[Mr.Boss]

Originally Posted by pseudo_coder

I am considering buying a 4-6 year old Sunny. My concern is about service. Can it be serviced at Renault service centers?

Nope.
Why bother for a vehicle that is out of warranty, get it done from FNG

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by pseudo_coder

I saw a listing for 2013 model with 60k odo, for 3.5 lakh. I won't pay more than 3 lakh. For that price, people are selling only small hatchbacks.

And there's a reason for the part in bold. Anyway - your requirements are precisely cut so this car fits in your list or probables rightfully. Do check the following points though.

The car has already done 60k kms. Do check insurance validity, tyre life & last 3 service records. An automatic that has done 60k may very well have a big overhaul just around the corner that will take your net cost of owning it to 4Lakhs or even more in couple of months. And I'd not put that much money on a 2013 made Nissan - in India. Anywhere else in the world - I would. The hatchbacks are asking for that premium because they come with the peace of mind of a good service network and availability of spares for a long time.

[pseudo_coder]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

And there's a reason for the part in bold.

That includes Micra and Brio BTW :-)

Originally Posted by Reinhard

An automatic that has done 60k may very well have a big overhaul just around the corner that will take your net cost of owning it to 4Lakhs or even more in couple of months.

Didn't know that a big overhaul may be required at just 60k. Thanks. Will check.

Any other cars you think I should consider?

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by pseudo_coder

Didn't know that a big overhaul may be required at just 60k. Thanks. Will check.

Its the running + the age of the car combined.

Originally Posted by pseudo_coder

Any other cars you think I should consider?

In that budget as a spacious automatic sedan? No. Not with confidence. They'll have problems or a dark history in workshop for sure. I sold my 9 year old Tata diesel hatchback for almost 2 lakhs last month. So... . What you are getting in that Sunny is probably the best deal you'll get in your specifications and price bracket.

[pseudo_coder]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

In that budget as a spacious automatic sedan? No. Not with confidence. They'll have problems or a dark history in workshop for sure. I sold my 9 year old Tata diesel hatchback for almost 2 lakhs last month. So... . What you are getting in that Sunny is probably the best deal you'll get in your specifications and price bracket.

I hate the used car market. I recently sold my 10 month old Ecosport Titanium Plus AT for just 10.3 Lakh. But when I try to find one, the prices make me want to go for a new car instead.

[wheelspinner]

Hi team,

As you know I was looking for a reliable used sedan with decent looks, and good legroom. I recently spotted a Nissan Sunny XL Petrol (2013) that is very low run, only 36k on the odo, and it reminded me that GTO owned one too:

https://www.spinny.com/buy-used-cars...2013/10114587/

Immediately, I visited Spinny, and booked the car. I liked it. But the tires on the rear are dry, and the rear suspension makes a bit of screeching noise under full load (5 people) but not under normal conditions. Engine cover inside engine bay is missing. But mechanically everything else looks good. Tax is till '28, and insurance valid till next year. Also, discovered that challans are pending again (which they said will be cleared).

It ticks all the boxes for my first car. All safety features, and essentials. It is also very roomy at the back. Seats are super comfy.

Should I go for it?

[2000rpm]

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

Hi team,

As you know I was looking for a reliable used sedan with decent looks, and good legroom. I recently spotted a Nissan Sunny XL Petrol (2013) that is very low run, only 36k on the odo, and it reminded me that GTO owned one too:

The car is banged up from all sides. Why would you want to buy such a car?

A lot of Sunny's will be available on OLX, search there and get a much better car!

[wheelspinner]

Originally Posted by 2000rpm

The car is banged up from all sides. Why would you want to buy such a car?

A lot of Sunny's will be available on OLX, search there and get a much better car!

On OLX, can't trust the sellers. There is no written agreement.

It's Spinny budget, so there are a few cosmetic issues. Also, the car seems to be very low run so I think the engine and transmission should be fine. It doesn't seem to have any major accidents though and in Kolkata traffic I think this is normal. What do you think?

[Superleggera]

I would request you to stay away. My friend has a 2013 Nissan Sunny (Original Owner, well maintained) and its ECM blew up last week. Repair costs are above 1 L.

[Mr.Boss]

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

the tires on the rear are dry

Going by the odo reading I suspect those (2 MRFs) are OE tyres serving for a decade. If you are buying, irrespective of the thread depth get them changed.

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

rear suspension makes a bit of screeching noise under full load (5 people) but not under normal conditions

If it is not from the Twist beam bush, replacement is cheaper (nothing more than 7-8k for complete rear suspension change)

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

Engine cover inside engine bay is missing.

Petrol engine never came with a cover

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

Should I go for it?

For the price, it's a no-nonsense car with all necessary safety features and basic convenience features. If I were you, I would go for it if I couldn't find a Honda city of similar vintage & similar price tag.

[wheelspinner]

Originally Posted by Mr.Boss

Going by the odo reading I suspect those (2 MRFs) are OE tyres serving for a decade. If you are buying, irrespective of the thread depth get them changed.


If it is not from the Twist beam bush, replacement is cheaper (nothing more than 7-8k for complete rear suspension change)


Petrol engine never came with a cover


For the price, it's a no-nonsense car with all necessary safety features and basic convenience features. If I were you, I would go for it if I couldn't find a Honda city of similar vintage & similar price tag.

I fell in love with the space in the car, now I just can't think logically ready to ignore all other issues. But family is opposing buying a decade old car with issues. Especially after I discussed the ECM blow up.

But the noise from the rear suspension is a bit concerning. Every mechanic I went for is warning me against high maintenance and the parts scarcity (FNG says parts need to be ordered from somewhere).

Spinny is very aggressive after discussing the issues. Seems like they want to sell it as it is by hiding the issues to gullible customers. At least for me they offered a 5k discount.

How much discount should I ask for and should I go at all for the car considering the noise? Could it indicate it wasn't well maintained?

[wheelspinner]

Originally Posted by Mr.Boss

If it is not from the Twist beam bush, replacement is cheaper (nothing more than 7-8k for complete rear suspension change)

Sorry for the back to back post. Finally, I managed to find a video that describes the exact noise coming out of the car's rear:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v5A4Mkk8IkY

Worth going for it? How much should it cost? Also why isn't Spinny fixing it and still mentioning in inspection checklist that suspension is 100% ok? Is their 200 point inspection a big fat lie?

[Mr.Boss]

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

But family is opposing buying a decade old car with issues. Especially after I discussed the ECM blow up.

ECM issues crop up in every brand, at least I've hands on experience with Honda, Maruti, Hyundai & Ford. If there are no errors in MID or after a thorough scan, neglect this fear. About family being skeptical on a decade old machine, they are right.

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

But the noise from the rear suspension is a bit concerning. Every mechanic I went for is warning me against high maintenance and the parts scarcity (FNG says parts need to be ordered from somewhere)

Mechanical parts are easily available. Last I visited Nissan Showroom was at least 5 years ago and managed to get all necessary parts through Boodmo & local stores.

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

Spinny is very aggressive after discussing the issues. Seems like they want to sell it as it is by hiding the issues to gullible customers.

Stay away, if you feel there is no transparency.

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

Finally, I managed to find a video that describes the exact noise coming out of the car's rear:
...
How much should it cost?

If it is exactly the same noise from Shock absorbers, it should be less than 7-8k fix

Originally Posted by wheelspinner

why isn't Spinny fixing it and still mentioning in inspection checklist that suspension is 100% ok? Is their 200 point inspection a big fat lie?

I don't have hands on experience with Spinny, couldn't comment on their business model.

[carhead]

Nissan Sunny 1.5-litre, four cylinder petrol engine was not updated for BS 6 possibly due to lack of business case.

They then launched Magnite with 3 pot NA or Turbo options.

Sunny production continues for export to Egypt as per Autocar India.

Assuming this is true, cant they plonk either of the Magnite engines? While mid-size sedans are a diminishing segment, this could still add 2-300 monthly sales at least for Nissan.

Or is the additional investment too high?