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12th January 2013, 14:50 | #331 | |
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It was the 20 A fuse for the blower which had blown,replaced it with the spare in the fuse box. Since I was visiting Concorde to check my Indica in for service , tried the spares section for a set of fuses. TASS charges Rs.15/- per piece for the 5,10,15,20,25 &30 A fuses, but gave me a different colour coded fuse for the 20A - I got a red instead of a fluorescent green. So rejected it and instead got a set of spare fuses from a nearby reliable spares shop for Rs.10/- each.I am now missing only a 15A spare fuse other than the ones provided with the car. | |
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13th January 2013, 13:28 | #332 |
Senior - BHPian | Re: Tata Nano : Test Drive & Review I had the same symptoms during my Ashtavinayak trip, but it ended up to be a blown blower. However it was replaced under warranty so no worries. |
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15th January 2013, 12:55 | #333 |
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| Re: Tata Nano : Test Drive & Review Hi, I have been contemplating buying a Nano for the city run about, however my visit to the dealership Prerana Motors in Rajajinagar , Bangalore ( that is closest to where I stay) did not inspire too much of confidence. My wife I walked into the showroom on the morning, and there was nobody manning the showroom and for 10 full minutes, we were left to ourselves checking out the display vehicles. Then there was this guy who was helpful enough to and inquire what we were looking for and when we told him that we wanted to test drive a Nano, he apologized that they were not working and they had opened the showroom only for some customer deliveries, he however took down my number and told me that I would receive a call from the sales person first thing today. I'm yet to hear from him. If this is the attitude before they sell , I'm worried about what happens after the purchase Can some BHpians provide me help on some queries I have on the Nano, I would rather go by true user experiences than by what I see on anonymous reviews ( most of them negative) a. What is your experience on aspects such as mileage, ease of parking, and reliability of the car? I do see a number of niggles and inconsistencies being reported on this forum b. What is the likely/ claimed life of the engine ( with Tata giving a 60K Km warranty I guess it should be good) and is it worth paying for the service package provided by the dealer? ( The person I met mentioned to me that this comes at Rs 3100 per year) c. While this highest variant is priced about a lakh below the M800 new, the over all reliability as well as the after service experience is important- what should I be prepared for in this regard with a Nano? ( A blown fuse, a misaligned steering etc every now and then can be a real put off, are you expected to iron out these niggles after you buy the car and spend the first 3-6 months doing so?) d. Did hear in some reviews and feedback, on the steering effort required. Is this really an issue? My dad who is 70+ may use it once in a while, so want to be sure he does not find it an issue. e. There are also some comments on the effectiveness of brakes, considering that the car is intended for city use and the speeds may never cross 60-70 kmph, is this a factor to worry about? f. Who would be the Tata dealer, in Bangalore you would suggest I go to if at all I decide to go ahead with a Nano I'm aware that these are a lot of questions on different aspects and some of these have found mention in the thread, but I would look forward to "proof of the Pudding" feedback from owners who have owned and driven this car for sometime now. Having used Maruti, Hyundai and Toyota vehicles this long , I'm really apprehensive about being saddled with something unreliable. While I'm very impressed by this engineering wonder, I do not want to regret my decision later - Do help with your insights and inputs |
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15th January 2013, 14:16 | #334 | |
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| Re: Tata Nano : Test Drive & Review Hi, Please note that my ownership experience on the Nano is only about a month. So I put in my answers to each of your questions a. I have got now 20 kmpl on the 2 tankfuls I have done, steering needs significant effort while stationary. Outward visibility all around is quite good. I cannot comment on the reliability,but in general Tata cars do suffer from lack of tight QC measures. This is my experience with the Indica (currently 8+ years). b. No idea about the longevity of the engine, but TaMo does honour warranty. As far as I know the AMC is for 3 years and is not Rs.3100 per year considering that the service intervals are every 10K km or once every 12 months. c. No comments, I got into this knowing the Tata niggles, so it is an individual's perspective. As I said Tata cars do have initial issues that pop up during the ownership. d. Steering effort at parking speeds is significant, so if your dad is 70+, would request you to involve him as well during the TD especially in a parking simulation and then take a call. On the road no issue with the steering effort, it is quite light (vis a vis the power steering of the Indica) e. For sure you cannot expect to stand on the brakes like on a car with disc brakes up front. You need to remember to apply the brakes by press -> release -> press. I guess this is the same as well in case of a car with disc brakes, only that you need to be conscious the initial days till it becomes a habit. I see that with this habit, I haven't faced any issue with the brakes, and in fact stop much before than on my Indica(may due to the weight difference) . Since I am still in the process of running in the car, I have not crossed 60 km/hr and from those speeds the braking is normal as in any other car. f. No idea. Quote:
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16th January 2013, 10:47 | #335 | |
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Even if you don't need all the features, it makes sense to buy the AC version of the Nano as it's alternator should have sufficient capacity to charge the battery fast enough when the A/C, power windows, music system and headlights - are being used in any combination or together. I'm not a technical person, but think (space permitting) even a battery of a slightly larger capacity can be used in the AC version, as the battery is of the same capacity (25 AH) in both version. On an another note, very few manufacturers provide such techincal details in their manual - Tata Motors always give details such as alternator capacity and diameter of disc & drum brakes in their owner's service manuals. | |
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16th January 2013, 17:52 | #336 | ||||||||
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And confirmed that only 1 Layer of insulation present. For the 12V charging point in CX - please confirm with your dealer and try for a decent guy to do it - or it can screw up your warranty. Quote:
CX has no door sensors for the light? Thats strange - something the SA did not mention to me while enlisting the differences. I think all 3 of your niggles are minor and typically Tata - should be well sorted at Concorde. I must say - the fog lamps and the head lamps are seriously worth every bit. Probably best in class - but what exactly falls in the same class of 'Nano'? My Indica experience was painful too. But my Manza experience IS wonderful! - Thus prompted me to trust them whole heartedly again for the Nano. Quote:
And my dealer has refused to install the 12V charger for me. They say they don't have that provision in the Nano! (I have a Nano 2012 LX SE) Quote:
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I had a reasonably similar experience with my Indica days as almost everyone on this forum. But post my Manza (1 year+ 14k kms - check ownership thread) and now my Nano - Tata Motors has improved drastically. Especially SOME of their service centres. Their old centres - for e.g. Wasan in Mumbai are still horrible - but positive reports are TRICKLING in from other centers across India. So there is hope. a. Mileage - awesome. Easily 18 to 22 Realistic figures - with full time AC - city & highway respectively. Ease of parking - to turn when ABSOLUTELY stationary - VERY difficult. But the Size and turning radius - AWESOME. Total fun. Even if car is barely moving - the steering eases up big time. Reliability? Not sure just 45 days so far and 1 service done. But goes over bumps and almost and damn thing easily. Back seat comfortable. Reasonably confidence inspiring. Know the limits of this 'urban transport' / city car / bike with 4 wheels and use wisely. b. It is 3100 Rs. - AMC - ONE time only. And definitely worth it as it is a Gold package and covers everything you could want. Basically - the cheap car will be even cheaper to own and maintain and should be a major peace of mind over 3 to 4 years. c. M800 not available in Metros like Mumbai so can't comment. This is a BS4 engine. M800 BS3. Top variant Nano LX still atleast 1.2L cheaper than top variant of Alto 800. Niggles - not over 3 to 6 months. 1 month. 1st free service at 1 month or 1000 kms whichever earlier. A good service centre like Concorde or TCRS - takes very good care of ALL your issues and even the smallest bits are ironed out completely. d. Test drive is best way to determine this. Like mentioned earlier - BIG problem when totally stationary. Once the car is moving - easy as anything. Fun! Because of peppy engine, small size. Even making a U turn or turning a circle is not a problem AT ALL. You won't even feel the difference. TEST DRIVE. (If the showroom not responding - just send an email complain to Tata Motors or call up helpline and someone will be at your doorstep ASAP) e. Yes. I too feel - it could use better brakes. But no - NOT an issue really. Just that we are used to better brakes in more expensive cars. You get used to it within the 1st 3 days. And NOT an issue. I have had some sudden brakes on the highway at 80 kmph+ with screeching halt. Again - TEST DRIVE. And insist for a GOOD test drive car - LX - well maintained. Or go to some other dealer for the best feel. If you are in Mumbai - you are more than welcome to try mine. f. Sorry - not much idea of Banglore - surely others on the forum will help you there. Quote:
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And thank you for these insights. The dealers or SAs still insist that the battery is inadequate for 'over loading' with AutoCop or 12V charger!? Last edited by Dr.Suraj : 16th January 2013 at 17:53. Reason: Minimizing size of multi-quotes to please the mods. | ||||||||
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16th January 2013, 18:26 | #337 | |
Senior - BHPian | Re: Tata Nano : Test Drive & Review Quote:
Not only we got to TD the very next day and was eventually followed up by the general manager regarding our experience and purchase considerations. So a good dealership will do the trick. From the TD experience, felt the brakes to be more than adequate for city conditions, hence no big worries on that front. This is from a long term ownership of M800 which has very mediocre brakes to talk of and still one does not find any issues in general with millions of owners on road. | |
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16th January 2013, 18:40 | #338 | |
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Exactly what I was talking about. I too had to shoot off a mail - but then - response was PHENOMENAL !!! It felt as if I was buying some premium exclusive car! All I was doing (at that point of time) was still INQUIRING about a 2.4 lakh rupee Nano! That is the BASIC problem with Tata Motors. Their franchisee dealers AND service centers are horrible and screw up the reputation of the brand BIG time. But their own dealers (Like Concorde) and their own service centers are REALLY good. Touchwood they are improving slowly and steadily. Just hope it isn't too slow! Now - THAT is a fair comparison. From a M800 to a Nano. Most of us - we tend to compare from a MUCH higher car with disc brakes to the poor little Nano with only drum brakes. And yes - like I said - initially it feels - OMG! - but you get totally used to it within the 1st 4 to 5 hours of driving and then it is like a natural response and in proper city conditions DOES NOT seem inadequate. | |
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16th January 2013, 22:49 | #339 | |
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| Re: Tata Nano : Test Drive & Review Quote:
Also see the page 63, where it gives the fuses. There is a separate fuse provided for Charge point in an LX (F9 10A). These dealers really don't know what they are talking about. The dealer in my case also strictly warned me that you should not start the car while something in the charge point. But really I feel they use substandard accessories and do unauthorized wirings. Btw, my charge point has stopped working for the second time now. I tried to charge my friends mobile. Anyway it is time for the first service, plan to fix it again now. | |
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19th January 2013, 00:20 | #340 | |
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Checked it right away after you mentioned. Immediately in the pdf I always carry. Now to find a reliable guy who can do this for me! Anyone recommended in Mumbai? Thanks for this info. BTW - what do you intend to do about your charging point now? | |
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22nd January 2013, 22:34 | #341 | |
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a. Mileage is about 16 kpl (old model) with AC full time in Delhi summer peak traffic. About 18 kpl now in winters. Parking speeds the steering requires a little effort, but lesser than the Maruti 800. Parking is a breeze anywhere, visibility all round is great, bettr than the likes of Duster, XUV, SX4, Verna, etc. Niggles, you may have, at his cost, but they would be minor / cosmetic. TATA warranty support is great, my AC button used to get stuck once in 10 presses - they changed the whole unit promptly, no questions asked. b. The engine is a gem, low noise (inside), smooth and peppy. No issues till now, no starting problem, nothing at all ! c. You may not encounter any of such problems at all ! You may blow a fuse in an Audi too, for that matter ? d. No issues.If your dad can open a steel garden gate, he can drive a Nano. e. The brakes are good and suffice for its designed use (read city punting around). I have had no issues till date, even with a couple of harsh braking incidents. f. I am from Delhi, leave that to B'lore t-Bhp-ians ! The NANO is a fantastic piece of engineering, just go ahead and get the special edition - really worth the price. The AC unit is a real chiller, as is the heater (you may not need it in B'lore, though). | |
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24th January 2013, 10:57 | #343 | ||
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Exactly the same feeling and opinion about this awesome little wonder ! It just brings a smile on my face everytime! And the number of people who either knock on the window to compliment or ask questions, or the people who curiously enquire at petrol pumps about the various aspects of this car .... Priceless. BTW - I have some news - that a 800 cc Nano WITH power steering can be expected somewhere around Q4 2013. | ||
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27th January 2013, 19:23 | #344 |
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+1 to that. I forgot to mention this very important property of this little wonder ! Every child shouts Nano ! Nano ! each time I pass ! I do not remember how many times I have been asked about its space and mileage figures ! Kudos to TATA and my special thanks to Mr Ratan TATA for this masterpiece ! |
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