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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom (Post 5672103)
One thing I like about the Polo is it's size, or rather lack of it. I have no wish to drive a bigger car.

I do recognise that it is an ideal car for one or two, occasionally more. I would agree that it is not the ideal car for a growing family. That could have been it's bigger brother, the Golf, but India never had that choice.

Thanks, hellraiser, Thad E Ginathom. Have either of you, or anyone here upgraded from a 1.2 polo GT to Taigun 1.5 GT? Likes/dislikes/comparisons? That might solve the space issue I am currently facing with polo, while staying with the VW family.

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Originally Posted by vraned (Post 5672249)
Thanks, hellraiser, Thad E Ginathom. Have either of you, or anyone here upgraded from a 1.2 polo GT to Taigun 1.5 GT? Likes/dislikes/comparisons? That might solve the space issue I am currently facing with polo, while staying with the VW family.

I'll list down my likes and dislikes about the taigun

Likes-

Great engine, the 1.5 Evo engine is super smooth ( i can't live with the 1.0 originally being spoilt by Honda 1.5s the 1.0 seemed very poor in NVH), cylinder deactivation at consistent speeds helps fuel economy reach the 20+kmpl mark.

DSG, DSG and DSG

Very well tuned suspension out of the box, the average user will not complain.

Instrument cluster is way superior with regards to information available

Seat bolstering was perfect for my liking, the seat hugs you while cornering so you're not tumbled about or holding on for dear life like in the Polo

Good headlights, way superior than the Polo, even the reflector headlight variants offer very crisp cutouts and beams with osram LEDs

Keyless entry, push button start for convenience.

A lot of options available to unlock with coding, especially safety features like break light illumination when boot is open. Could be life saving in some situations

Spare parts/body panels are way cheaper than equivalent ones for Polo and are usually readily available.

Dislikes-

DSG, DSG and DSG, the DQ 200 rev3 in the taigun is on torque upper limit from factory (250nm) so no scope of a remap without clutch upgrade. With regards to reliability.

No one touch up down for the windows besides the driver door, so even if activated by coding the key lock/unlock hold only controls the driver window.

Plastics seem cheaper. Overall the car interior feels cheaper when compared to the Polo.

Only 3 rear park sensors, to upgrade to 8k ops one has to replace the ones in the back also and of course fillout and repaint the rear bumper holes and make new ones for 4 sensors.

Even though the car is bigger the rear bench is suitable for 2 adults and maybe a toddler. Leg room is superior in the back.


The Taigun/Virtus/Kushaq/Slavia are the only real alternatives to the Polo. Everything else non German misses on some or the aspect for me, the Japanese and Koreans miss out on safety. The Indian marks miss out on consistency of performance.

I seriously considered the Taigun 1.5 DSG before I bought the Polo used but didn't need a bigger car.

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Originally Posted by vraned (Post 5672249)
Thanks, hellraiser, Thad E Ginathom. Have either of you, or anyone here upgraded from a 1.2 polo GT to Taigun 1.5 GT?

For a moment, I thought you were calling me a hellraiser! rl:

No. After a short time with a Swift, which literally fell apart after a very few years, I upgraded to a Polo, and from that to... another Polo :D

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Originally Posted by vraned (Post 5672249)
Have either of you, or anyone here upgraded from a 1.2 polo GT to Taigun 1.5 GT?

No, but had upgraded to 1.8tsi Octavia (but kept the Polo too). In short, 1.8tsi with the same DSG does much better than the Polo, in terms of everything including gear changes. 1.2 tsi is rather harsh in comparison. This is only to say there is a world of smoother free revving engines compared to 1.2 tsi so 1.5 tsi might be actually much better to drive.

For a phase post covid, I almost abandoned the Polo, but as traffic surpassed pre covid levels in 2023, Polo has become my primary ride. Polo is clearly more fun to drive in traffic, where 1.8tsi is an overkill and needs to be driven as if its a chauffeur driven :). 1.2 tsi has just enough power to feel agile in traffic, perfect size for 1-2 people, and those understated looks without all flashy LEDs makes it feel like an underdog and gives me that smile.

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Originally Posted by hellraiser_yank (Post 5672336)

The Taigun/Virtus/Kushaq/Slavia are the only real alternatives to the Polo.

Thanks all! I think it finally comes down to the above statement.

I have no experience with Skoda brand, so will stick to VW for now. I will update once I make up my mind to take a test drive of Taigun/Virtus.

Need some suggestion from fellow T-BHPians -

My 2019 Polo GT has a factory fitted RCD 340G Head Unit. It used to turn on (with clock wallpaper as default or the previously used media) when the key was slotted in the accessories position and then used to remain on when the engine was started.

For the past few days, though, the HU shuts off completely when the engine is started (thereby interrupting the Bluetooth connection as well as stopping any active media) and then turns on, rather, boots up with a “Welcome to Volkswagen” message.

Has anyone else seen this issue? Could this be due to low battery?

hi guys, I usually turn off the car at long signals. Of late I am noticing that after I restart the car, quickly slot the lever into D, press the accelerator, the car does not move. The engine simply revs.
If I do the process a bit slower, as in, after the engine is cranked, and take a second to slot into D, then there is no problem.

My friend and I, both had bought our GT TSIs almost together 6 years ago and guess what, he was facing the same problem. His problem went away after he replaced the battery. I replaced my battery as well. But still occasionally I face this problem.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

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Originally Posted by vishaljawahar (Post 5674170)
For the past few days, though, the HU shuts off completely when the engine is started (thereby interrupting the Bluetooth connection as well as stopping any active media) and then turns on, rather, boots up with a “Welcome to Volkswagen” message.

Has anyone else seen this issue? Could this be due to low battery?

This could be a battery issue. If the battery voltage drops too low during engine crank, this can reset the HU. Check the battery, especially how low the voltage drops when cranking, and replace the battery if needed.

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Originally Posted by penpavan (Post 5674314)
hi guys, I usually turn off the car at long signals. Of late I am noticing that after I restart the car, quickly slot the lever into D, press the accelerator, the car does not move. The engine simply revs.
If I do the process a bit slower, as in, after the engine is cranked, and take a second to slot into D, then there is no problem.

My friend and I, both had bought our GT TSIs almost together 6 years ago and guess what, he was facing the same problem. His problem went away after he replaced the battery. I replaced my battery as well. But still occasionally I face this problem.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

This is because you're shifting to D immediately after starting the car. The car needs about 5 seconds to idle before moving to D. This happened to me once at a petrol station too, it freaked me out at first. But then I realized that I had immediately shifted to D because I was being told to hurry up and move by the attendants.

This has never happened to me since I've started waiting a few seconds before shifting to D.

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Originally Posted by PrisonMike (Post 5675147)
This is because you're shifting to D immediately after starting the car. The car needs about 5 seconds to idle before moving to D. This happened to me once at a petrol station too, it freaked me out at first. But then I realized that I had immediately shifted to D because I was being told to hurry up and move by the attendants.

This has never happened to me since I've started waiting a few seconds before shifting to D.

Yes, happens to my car too 2015 GT TSI. The first time it happened, I was freaked out and also saw the D symbol flashing without a number.

I think this didn't happen when the car was still new, it only started happening later. The first time it happened, my battery was pretty new too.

Doesn't happen in the Octavia with same gearbox, it shifts and starts to move much sooner compared to the Polo.

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Originally Posted by penpavan (Post 5674314)
hi guys, I usually turn off the car at long signals. Of late I am noticing that after I restart the car, quickly slot the lever into D, press the accelerator, the car does not move. The engine simply revs.
If I do the process a bit slower, as in, after the engine is cranked, and take a second to slot into D, then there is no problem.

My friend and I, both had bought our GT TSIs almost together 6 years ago and guess what, he was facing the same problem. His problem went away after he replaced the battery. I replaced my battery as well. But still occasionally I face this problem.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

Ditto! I've been experiencing this for the last year or so. Strangely never happened for the first 5 yrs of owning the car. If the car doesn't move (just revvs) after slotting to D, I engage the brake again and then it moves.

Will try the suggestion by PrisonMike and wait for a few seconds before slotting it in. Even here, I can understand that happening during cold starts, but at signals etc., it shouldn't be happening. I'm thinking of reporting this when I send the car for it's annual service later this month.

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Originally Posted by penpavan (Post 5674314)
hi guys, I usually turn off the car at long signals. Of late I am noticing that after I restart the car, quickly slot the lever into D, press the accelerator, the car does not move. The engine simply revs.
If I do the process a bit slower, as in, after the engine is cranked, and take a second to slot into D, then there is no problem.

My friend and I, both had bought our GT TSIs almost together 6 years ago and guess what, he was facing the same problem. His problem went away after he replaced the battery. I replaced my battery as well. But still occasionally I face this problem.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

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Originally Posted by PrisonMike (Post 5675147)
This is because you're shifting to D immediately after starting the car. The car needs about 5 seconds to idle before moving to D. This happened to me once at a petrol station too, it freaked me out at first. But then I realized that I had immediately shifted to D because I was being told to hurry up and move by the attendants.

This has never happened to me since I've started waiting a few seconds before shifting to D.

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Originally Posted by SLK (Post 5675269)
Yes, happens to my car too 2015 GT TSI. The first time it happened, I was freaked out and also saw the D symbol flashing without a number.

I think this didn't happen when the car was still new, it only started happening later. The first time it happened, my battery was pretty new too.

Doesn't happen in the Octavia with same gearbox, it shifts and starts to move much sooner compared to the Polo.

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Originally Posted by vraned (Post 5675475)
Ditto! I've been experiencing this for the last year or so. Strangely never happened for the first 5 yrs of owning the car. If the car doesn't move (just revvs) after slotting to D, I engage the brake again and then it moves.

Will try the suggestion by PrisonMike and wait for a few seconds before slotting it in. Even here, I can understand that happening during cold starts, but at signals etc., it shouldn't be happening. I'm thinking of reporting this when I send the car for it's annual service later this month.

AFAIK, this happens when DSG needs a basic setting.

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Originally Posted by hellraiser_yank (Post 5675492)
AFAIK, this happens when DSG needs a basic setting.

My DSG was reset by the service center once, but didn't help. I also feel (just my feeler) that the time is increasing as car ages. It must be like 2-3 seconds in my case. What used to happen rarely, now happens at most cold starts.

Another issue is the brake booster vacuum loss, I don't know if these can be related, but this has something to do with hydraulics taking time to come upto pressure when engine starts.

Definitely got to do something with the car's age. Mine was resolved for sometime after the battery was changed. But of late it is coming back sometimes.
I also noticed that break lights of my car fade after 1 second when applied while standing still (with engine off). This is pointing to the battery again. I think its good to get the battery checked. My friend's car showed this problem at the same time as mine, but his is gone after he replaced the battery.
I am getting the battery checked this weekend.

I have a 2020 GT TSI 1.2 and I do NOT see this delay after shifting to D. The creeping is almost instantaneous, and so is the accelerator response. This is the case even if I am idling on N for a minute, and then shift to D.

The only case where it takes about 2-3 seconds is, if I start the car on N, and immediately shift to D. But that's expected I guess.

I also changed my battery a couple of months ago. But I did not face this problem even with a weak battery.

I guess there's something else going on, with those who're facing this issue.


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