy and more features added in the facelift is always welcome.

It does sound yummy with better FE figures, however..

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Going ahead with the booking

I second your decision because: -

1. The 3.2 is a tried, tested, trusted engine which has been around for quite a few years now, which makes me confident about it, compared to a new engine.
2. The 2.0 Biturbo is a very tech intensive motor and I am yet to see how it performs in our bad fuel and field conditions over a long term ownership.
3. I am a reasonably firm believer in the saying "There is no replacement for displacement."

Originally Posted by sandeepmdas

Needless to say, the pricing can go only north.

Bang On...!!!

[vigneshkumar31]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

Going ahead with the booking

Go for it! The 3.2 is the best value in segment as things stand today. You can't go wrong with it.
Waiting can only be a frustrating game..., you don't want to play if you have already decided to bring it home.

[Acelerar]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

It can be repaired, however, the bend on the bumper will need heat treatment for it to be removed

Thanks Devdath. I will discuss this with the Service Manager. It is Metro Ford service, Lingarajapuram.

[TheIndian]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

I second your decision because: -

1. The 3.2 is a tried, tested, trusted engine which has been around for quite a few years now, which makes me confident about it, compared to a new engine.
2. The 2.0 Biturbo is a very tech intensive motor and I am yet to see how it performs in our bad fuel and field conditions over a long term ownership.
3. I am a reasonably firm believer in the saying "There is no replacement for displacement."

The word on the street is that the 2L Bi-Turbo engine may not be as punchy as beasty 3.2L. It could be somewhere between 2.2 & 3.2

FE would be mouth watering though

Originally Posted by sandeepmdas

Needless to say, the pricing can go only north.

May not be. Ford can't afford to increase price against intense competition with Toyota Fortuner. Endy numbers are anyways not increasing

[sandeepmdas]

Originally Posted by TheIndian

May not be. Ford can't afford to increase price against intense competition with Toyota Fortuner.

Toyota is ready to provide them room for a price hike, as they're hiking their prices.

Toyota Likely To Increase Prices Of Fortuner By Over Rs. 1.2 Lakh In January.
https://gaadiwaadi.com/toyota-likely...kh-in-january/