[vraned]

Originally Posted by hellraiser_yank

AFAIK, this happens when DSG needs a basic setting.

Is there a way we can do the reset or does it have to be done by the service centre? I remember reading somewhere that the reset can be done from the driver seat by following a few steps, not sure if someone has tried it and it worked.

Thanks!

[db01]

Originally Posted by vraned

Is there a way we can do the reset or does it have to be done by the service centre? I remember reading somewhere that the reset can be done from the driver seat by following a few steps, not sure if someone has tried it and it worked.

Thanks!

Yes, you can turn only the ignition on and then press and hold the accelerator pedal for around 30 seconds until you hear a click sound.

[PrisonMike]

Originally Posted by vraned

Is there a way we can do the reset or does it have to be done by the service centre? I remember reading somewhere that the reset can be done from the driver seat by following a few steps, not sure if someone has tried it and it worked.

Thanks!

The reset definitely does work. But it won't fix the issue. It only resets the shift points.

[vishy76]

Originally Posted by penpavan

hi guys, I usually turn off the car at long signals. Of late I am noticing that after I restart the car, quickly slot the lever into D, press the accelerator, the car does not move. The engine simply revs.
If I do the process a bit slower, as in, after the engine is cranked, and take a second to slot into D, then there is no problem.

My friend and I, both had bought our GT TSIs almost together 6 years ago and guess what, he was facing the same problem. His problem went away after he replaced the battery. I replaced my battery as well. But still occasionally I face this problem.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

The cause of the issue and whether it is normal or not depends on how long you take to slot into D after starting the car.

The mechatronics needs to build a very high pressure on starting the engine to activate solenoids that change gears. If that pressure is not built, the gears won't engage.

I would say a 5-7 second delay in selecting gears should give the mechatronic enough time to build pressure. If it still doesn't select a gear, the pressure accumulator inside must have aged slightly. Change the mechatronics fluid and check if the issue persists.

[Dead Head]

Hello BHPians

As I continue my love affair with my 2017 GT TSI , a lovely car in every way which I use sparingly (32,000 km on Odo) , maintained in pristine fashion and I dont plan to part with it in the foreseeable future.

One performance feature which irks me repeatedly is the failure of sensors. These cause the warning lights on the dash to light up (see pic).

The ABS & the ESR warning light came on recently.

This means a visit to VW and waste of half a day and expense of 5 or 7 K . Smalll amount no doubt but the frequency with which this happens is irritating.

It used to also happen with our VW Jetta which we recently retired.

To this learned forum , I have these questions

1) Does this need to be attended asap or can I drive on like this for the next 6 months till my next service is due? I cannot drive fast as the car is purely for Mumbai city usage where any speed above 20kmph is an exhilarating experience.

2) Is there a reason for the frequent sensor failure. SA at VW advised that the chap who washes my car is somehow splashing water (dirty water specifically) onto the wheels which is reaching the sensors and causing failure.

- I didnt find his explanation very credible as the car should be designed to operate in slush and muddy conditions anyway.

3) do other owners face this sort of frequent sensor failure?

4) Do other makes have this sort of problem ?

5) Is there a cheaper DIY or local garage solution to this ?


I have been driving with these lights on the dash for the last one month. Perhaps my imagination but the car seems to pull a shade bit less , coasting at 50kmph the car was on D6 rather than D7.

The Engineer in me tells me to get it fixed but the Finance guy says that it is a needless expense as I am not taking the car out anywhere beyond 30km radius of Powai.

Look forward to hearing from the learned members on this

[SLK]

Originally Posted by Dead Head

2) Is there a reason for the frequent sensor failure. SA at VW advised that the chap who washes my car is somehow splashing water (dirty water specifically) onto the wheels which is reaching the sensors and causing failure.

Never faced a failure. 75+k on Polo and 25k on Octavia, also never ever washed the wheels. Don't know the actual cause but 2 things come to mind, humid Mumbai environment and washing wheels of parked cars which then don't completely dry for hours.

[Dippy]

Originally Posted by Dead Head

Hello BHPians

As I continue my love affair with my 2017 GT TSI , a lovely car in every way which I use sparingly (32,000 km on Odo) , maintained in pristine fashion and I dont plan to part with it in the foreseeable future.

This is a common issue on VWs. Its quite a given that when one ABS sensor fails, the rest follow suit one by one. And then VW replaces them one at a time as well if you claim warranty.

My first sensor failed a couple of years ago and after I replaced it, another one failed a month later. Replaced that too. Both in warranty

After that, coincidence seeing your post but my third one has failed last week. Im driving around with the same display on my instrument cluster as you are . Still my Polo running has become less after the Thar came home.

My annual service is due in the next 2 weeks so I might either get it replaced during service or get it done at my own workshop since my car is now out of warranty.

But there is no issue driving around for now, you can continue to do so.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by Dead Head

SA at VW advised that the chap who washes my car is somehow splashing water (dirty water specifically) onto the wheels which is reaching the sensors and causing failure.

How is it that guys talk such rubbish? Ask him if you should, therefore, avoid driving through puddles! Further more, if I remember correctly, it is a solid plastic unit (disgustingly tiny for the price too)

I've had two ABS sensors replaced on my 9-yr-old TDI. Failure seems to be random, at least past a certain age

- I didnt find his explanation very credible as the car should be designed to operate in slush and muddy conditions anyway.

Exactly!

3) do other owners face this sort of frequent sensor failure?

Yes.

5) Is there a cheaper DIY or local garage solution to this ?

I don't think so. Independent-garage labour rates may or may may not be less than VW-A_S_S but the VW part is the VW part. Over 4k when I last looked.

The Engineer in me tells me to get it fixed but the Finance guy says that it is a needless expense as I am not taking the car out anywhere beyond 30km radius of Powai.

I'd file that with "don't need seat belts at city speeds" and get it replaced.

Many accidents are more likely in the city. Brakes and their associated safety devices should be top of the list. And their presence is one reason we are buying we cars!

Safety trumps the finance guy

[hellraiser_yank]

Originally Posted by Dead Head

....
I have been driving with these lights on the dash for the last one month. Perhaps my imagination but the car seems to pull a shade bit less , coasting at 50kmph the car was on D6 rather than D7. ....

AFAIK stock 1.2 DSG shifts into 7th at ~57kmph. Manual override at about 54 if I recall correctly.

I'd recommend replacing the part as it makes the ABS and ESP behave erratically. If I'm not mistaken the faulty part is the ABS/speed sensor.

You may find the part cheaper at boodmo or an FNG might be able to arrange from salvage as its very common read Fabia-kodiaq, polo-tiguan, A3-Q2. OE spec aftermarket is available for as low as Rs900ish.

Cheers.

[Dead Head]

Originally Posted by Dippy

This is a common issue on VWs. Its quite a given that when one ABS sensor fails, the rest follow suit one by one. And then VW replaces them one at a time as well if you claim warranty.

My first sensor failed a couple of years ago and after I replaced it, another one failed a month later. Replaced that too. Both in warranty

After that, coincidence seeing your post but my third one has failed last week. Im driving around with the same display on my instrument cluster as you are . Still my Polo running has become less after the Thar came home.

My annual service is due in the next 2 weeks so I might either get it replaced during service or get it done at my own workshop since my car is now out of warranty.

But there is no issue driving around for now, you can continue to do so.

Sadly for me , everytime a different one fails so I am not able to claim warranty

[graaja]

Originally Posted by Dead Head

The Engineer in me tells me to get it fixed but the Finance guy says that it is a needless expense as I am not taking the car out anywhere beyond 30km radius of Powai.

Please listen to the engineer in you. ABS is not a requirement just for highways but can be very critical in city traffic too. Please get it changed ASAP.

[corvus corax]

The Engineer in me tells me to get it fixed but the Finance guy says that it is a needless expense as I am not taking the car out anywhere beyond 30km radius of Powai.

Your finance guy should play the long game.

I once ran with the ABS/ESP warning light ON for a prolonged period of time. One day I got the dreaded 'flashing spanner' icon in place of the gear position indicator. Worried that the gear box had gone kaput I took the car to the service center. The ride there was uneventful. But while coming back from the test drive with the SA at the wheel the car suddenly stopped shifting gears. Luckily the service center was near and we reached there with out breaking down in the middle of the road.

The culprit was faulty ABS sensors. 3 out of 4 had failed. I was also told that if faulty sensors aren't replaced time-bound, it would result in ABS/ESP control module failure.

I paid ~5k (if I remember correctly) for 4 sensors. They were of the latest batch (more durable), I was told and carried 2 years warranty.

[Dead Head]

Originally Posted by Dippy

This is a common issue on VWs. Its quite a given that when one ABS sensor fails, the rest follow suit one by one. And then VW replaces them one at a time as well if you claim warranty.

My first sensor failed a couple of years ago and after I replaced it, another one failed a month later. Replaced that too. Both in warranty

After that, coincidence seeing your post but my third one has failed last week. Im driving around with the same display on my instrument cluster as you are . Still my Polo running has become less after the Thar came home.

My annual service is due in the next 2 weeks so I might either get it replaced during service or get it done at my own workshop since my car is now out of warranty.

But there is no issue driving around for now, you can continue to do so.

Originally Posted by hellraiser_yank

AFAIK stock 1.2 DSG shifts into 7th at ~57kmph. Manual override at about 54 if I recall correctly.

I'd recommend replacing the part as it makes the ABS and ESP behave erratically. If I'm not mistaken the faulty part is the ABS/speed sensor.

You may find the part cheaper at boodmo or an FNG might be able to arrange from salvage as its very common read Fabia-kodiaq, polo-tiguan, A3-Q2. OE spec aftermarket is available for as low as Rs900ish.

Cheers.

The warning lights are for ABS & ESP . I think it is one sensor which does both the jobs .I checked out boodmo and it lists a variety of sensors from 1000 to 4000 , dont think boodmo is a viable option, thanks anyway

[Dead Head]

Originally Posted by corvus corax

Your finance guy should play the long game.

I once ran with the ABS/ESP warning light ON for a prolonged period of time. One day I got the dreaded 'flashing spanner' icon in place of the gear position indicator. Worried that the gear box had gone kaput I took the car to the service center. The ride there was uneventful. But while coming back from the test drive with the SA at the wheel the car suddenly stopped shifting gears. Luckily the service center was near and we reached there with out breaking down in the middle of the road.

The culprit was faulty ABS sensors. 3 out of 4 had failed. I was also told that if faulty sensors aren't replaced time-bound, it would result in ABS/ESP control module failure.

I paid ~5k (if I remember correctly) for 4 sensors. They were of the latest batch (more durable), I was told and carried 2 years warranty.

Oh whow, you have scared the pants off the Finance guy.

Come to think of it , I have also had the problem of gear not shifting that you describe ,but VW didnt attribute that problem due to failed ABS sensors. At that time two had failed, which I replaced and then subsequently one more failed. Each time a different one. Till now I have replaced 4 or more sensors on the Polo.
On my Manual Jetta TSI a similar number failed, mostly ABS sensors. Once it was the temperature sensor. Pretty irritating. Some car owners seem to have the problem more than others. My luck with sensors has been dismal.

Also these pesky things seem to fail in a serial mode , one now, another one next week ...and so on

[vraned]

ANNUAL SERVICE RECOMMENDATIONS

My 2016 Polo GT TSI is scheduled for its 7th annual service tomorrow. Any specific recommendations from experts here on what to get checked other than the regular (engine oil/filter change etc.,)?

1. DSG reset? (does it make sense)
2. clutch plates 1 & 2 (exact question/check to be done?)
3. Gearbox and mechanotronics oil check
4....
5....

Appreciate all the inputs as always.