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Originally Posted by comfortablynumb (Post 4381640)
Congratulations on your new vehicle! The simplest way to make a Scorpio less bouncy or prone to body roll is to load it with weight - either people or a sack filled with sand at the back. A full Scorpio is smoother to drive than one with only 1 or 2 people in it :)

Best possible advice! This is for family trips, my Fiesta suits me just fine for my usual solo cruising (which is back and forth between Chennai and Bangalore once a month) so no fear about a less loaded vehicle.

My daughter gets carsick if the windows are left closed and AC is on. My son gets carsick if the windows are open. Both tend to get carsick in a body rolling environment. So while I can't do much about the windows situation besides giving them lemon flavoured sweets to suck, I am sure some body roll issues can be sorted out.

32 psi for all 4 tyres? Sounds like a plan, thank you!

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Originally Posted by Sheel (Post 4366096)
But it doesn't specify if it is an H4 or H7, any detail on that?

The fog lamp is a H8 35W as far as I can see, could be wrong of course.

Easier to just go to your local dealer & ask, it should be easy to figure out once they remove the fog lamp bulb and check what it is.

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Originally Posted by hserus (Post 4381632)
I'm acquiring a used 2015 S10 with a bit less than 41k on the clock from

While it is the newer variety of Scorpio there's still some amount of body roll.

What works best to dampen out the body roll?

1. 3rd party shocks from ARC?
2. Rogerab coil spring dampers?

As a new TUV 300 owner, with the same bounce and roll as a Scorpio, I have run also mentally through sandbags in the back and Rogerabs polyurethane dampers. The ARC shocks are doable in your case, provided the Scorpio is out of warranty. The Rogerabs can be fitted even if it's under warranty, as it's a plug and play fitment which can be removed before taking it to an OEM-authorized service center.

The unknown with Rogerabs is the effect it'll have on the springs in the suspension. Theoretically, it should cause bending of the springs, since a part of the spring is seldom used where the damper is fitted. In the international market, there have been reports of such damage. On the other hand, in GTO's thread on suspension dampers, I have seen at least one user state that they have used softer rubber dampers (not from Rogerabs, which uses harder polyurethane dampers) uneventfully for 5+ years.

XUV owners have tried Rogerabs and removed it, saying there's no effect, aside from increasing its height. Captain Rex has, though, been using it on his TUV 300.

There, I've done my part to contribute absolutely nothing to you stupid:

Congrats, by the way. It's a mouth-watering car you got there.

That same confusion is what drove me to ask.

As you say, rubber dampers rather than PU ones might be a better idea. They’ll last rather less long compared to Rogerab but cheap at the price if it doesn’t bend springs.

Congrats on the vehicle. Blue is a great colour for this car. I wish M&M had improved the interior plastic quality though.

Will be good if you can share details of price as well as experience with VJ cars given its your 2nd purchase from them ( and in general everyone talks poorly of used car dealers - so there must be something really good about these chaps to get the repeat business from you ).

Hows the tread life in the tyres ? Will last another 20k ?

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Originally Posted by hserus (Post 4381693)
As you say, rubber dampers rather than PU ones might be a better idea. They’ll last rather less long compared to Rogerab but cheap at the price if it doesn’t bend springs.

Some more (unsolicited) advice from me. After you get the car home, use it for a month or so with your family before you finalize anything w.r.t 3rd party shocks/Rogerab dampers. You never know, after a few trips in it under your belt, you might find that the bounce and roll is not as bad as you (& the family, of course) thought after all.

Cheers,
Vikram

P.S: The vehicle looks smashing! :thumbs up

The tyres are under 5 km worn - each still has all the buttons and a 2017 date stamped on it.

My experience with vj cars process when buying my Fiesta is on the thread I created on TBHP - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/chenna...s-chennai.html

I don’t think he will have changed his processes in the time between last June when I got the Fiesta and now so that thread should be fine :).

He charges a premium for clean and trouble free cars but even so I was able to negotiate to a certain extent. I would have got the car cheaper elsewhere but would have to triple check for tampered odo, abused vehicle etc - he just doesn’t stock such cars.

Note - after the tbhp thread above he has received multiple enquires and also, he says, at least three or four buys, from people who read the review so he’s very aware of BHP now and what it can do to boost his reputation if he does a good job.

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Originally Posted by narayan (Post 4381850)
Congrats on the vehicle. Blue is a great colour for this car. I wish M&M had improved the interior plastic quality though.

Will be good if you can share details of price as well as experience with VJ cars given its your 2nd purchase from them ( and in general everyone talks poorly of used car dealers - so there must be something really good about these chaps to get the repeat business from you ).

Hows the tread life in the tyres ? Will last another 20k ?


That's neat. so the previous owner had changed tyres at 35k kms - quite early but good for you.

I guess you don't want to disclose the price of the vehicle in the forum ? Sorry if i missed noticing it elsewhere if mentioned

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Originally Posted by narayan (Post 4381885)
That's neat. so the previous owner had changed tyres at 35k kms - quite early but good for you.

I guess you don't want to disclose the price of the vehicle in the forum ? Sorry if i missed noticing it elsewhere if mentioned

Stock fitted car tyres usually being cheaper JK / MRF types, I seriously doubt anyone maintaining his car in this immaculate condition would want to continue with them for more than 30-35K km.

Mods sorry for the back to back post.

I just took delivery and look at the key - this explains the immaculate condition and Dueler tyres I guess.

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Originally Posted by comfortablynumb (Post 4381859)
Some more (unsolicited) advice from me. After you get the car home,

P.S: The vehicle looks smashing! :thumbs up

I fully agree with Vikram. Initially my son used to complain about some giddiness while sitting in the second row. But now no more complaints from him even on long journeys.

And heartiest congratulations to you for the Scorpio.
Can you please share the price breakup that you had to pay?

Regards

Vikas

By the way - what’s the procedure to reset the “vehicle needs service” alert that displays on the HU? I will be doing my services for this at a FNG for the most part so .. had better ask.

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Originally Posted by hserus (Post 4383291)
what’s the procedure to reset the “vehicle needs service” alert that displays on the HU? I will be doing my services for this at a FNG for the most part so .. had better ask.

From what I know, you can reset it via the OBD, not yourself. A good FNG has the equipment.

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Originally Posted by Sheel (Post 4383308)
From what I know, you can reset it via the OBD, not yourself. A good FNG has the equipment.

Yup thanks. My FNG does have an OBD - I just have to remind him to reset it.

This is something that's bitten me even at an authorised (Ford) dealer, where they did a 30K service on my Fiesta & then forgot to reset the indicator so a low oil pressure warning light came on some days later when I was in the middle of nowhere on a long drive.

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Originally Posted by Sheel (Post 4383308)
From what I know, you can reset it via the OBD, not yourself. A good FNG has the equipment.

Yup thanks. My FNG does have an OBD - I just have to remind him to reset it.

This is something that's bitten me even at an authorised (Ford) dealer, where they did a 30K service on my Fiesta & then forgot to reset the indicator so a low oil pressure warning light came on some days later when I was in the middle of nowhere on a long drive.

(edit) That said the ride is remarkably smooth - I don't think I need Rogerab or anything else for this car for now. Mahindra has certainly done a great job over the older Scorpio.

Update - back to back post but after several days - I have fitted a reverse camera to the scorpio.

Camera from Aliexpress seller Navitech Store from whom I got an excellent android HU, dash cam and reverse cam for my all new Fiesta.

http://s.aliexpress.com/VfmyQnyq

An adapter cable was required to connect the camera’s RCA jacks to the back of the Scorpio HU, and the camera needed to be enabled in the vehicle ECU, which I got done at a Mahindra ASS

The camera now works great, HD quality picture.


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