[nandab]

Has anyone faced a rollback issue with Baleno CVT on steep inclines in Bangalore roads? Especially since Hill Hold Assist / Hill Brake Assist is not present in Baleno. Polo / Ameo / Figo DCT all have this feature.

I have more or less finalized on Baleno Zeta CVT except for this potential problem.

[vivekgk]

Good to know that the waiting periods are coming down. I was initially totally sold on the baleno delta, but i was considering several others because of the extended delays. Is it possible to choose any/all variants? I just want a petrol/diesel baleno above sigma. That might bring down the waiting!

I have been contacted by the new dealership here, and good news is they are promising a greatly reduced waiting period for the initial bookings because they are a new dealership and will get assured allotment.

[noopster]

I don't understand the question. Conventional automatics have torque creep in D mode that makes need for a hill hold function superfluous. Don't CVTs behave that way?

[Sankar]

Doesn't even CVTs have torque converter at the flywheel side? I read that Toyota CVT does.

[libranof1987]

I'm not sure how the CVT on Baleno behaves but on the EcoSport, the hill hold assist ensures the car doesn't roll back for only 3 sec; after which it will, unless you accelerate/brake.

[LithiumSunset]

I don't think it should be a problem at all. If you are used to driving a manual transmission without hill hold assist you'll be fine without it in a cvt too. It's just a matter of getting used to the pedal work. In this case there's one pedal less to 'worry' about.

A Google search tells me that hill hold assist senses the pitch of the car and keeps the brake engaged for a couple of seconds after releasing the brake pedal. But I can confirm that in the GT tsi there's no pitch sensor because the feature is in play all the time and a bit bothersome in stop and go traffic. If anything you may be actually better off in the Bangalore traffic. For inclines pedal work will suffice.

[dhanushs]

Hi, I think you can safely go for Baleno CVT without worrying about the car rolling back on inclines. Just use the brakes till the car starts moving forward.

[Sudhindra]

Originally Posted by Sudhindra

Booked Baleno Petrol Delta Ray blue on 21st May at Bimal Nexa. My RM has given a waiting period of 24 - 28 weeks. Has not given this in writing or not mentioned in booking receipt. Is this fine to trust his words or should i get it in writing?

Just called up my RM to get any update. He said "Maruti plant is shutdown for maintenance till June 20th, no updates as of now" and asked me to call him sometime next month first week.
I am seriously rethinking about canceling this booking and look at other options. very much in confused state as Wifey is behind punto evo (having already owned GP MJD), myself impressed with new Ford Figo TDCI and the need for some car in a month or so.

[nandab]

Thanks to everyone for your comments/response.

Originally Posted by LithiumSunset

If you are used to driving a manual transmission without hill hold assist you'll be fine without it in a cvt too.

My current car (Palio 1.6) has a great low end torque. As such, I didn't really face the need to switch between A/B pedals. Just clutch + brake did the trick almost always.

Originally Posted by dhanushs

Hi, I think you can safely go for Baleno CVT without worrying about the car rolling back on inclines. Just use the brakes till the car starts moving forward.

Hopefully. The only issue is if you are parked / stopped on an incline. In a manual, you get a feel for the spot which keeps the vehicle balanced with just the clutch + brake. At that point, you can just ease off brake to get the vehicle to move. Not sure how I get the same feeling in AT.

Originally Posted by NPV

Suggest you test drive the car on hilly roads in Bangalore like Padmanabha nagar, Banashankari, Raja Rajeshwari nagar, etc to get a first hand idea.

Nexa allows only for short TD these days. Yes, the sensible thing to do - even a basement ramp should suffice.

Originally Posted by csnanjappa

If Baleno CVT works similar to i10 CVT Automatic (2010 model) i don't think you have to worry.

I think i10 has the conventional TC and not a CVT.

[NPV]

Originally Posted by nandab

Nexa allows only for short TD these days.

Try telling them assertively that you need a test drive on inclined roads before making your decision, they should oblige. Are there any Nexa dealerships in one of those areas in Bangalore that I mentioned ?

[VeyronSuperSprt]

My neighbour bought a Baleno CVT and asked me for my opinion after he bought it !! Needless to say I drove it and told him its a good car etc.

But here's my actual opinion: the rubber band effect in the CVT of the Baleno is H U G E. It's not just the rubber band effect - in comparison to the regular petrol Baleno this feels like it's got the handbrake partially pulled all the time. It's that sluggish.

Forget about the problem of hill hold - with the sluggishness on tap, it would take some time for it to decide whether it has to roll down or go up a hill. So it's got a built in hill hold in its sluggishness.

The regular petrol on the other hand has quite a good feel with a nice exhaust note when you're revving the car.

Absolutely no comparison, it's two different worlds. Bottom line - hill hold is probably the least of your worries with a CVT.

[sathish81]

Originally Posted by nandab

Has anyone faced a rollback issue with Baleno CVT on steep inclines in Bangalore roads? Especially since Hill Hold Assist / Hill Brake Assist is not present in Baleno. Polo / Ameo / Figo DCT all have this feature.

I have more or less finalized on Baleno Zeta CVT except for this potential problem.

Hi I own a CVT delta. The baleno does not have hill hold assist, however if you turn on "sports" mode and put gear in "L" it should prevent the car from rolling back the moment you release the brakes. I used this technique in couple of places in yercaud where traffic had stopped on relatively steep inclines.

[djpeesh]

Originally Posted by sathish81

Hi I own a CVT delta. The baleno does not have hill hold assist, however if you turn on "sports" mode and put gear in "L" it should prevent the car from rolling back the moment you release the brakes. I used this technique in couple of places in yercaud where traffic had stopped on relatively steep inclines.

There's no need for that. The moment you lift your foot from the brake, the car starts creeping forward. I've never had an issue of rolling back. Btw, our Baleno has done 5k km (all thanks to me). My xuv is feeling very unloved.

[Shiv_1984]

Finally, goodbye to Baleno. Cancelled my booking today at Kalyani Nexa, Blore.

The RM was most eager to get the cancellation process get completed. Made me confused as to whether these guys earning commission on cancellations too . Alls well that ends well.

[sathish81]

Originally Posted by djpeesh

There's no need for that. The moment you lift your foot from the brake, the car starts creeping forward. I've never had an issue of rolling back. Btw, our Baleno has done 5k km (all thanks to me). My xuv is feeling very unloved.

Djpeesh

In hilly regions it does rollback in "drive" mode in stop and go traffic on inclines - the creep function in drive mode does not solve that problem. The creep function in L gear with sports mode on gives the car enough power to move forward on inclines.
I know this from practical experience