[vibhu_f430]

^^ The Indian spec 1.5 diesel is prehistoric compared to the competition! The verna 1.6 diesel is a gem, But unfortunately the rest of the car is crap.

The fiesta's Dynamics with the verna's engine will be a dream!
Hope it comes true in some form.

Cheers

[MAS]

Production of the 2013 Fiesta begins in Germany.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/intern...ml#post2961398

Competition - beware...

[sanhan10]

Hi everyone! I am new to team BHP. I have been a Ford Ikon Owner since 2003. Love the car very much and am sold on the sheer drivability of the car, excellent handling and good to drive on the highways and in the city. Even after 80000 Ks on the odo (done just today) the car is absolutely rattle free and feels rock solid which speaks something of the build quality.
I didn't surprise myself therefore when I booked the diesel Fiesta ( The old Fiesta is now called the Classic) after reading and re-reading Rehaan's excellent review, the posts by team BHPians and test driving all of the competition including the petrol Fiesta. I think the Diesel Fiesta is better to drive than the petrol. I got a good deal on the car that just blew the Verna and the Vento away. I wait impatiently for the new car!

[AutoIndian]

Originally Posted by sanhan10

Hi everyone! I am new to team BHP.

Welcome to TBHP

Originally Posted by sanhan10

I didn't surprise myself therefore when I booked the diesel Fiesta ( The old Fiesta is now called the Classic). I got a good deal on the car that just blew the Verna and the Vento away. I wait impatiently for the new car!

If you don't mind could you please share with us, what deal did you get for the Diesel Fiesta? (any deals on a diesel car are really hard to come by). When are you getting the delivery. Are you exchanging your Icon for the Fiesta?

[sanhan10]

@ Autoindian.

The deal is @ 10.4 Lac on road for the Titanium plus ( vs. On road price of approximately 11.17 Lac). And no, I'm not trading the old Ikon for it which I plan to sell if and when I get a suitable buyer. I'm expecting delivery of the car in mid December.

[kaush666]

I got a quote for 12.3 lacs on-road for Fiesta Diesel Titanium+ today. (OTR 12.68. 30k reduced in insurance and 6k essential pack FOC)

Was initially looking for a second hatchback but now going for a sedan. The Fiesta seems to impress me much. Is this a good deal?

Also how much mileage can one expect within the city and also on the highway?

[KINI]

Originally Posted by kaush666

I got a quote for 12.3 lacs on-road for Fiesta Diesel Titanium+ today. (OTR 12.68. 30k reduced in insurance and 6k essential pack FOC)

Was initially looking for a second hatchback but now going for a sedan. The Fiesta seems to impress me much. Is this a good deal?

Also how much mileage can one expect within the city and also on the highway?

That is nowhere a good deal.Settle for nothing less than a lakh less.Try getting hold of somebody from Ford.The friends/family offer fetches close to 2L discount.

As for mileage BHPian MAS has averaged a mileage of 17kmpl with a decent mix of city and highway driving.

Hope this helps

[blackfire_9]

Hey buddy!

Any particular reasons about why you think Ford's 1.5 is prehistoric in comparison to the competition? Please share some insights.

Originally Posted by vibhu_f430

^^ The Indian spec 1.5 diesel is prehistoric compared to the competition! The verna 1.6 diesel is a gem, But unfortunately the rest of the car is crap.

[kaush666]

Originally Posted by KINI

That is nowhere a good deal.Settle for nothing less than a lakh less.Try getting hold of somebody from Ford.The friends/family offer fetches close to 2L discount.

As for mileage BHPian MAS has averaged a mileage of 17kmpl with a decent mix of city and highway driving.

Hope this helps

Really? Damn I was thinking at first itself that it would be atleast 70k discount since it moves slowly. I was not prepared to accept BS from the SA but hey loved the car once I saw it and was checking it out that I didn't hear much of what he said.

I have a brother who works for Ford Credit. I spoke to him today. He should be able to fetch me more.

I referred MAS's thread (excellent thread bro btw )
Since he mentioned OTR as 12.2 last year I thought 12.3 OTR for Titanium+ Diesel was a good deal.

Any particular things to be wary of when purchasing Fiesta? Any persistent issues / niggles? Already own a Punto so no problem with plastics of Fiesta.

[MAS]

Originally Posted by kaush666

Really? Damn I was thinking at first itself that it would be atleast 70k discount since it moves slowly. I was not prepared to accept BS from the SA but hey loved the car once I saw it and was checking it out that I didn't hear much of what he said.

I have a brother who works for Ford Credit. I spoke to him today. He should be able to fetch me more.

I referred MAS's thread (excellent thread bro btw )
Since he mentioned OTR as 12.2 last year I thought 12.3 OTR for Titanium+ Diesel was a good deal.

Any particular things to be wary of when purchasing Fiesta? Any persistent issues / niggles? Already own a Punto so no problem with plastics of Fiesta.

I'm happy my inputs were useful.

The Fiesta is a gem of a car. I drove twice to Ambur and back to Chennai on Thursday and Friday, a total of 1000 kms in two days. The car has amazing dynamics and is always in control.

In the 1000 km trip (with 200 kms of local/city/village driving), the car sipped an average of 4.9 litres/100 km (20.4 kmpl). The cruise control is also a great boon on highways (i miss this in my Endeavour) and helps to achieve better fuel economy apart from relaxed drive. In the city the car consumes about 5.6 Litres/100 km.

I'm amazed by the technology Ford has put together into the car. Apart from the ones mentioned by Ford, the following are my practical observations
- the NVH is class leading (my German Colleague who drives a VW diesel Toureg back home found it hard to believe that the car is a Diesel). Fatigue levels are far less in a Fiesta.

- the new EPS is wonderful and contributes heavily in making the drive enjoyable. It is absolutely light but very direct. In spite of being direct, it does not turn on its own when driven on bad roads (my endeavour's steering gets a mind of us own when driven on bad roads). The "pull-drift technology" is NOT a mere marketing jargon in this case.

- JERK-FREE drive. In all the other cars i have owned, the rpm goes down to idle on pressing the clutch, making the gear changes a bit jerky and uncomfortable. But in the Fiesta, while Shifting up to a higher gear, pressing the clutch reduces the RPM to the level at which the engine would spin in the higher hear when the clutch is released. This ensures the gear shifts are smooth, jerk-free and effortless. Pressing the clutch for a longer time gets down the rpm to idle.

- After completing 21K kms, the engine has settled down well. It is super smooth and drives very well.

As far as issues are concerned, there was the defective steering shaft, which was replaced in the second service. The only complaint i have is the tak-tak noise i get from the rear shocks. I will get it checked when i get time.

Where are you booking the car? MPL or Chennai Ford. Go ahead and get yourself a Fiesta. It is an absolute no nonsense car, which had been very well out together by Ford.

[kaush666]

Originally Posted by MAS

I'm happy my inputs were useful.

The Fiesta is a gem of a car.

Where are you booking the car? MPL or Chennai Ford. Go ahead and get yourself a Fiesta. It is an absolute no nonsense car, which had been very well out together by Ford.

Thanks for the quick reply MAS. I have more or less finalized the Fiesta. The car truly tugs at the heart.

I will most probably be booking at MPL Ford. I will be getting a quote from Chennai Ford on Monday. What do you think is a good price for the Titanium+? I am being offered 12.3 lacs on the road. Is it a good deal? Cos KINI in the post above said a lakh worth of discount can be got. I think my brother at Ford Credit should be able to get me some discounts. All in all what do you think would be a good price.

Thanks & cheers,
Kaushik

[MAS]

Originally Posted by kaush666

Thanks for the quick reply MAS. I have more or less finalized the Fiesta. The car truly tugs at the heart.

I will most probably be booking at MPL Ford. I will be getting a quote from Chennai Ford on Monday. What do you think is a good price for the Titanium+? I am being offered 12.3 lacs on the road. Is it a good deal? Cos KINI in the post above said a lakh worth of discount can be got. I think my brother at Ford Credit should be able to get me some discounts. All in all what do you think would be a good price.

Thanks & cheers,
Kaushik

I found MPL to be better than Chennai Ford as my SA at MPL was one if the best guys i have seen in the industry.

30K is a good discount. With your friend in Ford Credit, I'm sure you will get a better price. When i got my car, the F & F (Friends & Family) discount was not available for the Fiesta. You can check if this is now available as this will workout to around 17-20K.

I would also suggest you to push the dealers to take the ex-showroom price below the 10 lakh mark. This will save you another 50K in taxes as any car with an ex-showroom of <10 Lakhs attracts 10% sales tax, instead of 15% (difference of 5% or 50K)

All in all your discounts could work out to a lakh if the above happens. Wish you good luck with the car.

[anachronix]

If you have a friend in Ford who can refer you for the F&F scheme, the OTR price for T+ Diesel is 10.9L

Please talk to your SA again.

Originally Posted by kaush666

I am being offered 12.3 lacs on the road. Is it a good deal?

Yes, both my Ford cars were bought from MPL Ford with the help of Mr.Michel & Mr.Sam. Now Mr.Sam has left MPL Ford and working as a Christian missionary. Very nice guys to deal with and very helpful too. I have always had problems with Chennai Ford, be it Sales or Service.

Originally Posted by MAS

I found MPL to be better than Chennai Ford as my SA at MPL was one if the best guys i have seen in the industry.

[kaush666]

Originally Posted by anachronix

If you have a friend in Ford who can refer you for the F&F scheme, the OTR price for T+ Diesel is 10.9L

Please talk to your SA again.

Yes, both my Ford cars were bought from MPL Ford with the help of Mr.Michel & Mr.Sam. Very nice guys to deal with and very helpful too.

That price is just too good to be true.

Will call up and check with my bro and speak to the SA. MPL Ford is quite known to me as many of my close kin have purchased there. And they have all had very good experiences. The SA I dealt with yesterday was Mr.Shanmugam. Presume he is new. Will talk it over and make the decision ASAP.

Thanks to MAS, KINI and anachronix for your quick insights.

Cheers,
K

OT: My brother who I said works for Ford doesn't actually work for Ford Motor Co. (FMC). He works for FBSC (Ford Business Service Center a.k.a Ford Credit)

Is it still possible to be eligible for the Friends & Family discount?

[anachronix]

Its true, but there are very limited cars and color choices.

Originally Posted by kaush666

That price is just too good to be true.

Yes

OT: My brother who I said works for Ford doesn't actually work for Ford Motor Co. (FMC). He works for FBSC (Ford Business Service Center a.k.a Ford Credit)

Is it still possible to be eligible for the Friends & Family discount?