The Royal Enfield 500 Classic thread!

Randhawa · 1st February 2011, 09:31

@Hemant-Not any more as I was told by a mechanic at the workshop who claimed to have fitted these on TBTS and I think there might be some difference in the frame. Only thing you need to file is the washer hole just to let the flange bolt through.

ricky_1605 · 2nd February 2011, 12:00

@randhawa - After changing the silencer to goldie on my 2002 Thunderbird, the bike's performance has increased. While talking to a fellow bhpian i told him i was doing 95 kmph at 4000 RPM. He said it is too much. Please tell me if it has any harmful effects? What is the usual RPM at 95 kmph? Is my bike running hot?

virtualhemant · 2nd February 2011, 19:38

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Originally Posted by ricky_1605

@randhawa - After changing the silencer to goldie on my 2002 Thunderbird, the bike's performance has increased. While talking to a fellow bhpian i told him i was doing 95 kmph at 4000 RPM. He said it is too much. Please tell me if it has any harmful effects? What is the usual RPM at 95 kmph? Is my bike running hot?

Just yesterday one of my friend who own TBTS said he did 120kmph. I feel 95kmph is very much possible.

EssYouWe · 2nd February 2011, 20:39

TBTS at 120 would really surprise me. Is he running a larger main jet? Perhaps he did it over a rather longish stretch.
@ricky
4000 rpm does sound slightly high for 95kmph. Btw, how do you know it was 4000 rpm? Most power is available under 4500 rpm, post which it will drop drastically. You might not be tuned right. Get your carb retuned by an experienced mech.

Randhawa · 2nd February 2011, 20:58

@Ricky- Dont know if the rpm to speed ratio is right or wrong but if thats what others are getting on their non UCE TBTS then fine if not then probably your clutch is slipping.

EssYouWe · 2nd February 2011, 21:06

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I think a more plausible problem area could be the carb setting. Clutch slipping is rather easily identified. Don't you agree sirji?

Randhawa · 2nd February 2011, 21:19

^Please explain how can carb settings increase rpm and not speed?
∨ How can you reach higher rpm in taller gear when engine not getting enough fuel or air?

EssYouWe · 2nd February 2011, 21:30

No no, the carb setting shouldn't impact the rpm. What might be happening is that at higher rpm, the engine might not be breathing as well as it should.

navpreet318 · 2nd February 2011, 21:37

One cannot change the RPM to speed ratio unless one changes gear ratios or the clutch is slipping.This is a simple mechanical linkage which obeys mechanical rules.

EDIT:Changing carb settings, exhausts and any other fiddling would only lead to reaching that rpm/speed quicker.But nothing else.

Randhawa · 2nd February 2011, 21:54

Thank you Navpreet for confirming my thought. OT- when is your C5 due?

navpreet318 · 2nd February 2011, 22:29

Not anytime soon.A lot many things changed.

Also the US release of the Classic Chrome has intrigued me even more now.So in all probability all the 50+ changes that have been in the news would be ready in the Classic Chrome.So it makes sense.

Also i have directed some funds to another acquisition of mine.Will post about it later.

ricky_1605 · 3rd February 2011, 10:16

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Originally Posted by virtualhemant

Just yesterday one of my friend who own TBTS said he did 120kmph. I feel 95kmph is very much possible.

I think you got me wrong. 95 kmph is not the top speed, its the speed at 4000 RPM. I have done 125 kmph on my TB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EssYouWe

TBTS at 120 would really surprise me. Is he running a larger main jet? Perhaps he did it over a rather longish stretch.
@ricky
4000 rpm does sound slightly high for 95kmph. Btw, how do you know it was 4000 rpm? Most power is available under 4500 rpm, post which it will drop drastically. You might not be tuned right. Get your carb retuned by an experienced mech.

Don't know about TBTS but my old TB can do and yes you need a long stretch for that.
TB has a tachometer.

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Originally Posted by Randhawa

@Ricky- Dont know if the rpm to speed ratio is right or wrong but if thats what others are getting on their non UCE TBTS then fine if not then probably your clutch is slipping.

Yes i think there is some problem in clutch because when i accelerate hard it feels like the clutch is still pressed even though when i am not holding the clutch lever. My mechanic said i have to change clutch plates. Can this be a reason?

Randhawa · 3rd February 2011, 10:33

Yes that is the only reason. This time around get the CI500 clutch plates installed, you will love them.

ricky_1605 · 3rd February 2011, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Randhawa

Yes that is the only reason. This time around get the CI500 clutch plates installed, you will love them.

Ok now i am curious, what differences will be there? What is the difference in cost?

nasirkaka · 3rd February 2011, 13:26

Could it be possible for the environmental temperature to affect the C5 mileage?

I was getting about 22-24 kmpl during the winter months, and not the average is back to 27kmpl. wondering!!

1st February 2011, 09:31	#1231
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,195 Thanked: 355 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review @Hemant-Not any more as I was told by a mechanic at the workshop who claimed to have fitted these on TBTS and I think there might be some difference in the frame. Only thing you need to file is the washer hole just to let the flange bolt through.
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2nd February 2011, 12:00	#1232
ricky_1605 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 335 Thanked: 49 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review @randhawa - After changing the silencer to goldie on my 2002 Thunderbird, the bike's performance has increased. While talking to a fellow bhpian i told him i was doing 95 kmph at 4000 RPM. He said it is too much. Please tell me if it has any harmful effects? What is the usual RPM at 95 kmph? Is my bike running hot?
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2nd February 2011, 20:39	#1234
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review TBTS at 120 would really surprise me. Is he running a larger main jet? Perhaps he did it over a rather longish stretch. @ricky 4000 rpm does sound slightly high for 95kmph. Btw, how do you know it was 4000 rpm? Most power is available under 4500 rpm, post which it will drop drastically. You might not be tuned right. Get your carb retuned by an experienced mech.
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2nd February 2011, 20:58	#1235
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,195 Thanked: 355 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review @Ricky- Dont know if the rpm to speed ratio is right or wrong but if thats what others are getting on their non UCE TBTS then fine if not then probably your clutch is slipping.
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2nd February 2011, 21:06	#1236
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review ^ I think a more plausible problem area could be the carb setting. Clutch slipping is rather easily identified. Don't you agree sirji?
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2nd February 2011, 21:19	#1237
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,195 Thanked: 355 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review ^Please explain how can carb settings increase rpm and not speed? ∨ How can you reach higher rpm in taller gear when engine not getting enough fuel or air? Last edited by Randhawa : 2nd February 2011 at 21:33.
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2nd February 2011, 21:30	#1238
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review No no, the carb setting shouldn't impact the rpm. What might be happening is that at higher rpm, the engine might not be breathing as well as it should.
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2nd February 2011, 21:37	#1239
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,267 Thanked: 2,993 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review One cannot change the RPM to speed ratio unless one changes gear ratios or the clutch is slipping.This is a simple mechanical linkage which obeys mechanical rules. EDIT:Changing carb settings, exhausts and any other fiddling would only lead to reaching that rpm/speed quicker.But nothing else. Last edited by navpreet318 : 2nd February 2011 at 21:38.
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2nd February 2011, 21:54	#1240
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,195 Thanked: 355 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review Thank you Navpreet for confirming my thought. OT- when is your C5 due?
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2nd February 2011, 22:29	#1241
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,267 Thanked: 2,993 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review Not anytime soon.A lot many things changed. Also the US release of the Classic Chrome has intrigued me even more now.So in all probability all the 50+ changes that have been in the news would be ready in the Classic Chrome.So it makes sense. Also i have directed some funds to another acquisition of mine.Will post about it later.
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3rd February 2011, 10:33	#1243
Randhawa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 1,195 Thanked: 355 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review Yes that is the only reason. This time around get the CI500 clutch plates installed, you will love them.
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3rd February 2011, 13:26	#1245
nasirkaka Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,353 Thanked: 3,213 Times	Re: Royal Enfield 500 Classic 4100 km Ownership Review Could it be possible for the environmental temperature to affect the C5 mileage? I was getting about 22-24 kmpl during the winter months, and not the average is back to 27kmpl. wondering!!
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