[blackasta]

Originally Posted by blackasta

As I have stated elsewhere in a different thread - I believe the Kappa 1.2 old i10 is expected to be pulled from the market - only the 1.1 irde2 model should be around.
Damn my 2009 i10 feels ancient when compared to the Grand!

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Source: http://overdrive.in/news/hyundai-dis...-i10-in-india/

"Hyundai has stopped selling the i10 with the 1.2-litre, Kappa 2 petrol engine. It has also discontinued the top two Sportz and Asta trims on the i10 which sported the Kappa 2 engine...

The i10 will also not come with an automatic gearbox anymore with the Grand taking on that mantle as well."

Toldyaso!

IMO this makes for a tight secure lineup with minimal overlap between the i10 siblings priced from 3.85 to 6.62 lakhs.
Only the zippy nature of the old i10 with 1.2 kappa might be missed by some!

[amolbh]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Source: http://overdrive.in/news/hyundai-dis...-i10-in-india/

Hyundai has also discontinued the top two Sportz and Asta trims on the i10 which sported the Kappa 2 engine...

So does that mean the cheaper Eon now has an airbag while the costlier i10 doesn't? IMO, they need some changes in the equipment levels!

[MYB]

Had a second detailed look at the Grand i10 today. The plastics though look great at the first instance, a closer inspection reveals a few flaws/smart packaging. For example, the door plastics of my Liva and Grand are almost of the same quality and feel when you touch/scratch, the trick used by Hyundai here is a superior color theme which make it look plush. Toyota can take a leaf out of this and improve on the pathetic color mix/design of the interiors. The door levers paint too is a bit lousy I felt - this could be because I saw i20 and Grand i10 back to back and the latter is a no match to the former in terms of interiors.

But one big plus with Grand i10 is under the bonnet. The wiring has been given a hard plastic covering all through out (similar to my Liva) and this definitely helps! How? Ask the folks plagued by rat bites! My neighbor's older i10 keeps visiting the garage often due to this problem and this wrapping should make a big difference in helping the consumers deal with those rodents. Unfortunately, this is not the case under the bonnet of i20 which has a mix of cloth and tape wrapping!

[MYB]

Originally Posted by misquitas

I think that the i20 diesel does not have extended warranty, but the situation may have changed and I could be wrong.

i20 diesel does have extended warranty but the duration is shorter by a year compared to its petrol counterpart. While the petrol variant gets up to 5th year, the diesel makes do with 4th year as the maximum.

[100kmph]

Just came across this.
http://overdrive.in/news/hyundai-dis...-i10-in-india/

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

The i10 will also not come with an automatic gearbox anymore with the Grand taking on that mantle as well."

Their cheapest auto offering just became more expensive to own (and probably more thirsty thanks to extra weight)

A-star AT has that playground all for itself!

[blackasta]

Originally Posted by Mpower

Their cheapest auto offering just became more expensive to own (and probably more thirsty thanks to extra weight)

A-star AT has that playground all for itself!

Guess the time is ripe for a 1.0L Eon with AT.
Now that would be a real good deal if priced sensibly!

[Mpower]

That would require some work because that combo has not been done before.

I would prefer if they put the 1.1 AT from the ex-Santro AT in it. Tried and trusted and nice low end grunt.

[govigov]

Just bought the i10 Sportz Auto 3 weeks bag, should have waited and bargained for discounts. :(

[misquitas]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Source: http://overdrive.in/news/hyundai-dis...-i10-in-india/

"Hyundai has stopped selling the i10 with the 1.2-litre, Kappa 2 petrol engine. It has also discontinued the top two Sportz and Asta trims on the i10 which sported the Kappa 2 engine...

The i10 will also not come with an automatic gearbox anymore with the Grand taking on that mantle as well."

Smart move by Hyundai, to kill two birds with one stone: to clearly differentiate (engine, body and price) the old i10 and the Grand i10 as well as to pit the i10 against the Wagon R.

As mentioned by GTO in his road test, it would made little sense for the buyer to have opted for the older i10, with the new, bigger and better Grand i10 around.

With the old i10 and Santro now sharing that lone 1.1 ltr engine, I wonder if it would make any sense for Hyundai to retain the Santro?

Originally Posted by blackasta

Toldyaso!

Only the zippy nature of the old i10 with 1.2 kappa might be missed by some!

With the i10 Magna kappa2 now officially out of production, it will now have special value among those i10 owners (like myself) who understood and appreciated the special alliance between the body and the kappa2 engine that had made the old i10 a pocket rocket in its segment.

Originally Posted by govigov

Just bought the i10 Sportz Auto 3 weeks bag, should have waited and bargained for discounts. :(

Look at it the other way. There could have been more takers for the limited number of i10 Auto cars, once word became public that Hyundai was stopping the auto transmission for the old i10. As a result, you could either have missed out on your car or you could well have ended up paying a premium for your car. Enjoy your 'classic' auto i10 Spotrz Auto.

[RSR]

This was on expected lines. The Grand i10 petrol was always going to sit in the position occupied by the i10 Kappa2. With its new generation successor sporting the the same engine and being sold in the same price range, the i10 had to be positioned lower.

What the i10 iRDE2 now needs is a top variant with safety features [the earlier Magna(O) with ABS, dual airbags, fog lamps and adjustable rear headrests must be re-introduced now] and automatic variants to take on the A-Star AT. There is a sizeable segment of the market (automatic city hatchbacks) that is just waiting to be tapped. Hyundai simply cannot afford to ignore this segment below the upcoming Grand i10 Automatic. In fact, even Maruti Suzuki have not realised the potential offered by this segment. If they did, they would have come out with a Wagon R automatic or a Stingray automatic. No company can afford to miss such golden opportunities in a stagnant/contracting market.

Originally Posted by misquitas

With the old i10 and Santro now sharing that lone 1.1 ltr engine, I wonder if it would make any sense for Hyundai to retain the Santro?

With the Accent having retired, the old warhorse Santro is now Hyundai's only car that was introduced in the last millennium. It does look like the odd man out in an otherwise very modern lineup. And the Santro not being a part of Hyundai's new marketing push (even on their website) makes me believe that the tall boy will not be sold once 2014 dawns upon us. Unless of course, Hyundai decide they need to have a piece of the taxi pie. The Santro in CNG form (maybe even in LPG guise) does make for a very good small taxi and can bring in decent revenue for the company.

Originally Posted by misquitas

With the i10 Magna kappa2 now officially out of production, it will now have special value among those i10 owners (like myself) who understood and appreciated the special alliance between the body and the kappa2 engine that had made the old i10 a pocket rocket in its segment.

The i10 Kappa2 VTVT is indeed a special little car. Autocar India's 0-100 kmph test figures confirm that it is unbelievably quick for a naturally aspirated 1.2 lit. engined car. Even the Automatic i10 hits the ton faster than many cars with 1.2 lit. NA engines and manual gearboxes! It may not be a true hot hatch because it falls short in the ride and handling department, but it is a quick hatch - a pocket rocket no doubt.

The i10 with the Kappa2 engine would always be appreciated by those who know this. Given the car's other talents and strengths, I think it should maintain its value very, very well in the pre-owned market despite the car-engine combo going out of production now. Both the car and the engine will continue to be produced, so there should be absolutely no concerns about availability of spares or support.

[Thilak29]

How likely is that Diesel variant to get an auto box ? Are there technical hurdles to tideover?

[MYB]

Originally Posted by Thilak29

How likely is that Diesel variant to get an auto box ? Are there technical hurdles to tideover?

Not sure about the technical hurdles but as far as I know from the Hyundai folks I am dealing with, auto box will come only in petrol.

[samarth.bhatia]

Seems good to me. MSIL have a worthy competitor to the Swift.
And I have zero doubt on the quality of the interiors, as Hyundai have become stalwarts in providing excellent interiors even in the cheapest of their offerings (read Eon).
In person, the Grande i10 looks really good. I've seen the Maroon one, and the quirky lines (which I personally like) get hidden to some extent.

And with the U2 block, the Grande has a mechanically brilliant piece, plonked into a good, large, spacious hatch (with rear AC vents!) - a recipe for Grande success.

The i20 & Grande side by side do not differ much in terms of the length - again should only help the sales.

Having a Chevy Beat as a daily commuter, I'm quite a fan of the rear side windows sloping sharply upwards. But I've been pestered by family & friends sitting on the rear bench to switch off the AC & open the windows to reduce the claustrophobic effects. It may actually be a better decision to reduce the angle on the Indian variants.

And how I envy the large boot. Only chink in the armor may be the non-split folding backrest on the rear bench. But the attention to detail is fantastic (for this segment).

Time for a test drive, then.

Cheers,
Sam

[teemus]

Finally had a TD of Grand i10 Diesel after wanting to do it since many days but couldn't find time. First impression, Awesome!
It didn't let me down. Will write a detailed TD report in the evening once I reach home.