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Originally Posted by sriramv.iyer The bike looks small (and would be appear even smaller with me on it :P ) and the plastic quality is NOT fitting for a 1.5L bike. Fairing seems a let down in quality too. |
IMHO, CBR250R seems perfect for a 250cc. Not too small, and not too 'poser' either! (I only saw the bike, and didnt get to ride/sit on it yet).
Regarding plastic quality, there were news in Xbhp forums that the plastic quality in the initial batch of pre-production CBRs were not upto the mark, and Honda had rectified this later.
@vkochar: Didnt you feel the black bike on display in the Chennai showroom is not from the same batch as the red? Red one looks shiny and new, while the black already looks a bit old. Even the paint didnt have gloss!
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Originally Posted by sriramv.iyer 1. We have 220cc (Pulsar) / 223 cc (ZMA/ZMR) bikes already - Producing up to 21 BHP (CBR produces 25 BHP)
2. ZMR has PGM-Fi as CBR
3. ZMR/ZMA seems to be better built
4. ZMR is priced 94K ex-showroom Bangalore (52 K less than CBR)
5. R15, though has only 17 BHP, is much better built and technically more advanced esp in chassis front (others: camshaft balancer (does CBR have one?))
6. CBR250R is single cylinder as all the bikes discussed above
So, do you really think CBR250R is priced as 'VFM'? |
1 & 2. Pulsar 220 produces 21bhp alright, and if ever a Pulsar 250 comes out, it would definitly beat the CBR on power. ZMR only has 17.5bhp and is nowhere in comparison to the CBR! (110bhp per ton compared to 150 bhp per ton of the CBR)
3 & 4. I also feel ZMR is better built. I loved ZMR plastics when i saw it first! However, would you really want to be seen on an ZMR or a CBR? However good the plastics may be, ZMR looks nothing better than a CBZ Extreme with an oversized fairing and no overall proportions. (With all due respect to any owners here.) Why pay 94k for an ZMR when its 20k more than P220DTSi and comes with 3 bhp less and awkward 'poser' looks?
5 & 6. R15 with R125 looks would be a superb combination for India. But with the current looks, its too small and toy-like (specially with the small rear) for heavy guys like me. IMHO, R15 is not exactly VFM too. Doesnt look proportional (with that rear spoiling the whole package), and has only 17bhp (Who cares what technology has went in. My old 180DTSi had same power and that was just 64k INR, and returns good mileage too!)
CBR, for me-
0. Has ABS!!! (Should be standard on all bikes!)
1. Looks good without any awkwardness.
2. Has more than decent power.
3. Can cruise at 100 - 125 kmph effortlessly (based on reviews). A relaxed 100 kmph is what i feel is ideal for mile-crunching.
4. Good handling (Based on reviews).
5. Decent FE. (Again from reviews).
6. Affordable pricetag and feeling of money well spent (With the Honda and CBR names associated)!
As for the plastic quality, I was living with a Pulsar180 DTSi for the past five years, and with some care, it never failed me once (Except for the well- renowned silencer rusting). I dont think CBR would either!
PS- Looks like a Toyota Etios situation. But a winner neverthless.