[m3t4ph0r1c]

"Outside Temperature" display stuck at 20 degrees

After a wash at a car wash service, where they had to clean the engine bay because rats had caused a stink there, the outside temperature display seems to be stuck at 20 degrees now.
I have tried spraying WD40 over electrical components in the bay to remove moisture, however I am not able to locate the sensor. Any ideas where the sensor is located, please?

If anyone else has faced this issue, would this temperature sensor need replacement now? or should I just wait it out and hope for it to resolve itself?

[mukeshgoel]

ORVMs in my Honda City (2017) are opening closing randomly when the switch is ON (they are closed when the switch is OFF). I think the switch is defective.

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Anybody else faced this problem?

Anybody knows the part number of this switch? Boodmo is not showing part name and does not have it in stock.

[satchit_bhp]

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if it's possible to update the car software for the Honda City iDtec 2015? If anyone has done this, did it help in any way?
Thanks!

[CTA_35]

Dear BHPians,
Just got my 2019 honda city's rear windshield broken when parked in front of my home. Wanted to know how much it would cost for a new windshield with defogger and will this be covered in a b2b comprehensive insurance?. If it's covered, should I go with the insurance claim?. Kindly advice.

[CityRyder]

Hello - Today I sent my 2015 Honda city for service. I have been getting periodic service from local garrage for last 4 years so thought this time to send to Honda service for full check up (Dakshin Homda in Bangalore). It was making some noise from co-passenger seatbelt side so I was expecting some repair there.

Supervisor called back that there are multiple part changes required - seat belt and seat frame (which are worn out and need change for stopping the noise) - Rs 6k+16k, front suspension change - Rs 25k, Cowl top - Rs 2.8K, Brake pads and disc - Rs 11k, paid service for 12k (incl all oil changes). In all he quoted me Rs 85k. Which I found high and dont want to spend that much 10 year old vehicle (thinking to sell off this in next 2 years).

I am willing to repair, are there workshops outside which can fit Honda genuine parts? I am sure Honda service is charging me much higher than other service vendors. Any recommendations how to manage this?

[for_cars1]

Originally Posted by CityRyder

- seat belt and seat frame (which are worn out and need change for stopping the noise) - Rs 6k+16k, front suspension change - Rs 25k, Cowl top - Rs 2.8K, Brake pads and disc - Rs 11k, paid service for 12k (incl all oil changes). In all he quoted me Rs 85k. Which I found high ... Any recommendations how to manage this?

Its a no brainer that most ASCs over inflate the bill, but the vehicle condition remains top notch only via the ASC route.

- There is no point of 6k+16k job.
- Suspension change is needed only if you're experiencing a rattling sound from the struts.
- Cowl top replacement is only for aesthetics and not needed.
- Brake discs typically should last 60K kms and brake pads about 30K. Check the usage and whether there is wheels trembling during braking at speeds.
- Paid service is the necessary job.

[CityRyder]

Originally Posted by for_cars1

Its a no brainer that most ASCs over inflate the bill, but the vehicle condition remains top notch only via the ASC route.

- There is no point of 6k+16k job.
- Suspension change is needed only if you're experiencing a rattling sound from the struts.
- Cowl top replacement is only for aesthetics and not needed.
- Brake discs typically should last 60K kms and brake pads about 30K. Check the usage and whether there is wheels trembling during braking at speeds.
- Paid service is the necessary job.

Thank you. Are Honda genuine parts available outside of ASCs? How can I get them? Some parts need change and I am willing to spend.

[for_cars1]

Originally Posted by CityRyder

..Are Honda genuine parts available outside of ASCs? .

Unfortunately, Honda genuine parts are not available outside of ASCs.

A few years back, one of the headlight bulb fused and I opened the back cover and replaced the same with the spare bulb that is part of the car kit.
Then I went to the ASC (Dakshin) to purchase the bulb and keep it as the spare that I had used.

The ASC mentioned, we can give the spare bulb, but we have to bill the fitting (labour) charge as well. I found this ridiculous as I had already fitted it myself with the spare available and the labour charge is fictitious/unjustified.

Ultimately, I purchased the spare OEM spec bulb from outside at about 300+ (Philips made in China) while the original one was 1200+ ( Osram made in Germany).
So I believe Honda does use high quality parts for sure although the cost is justifiably higher, which is fine.

If a customer has had to replace the bulb with a spare during the middle of a drive and comes to the ASC to buy and replenish the spare, the ASC has to sell the spare bulb without adding labour charge in the bill. They cannot charge labour when they have not replaced the bulb themselves. This is common sense, but they didn't agree to not include the labour charge.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by for_cars1

Ultimately, I purchased the spare OEM spec bulb from outside at about 300+ (Philips made in China) while the original one was 1200+ ( Osram made in Germany).
So I believe Honda does use high quality parts for sure although the cost is justifiably higher, which is fine.

If a customer has had to replace the bulb with a spare during the middle of a drive and comes to the ASC to buy and replenish the spare, the ASC has to sell the spare bulb without adding labour charge in the bill. They cannot charge labour when they have not replaced the bulb themselves. This is common sense, but they didn't agree to not include the labour charge.

I have experienced the same during my ownership of Civic when I needed to buy a Honda monogram to replace the logo on the boot. . However, once I got extra oil filter during one of the regular paid services and they added only the cost of spare.

They would also need a relevant Honda Car VIN for selling any spares as OTC (such as a Civic VIN for any part related to Civic- even the variant should be relevant to the spare part being bought), as OEM part sale is probably not allowed by Honda. This is why they add labour charges as they need to show that they have fitted the same on the car and not something that they have sold as 'loose' item.

[S2kyon]

Hi sir! I am posting to ask if you have also come across a supposed design flaw in the 4th gen Honda city (ours is the pre-facelift one) where the driver side seat belt while unbuckling, gets stuck on the boot lid opener latch on the right side of the driver's seat. It is a minor niggle, But I'd like to know if ours is the only one with this issue. Thanks in advance

[ask77]

Originally Posted by S2kyon

Hi sir! I am posting to ask if you have also come across a supposed design flaw in the 4th gen Honda city (ours is the pre-facelift one) where the driver side seat belt while unbuckling, gets stuck on the boot lid opener latch on the right side of the driver's seat. It is a minor niggle, But I'd like to know if ours is the only one with this issue. Thanks in advance

Yes this is a problem that I have faced after around 2 years of ownership. The ASC told me that the problem is due to the belt tensioner becoming loose and not fully retracing the belt. . I think it more of a design defect as the tensioner was not that loose.

[Rony2207]

We have booked a pre owned 4th gen Honda City VX variant with 42k kms on Odo, through Cars24. Drove the car and found ample power at tap. Drove a pre owned 2020 Seltos IVT with 57k kms on Odo but there was big difference in the power availability, ride dynamics (sure City will be planted) and overall steering feel between the two cars, City being the better of two.

Currently I am driving a Manual 2022 Nexon and needed an Automatic. Quick question from this group:

What should I look out for other than tires and battery?

I am planning to take the car to Honda ASC for detailed checkup and will be taking advantage of Cars24 7 days return policy in case something big turns up. Till now there is no accidental history based on my quick check. I have also take 2 years extended warranty from Cars24 without any additional cost.

[Shanks_Jazz]

Dear All,
I am in the process of replacing my existing car and would request your help in choosing an appropriate alternative.

Use Case and Requirements from the Car:
• Primarily to be driven in Mumbai with occasional runs to Pune, Mahabaleshwar and Goa etc. But no requirement of an off roading vehicle.
• It strictly needs to be an automatic, reliable and warrant as less visits to service center as possible.
• We are a family of 3 (I, Wife and 3 yo Kid) with parents visiting us occasionally. Vehicle will be chauffer driven on weekdays.
• Yearly running would be around City drives of 9K Kms/ year and Highway drives of 3K Kms/year.
• I really love driving however am not pedal to metal kind of driver inside City for sure. Although I drive a bit north of triple digits on highways, but I always ensure that the coast is clear for changing lanes and give proper indicators before changing lanes or overtaking, hence, won’t really need a rocket kind of car which squeezes past the smallest possible gaps.
• We have started with a ball park budget of 22-23 Lakhs on road.
• Non Negotiable requirements:
- 6 airbags, ABS, break Assist , ESP and Traction control etc
- 3 Point Seat belt and TPMS.
Not really fussed or excited about Infotainment Screen as frankly I would be mostly using only parking camera and maps on the infotainment.
My present Drive:
• I drive an Aug 2017 Hond Jazz V-CVT. It has been a really fuss free ownership with car behaving exactly the way it is meant to be, slow and steady

Initial Test Drives:
- VW Virtus 1.5 DSG
Great Car to drive , brilliant gear shifts and safety package.
However, reports of niggles like weak AC and others like Window motors, along with long terms concerns on the DSG gear box aren’t very comforting.

- Hyundai Creta/Kia Seltos 1.5 Petrol DCT
Was wowed by features however I don’t use the infotainment much and Wife didn’t like the space on offer , She actually found the glass area to be a bit less.
Panoramic Sunroof is a really good feature to have though.
Drive for me was smooth for my taste.
- XUV 700 D AT (Still in Consideration)
Great Car, good road presence and commanding seating position.
However, I did not feel really connected to the car while driving. We have still kept in in consideration as it more than fulfills almost all of our requirement except that our mileage do not really warrant a Diesel mill. We can think of stretching our budget a bit as we tend to keep our cars for long.
Note: Shockingly it did not have 3 point seat belt for the middle seat in 2nd row.


- Honda City ZX CVT (Late Wild card Entry)
- Very late entrant to the party as “who buys a City these days”
- Test drive vehicle was just 240Kms driven and was in immaculate condition.
- Loved the ride and wife also found the space and glass area as an upgrade to the Jazz.
- I found the engine nippy to drive in Mumbai traffic and gear shifts to be smooth.
- I anyway like the sedan as a body form to look at and the test vehicle in Blue with some cosmetic changes, over the previous version, was a hoot to look at.
- Has all the basic safety features including 3 point seatbelt, ABS, Traction control and 6 airbags etc. .
- Top end is coming to approx. 19.60 lakhs ex of discounts, I expect around 1.25 lakhs of discount.

Yet to Test Drive:
Seltos and Verna IVT. I might trest ride Innova Hycross VX Hybrid Auto too but it might be a bit of stretch although manageable to spend 33 lakhs on a car.
Dilemma:
I liked Honda City as a package with brilliant and well proven Engine+Gear Box combo backed by decent reliability.
What is holding me back:
1) What’s that am missing in city which leads it to sell less than 1000 units in a month
2) Honda’s future in India.

Request your views please.

[bijims]

Originally Posted by Shanks_Jazz

Dilemma:
I liked Honda City as a package with brilliant and well proven Engine+Gear Box combo backed by decent reliability.
What is holding me back:
1) What’s that am missing in city which leads it to sell less than 1000 units in a month
2) Honda’s future in India.

Request your views please.

The options in the sedan segment are hardly a handful, we have the Honda City, Maruti Ciaz (to be discontinued), VW Virtus, Skoda Slavia and the Hyundai Verna. The Ciaz has been outright neglected by Maruti but still managed to sell more than the City last month, the City albeit a good car has lacked the features or the drivetrain that the competitors possess, the Virtus and Slavia are both drivers' cars with excellent engine and gearbox combos, the Verna is a feature-laden car with good engines as well, the City is neither here nor there, so it falls behind.

Now coming to your car dilemma, do consider the test drive of the Verna DCT as well and not just the IVT, it is a good car and should meet all your requirements. Now if you are willing to stretch towards the Hycross, I would recommend you check out the Maruti Invicto as well, it is a Hycross with a few fewer features but with good discounts as well.

Hope it helps and feel free to DM me if you need any advice!

[Pratyush2407]

Originally Posted by Shanks_Jazz

Dilemma:
I liked Honda City as a package with brilliant and well proven Engine+Gear Box combo backed by decent reliability.
What is holding me back:
1) What’s that am missing in city which leads it to sell less than 1000 units in a month
2) Honda’s future in India.

Request your views please.

Hi, we were in a similar dilemma last year. Our 4th Gen city had turned 10 and we needed a change.

Originally we had planned to replace it with a XUV700 or Hycross since the need of a 7 seater arose but my grandma has weak knees and with the other two cars of the house being pseudo SUV’s, we needed a sedan.

I test drove the Virtus, Verna and City and have extensively driven all the 5 above.

Ended up picking the City ZX CVT for its seat comfort, comfortable ride (upsized tyres), and long term reliability. Its upholstery was also half a level above the competition. AC is fantastic. Gives anywhere between 10-14 kmpl with the upsized tyres on my 30 odd km daily commute from Parel to BKC. Have also seen 16-17 kmpl on my Mumbai-Pune runs at the same speeds you have mentioned. Drops to 8 kmpl on short runs and bumper to bumper traffic. It’s definitely more stable in the low to mid triple digit speeds than the 4th Gen and a full level quieter (minus the CVT). Dashboard is set low so visibility is amazing (even with seat in its lowest position) which genuinely aids in traffic and parking. ADAS also works well and is not too intrusive unless you are driving aggressively. My sister learned driving in the recent past and always picks the keys of this over the others.

I am also much more comfortable giving a Honda to my chauffeur than a Volkswagen.

It’s exactly what you would expect when you buy a Honda.

But in 2025, it’s just that. The competition feel half a gen ahead with their better sound systems, ventilated/electric seats and a more youthful interior. Not to say the city is bad, but its peers have moved on.

The City, in my opinion, is still the best option in the segment if you value the above traits. But equally, the competition is also really good and are offering features that should be standard. You should go with City only if you are okay to live without them to avoid buyers remorse.

Honda as a brand I think will stay and play the long game. They seem to be financially healthy with their exports and have a planned product pipeline.

OT- If you live in the western suburbs, I will recommend a pseudo SUV. They are a lot more comfortable than any Sedan taking those ruts, speed breakers and potholes on the road that never seem to get fixed. If that’s the case, I highly recommend you test drive the Seltos, Elevate, Taigun and Hyryder.

The XUV/Hycross are fantastic on the Highway and in the City but if you are a family of 3 and are spending 30+ lakhs, I would suggest you take a look at the Tiguan/Tucson.

Happy Shopping!

Parting Shot of my City.