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20th September 2016, 15:30 | #10696 |
Distinguished - BHPian | EcoBoost - Technical Video EcoBoost - Technical Video Andrew Fraser is the Gasoline Powertrain Development manager Ford, and is the person who headed up the team which produced the EcoBoost engine. He's on record stating that it took up to 5 million man-hours — with up to 200 engineers over five years — to develop that engine. In the following video, he gives a 5-minute summary about the 1L EcoBoost engine in the EcoSport. I know we've had a lot of information shared about the EcoBoost engine, and Ford India also has a neat page about the EcoBoost engine. However, this video reveals some information that we'd previously not seen in the standard press releases. And who better to hear it from, than the man in charge of the engine design itself! Here's a summary of the video, in case you prefer the written version: Three Features to Allow Both Petrol-Like and Diesel-Like Characteristics
Refinement Improvements
Engine Scavenging
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22nd September 2016, 09:27 | #10697 | |
Distinguished - BHPian | Re: Ford EcoSport : Official Review LiveMint have an interesting article on the resale value of cars, where the Ford EcoSport commands good resale value, 3rd highest according to LiveMint's graph shown below. A 3-year old EcoSport is expected to command 87% of the current Delhi ex-showroom price. Quote:
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22nd September 2016, 09:53 | #10698 | |
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What I am surprised is that it scores over cars like the Honda City & Hyundai i20. Not complaining tho'. | |
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23rd September 2016, 01:55 | #10699 |
BHPian | Re: Ford EcoSport : Official Review Guys, after driving ~2k km of my new ecosport, have some strange questions: 1. Right from day 1, I hear a small thud crossing over the speed breakers, this happens if I am between 20km and 30km, if I am driving too slow or fast it doesn't happen. The same used to happen in my other car if tyre pressure was more, but I have checked ecosport pressure and it's always 30 (most of the time driven alone). 2. Mine is a TDCi and I idle 2mins during starting and 3-4 mins while stopping since ecosport doesn't have turbo timer, I have made this habit of doing it manually, now my question is, when I cold start and idle for 2mins and drive slowly still I hear diesel cluck cluck engine noise inside cabin, I don't rev more than 1200- 1500 rpm and drive very slowly and it takes at least few kms until that noise stops and engine becomes smooth, one day I decided to idle for 8-10mins and no noise, engine was smooth from start, so driving with 2-3 mins is fine or should I continue to idle for 10mins and then move the car? 3. My car is almost due for 1st service and i am confused as each service center is telling one thing, one said oil will be changed while other say oil won't be changed, can any of you guy tell me if engine oil and other things will be replaced, also what will they be doing in 1st service, if they are not changing, should I ask for then to change oil? 4. This is the first vehicle I own which has ABS, whenever I brake I feel it's not adequate, I don't know how to say this, but light foot on the brakes, the vehicle is still in motion and needs deep press at fast speed, I sometimes hear a squeak sound when brake mid pressed, is this normal on new car? |
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23rd September 2016, 09:28 | #10700 | |||||
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23rd September 2016, 09:33 | #10701 | |
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However, get it done at your cost since this is a new engine and the car has run sufficiently to flush out any metal shard remnants. It should cost you about Rs. 1100. | |
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23rd September 2016, 10:19 | #10702 | |||||
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In addition to what teemus and libranof1987 have said - which I fully agree with, I wanted to make a few points: Quote:
What I do is brake before reaching the speed breaker until the car has slowed down enough, and just before the front wheels hit the speed breaker, release the brakes. Releasing the brakes will uncompress the front suspension allowing it to move more once the tyres encounter the speed breaker. If the brakes are pressed when the tyres climb the speed breaker, then the suspension is compressed due to weight transfer (which, combined with the heavy front of the car) resulting in reduced travel. Quote:
The manual doesn't make any mention about idling the engine for any amount of time at start and stop. It only cautions us against turning off the engine if its running at speed (i.e. more than idle). I know many of us will feel weird about just driving away after starting, so you can incorporate a bit of idling by fitting your routine around it:
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EDIT: The change in noises you hear in the first 10 minutes might be related to the water cooling, where the thermostat valve to the radiator opens after the engine has reached operating temperature. Or it could just be the other parts of the engine reaching operating temperature. In any case, there's no need for you to wait that long before you start moving. Remember that the gearbox also needs to reach operating temperature. Imagine if you idle for 10 minutes and then drive normally thinking everything's warmed up - but your gearbox will still be at ambient temperature! Quote:
Squealing sound - point that out to the Ford guys during the service - the brake drums at the rear might need cleaning or lubrication. Is the squeak sound present at all times upon braking, or is it more prominent in the morning? If the brake discs are wet (e.g. after washing the car in the morning) then a light layer of rust might form resulting in either a hissing or squeaking sound until this layer is rubbed off. Last edited by arunphilip : 23rd September 2016 at 10:31. | |||||
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23rd September 2016, 12:42 | #10703 | ||||||
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Washing car has no effect or side effect of this sound. | ||||||
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23rd September 2016, 13:50 | #10704 | ||
Distinguished - BHPian | Re: Ford EcoSport : Official Review Quote:
But yes, I fully agree its not something that has outright pleased any owner - we end up driving around this behaviour, and accepting it as the compromise for good highway stability/handling. And we shut our ears to people praising the carpet-like ride of their Dusters Quote:
A counterpoint that gets raised for this is - the engine has an oil filter whose purpose is to trap these physical contaminants, and not leave them floating around in the oil. In some cars, the oil plug is also usually magnetized on the inside to catch any such shavings. I personally accepted the counterpoint, so didn't opt for the change. Since the engine oil is semi-synth and is cheap at about 1k, if you err on the side of caution by changing it, it won't cost you too much. OK - that does sound like the normal feel/sound of the brakes. Try getting the rear drum cleaned during your first service. It might just be irregular deposition of worn-out brake pad material that's giving this feel. Cleaning the brake drum will cost a few hundred in labour, and about a 100 for an anti-rust spray. | ||
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23rd September 2016, 16:45 | #10705 |
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| Re: Ford EcoSport : Official Review Anyone with an AT aware of such an issue? There's another guy in the comment with the same problem. Is it something they're doing wrong? Faulty car? |
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23rd September 2016, 17:04 | #10706 | |
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One thing that confused me was that one glimpse shown of the gear selector showed it in the forward "Park" position, and I'm not sure if the driver ever attempted to move it out of park. Oddly enough, the video doesn't match the description that states the car moves at 5 km/h, because in the video I don't recall seeing anything other than 0 km/h. Without any other detail, its hard to arrive at any conclusions. These are the 2 threads (one EcoSport, one Fiesta) that document the issues faced with the PowerShift transmission quite well: Last edited by arunphilip : 23rd September 2016 at 17:08. | |
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23rd September 2016, 18:56 | #10708 | |||
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Arun, since you are from Bangalore, can you recommend me good service center and any known person who i can trust? I heard cauvery ford is good, but i got my car from metro ford guys, hope that doesn't make a difference. | |||
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23rd September 2016, 19:09 | #10709 | |
Distinguished - BHPian | Re: Ford EcoSport : Official Review Quote:
I've not had any experience with either Cauvery Ford or Elite Ford, but if you've heard good stuff about Cauvery, then give them a shot. Name drop whomever gave that recommendation, just to add that personal touch. For your first service in particular, please spare the time to stay at the service center until the car is returned (and let the SA know this). As mentioned, its mostly an inspection service, and the brake cleaning/oil change should each take only about 30 minutes and can be done in parallel. The total first service should take only about 1-2 hours at the most. So, staying with the car will ensure that they don't just leave the car idle after finishing work (or worse, keep moving it around to free up space, or park it on some outside road). It never hurts to chat up the mechanics who're actually working on your car - a bit of friendliness will mean they treat your car a little better. Also, check to see if the car wash area is a bottleneck - many service centers have many service bays but a single wash bay. If so, you can opt out of the free car wash to save time. I always do this, because right after every service I take my car to 3M for a complete wash and wax. In general too, I'd advocate staying with the vehicle for future services, just to ensure you don't come to grief later. Its not the best use of our time, but its only an annual occurrence. | |
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23rd September 2016, 19:18 | #10710 | |
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