Indian Two Wheelers that flopped

Jayabusa · 21st August 2009, 15:43

How did the Bajaj Legend Tricks fare?

anjan_c2007 · 21st August 2009, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Jayabusa

How did the Bajaj Legend Tricks fare?

It was TRICS as far as I can remember. The engine used to overheat and lots of complaints came along. They had also launched the Chetak 4 Stroke then, which may have used the same engine. None of these 150 cc two strokes could survive in the market.

alok_balsekar · 22nd August 2009, 04:36

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Originally Posted by anjan_c2007

It was TRICS as far as I can remember. The engine used to overheat and lots of complaints came along. They had also launched the Chetak 4 Stroke then, which may have used the same engine. None of these 150 cc two strokes could survive in the market.

Yes ...

TRICS was
Throttle Regulated Ignition Control System

anjan_c2007 · 22nd August 2009, 19:06

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Originally Posted by alok_balsekar

Yes ...

TRICS was
Throttle Regulated Ignition Control System

Quote:

Originally Posted by anjan_c2007

It was TRICS as far as I can remember. The engine used to overheat and lots of complaints came along. They had also launched the Chetak 4 Stroke then, which may have used the same engine. None of these 150 cc two strokes could survive in the market.

Thanks Ashok for revealing the trick about the TRICS.
I am to correct myself here- My post should read " None of these 150 cc four strokes (from Bajaj) could survive in the market".
Even now Bajaj launches a new 4 stroke scooter every other year. the name changes from Saffire to Wave ( I may be corrected) to Kristal and so on but these don't sell!

akshay4587 · 22nd August 2009, 19:11

4 stroke scooters never picked up pace in the market
even eterno has been laid to rest now
Honda rules in ungeared 4 stroke market

SS-Traveller · 22nd August 2009, 20:23

One more to the list was the Avanti Garelli 50cc Autogear moped.

yamdoot · 23rd August 2009, 15:49

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Originally Posted by fieroid

The Bajaj Eliminator was sold in very limited .
HH Sleek
Hero Puch Turbo
RE Zundapp Explorer
The Kinetic Comet 250 was sold in limited numbers however
Joel

these bike were not flops joe.. they did sell in large numbers.. all the comets were sold out and wud still sell if avlbl..

gt_mustang · 23rd August 2009, 20:35

the eliminator wasnt a flopit was limited
ithinkthe enticer sold well enuff

milindajp · 25th August 2009, 13:37

Some of our fellow bhpians are branding Yamaha RD350 as a "flopped" one. On what basis their judgment came, I don't know. This particular model was one of the best and successful models ever launched by Yamaha worldwide. Among the bikers, its popularity is very very high even today. In terms of technology, power, and performance, this is one of the best bike ever came to Indian market.

But, RD350 was not meant for the mass. So, judging a bike “flop” or “success” by mere no of pieces sold is not right. You can never compare a Maruti 800 and a Maruti Zen – they are from different segments meant for different class of motorists.

Yamaha simply stopped RD350 model due to 2-stroke factor – so was the case of RX100 (are you going to brand it a "flop" oneday?)

If you don't agree ... let's do a voting...

esteem_lover · 25th August 2009, 14:01

If the RD350 was a flop, then the Ferraris & Lambhorginis are also equally flops.

prince_pervez · 25th August 2009, 14:16

Thats is funny. RD350 flopped ? I know it is in 'more' demand now, but it certainly did not flop 'then'.

Ajaybiz · 25th August 2009, 14:29

RD was ment for those who live their dreams, and tell me any bike or car which has got 400-600% appriciation, mind it in 1983 end quarter it started selling for 22400/- on road now days only their cylinders goes for that much.

parimal_g · 25th August 2009, 16:08

TVS SPECTRA... Big flop Scooter and TVS Invested a lot for marketing as well as for R&D.It was really good looking Scooter but may be due to it was Geared one.
TVS Shaoline:Not flop Exactly but average sales:Reasons:Really don't know was very good bike may be very simlilar looking to Samurai.

Bajaj:Really dont remember the name of the Bike was just launch after success of Caliber.

Hero Honda:They sell everything they launch(Like Maruti).

Yamaha:
After RX 100 Only RXZ was bit hit ow all flop models except YBX and some popularity for Enticer.

Technocrat · 25th August 2009, 16:19

You mean Prowler from Bajaj?

HH Achiever was/is a flop.

As for the RD350 Debate, I am not really sure but whats the criteria for flop?

As per me any bike is flop if people didnt buy it in expected numbers irrespective of its market performance world over or its technical Superiority.

BMW F 650 was a brilliant bike yet it was a flop.

AFAIK RD 350 flopped in its later years as there were too many accidents & newer bikes were cheaper & more fuel efficient.

shankar.balan · 25th August 2009, 16:26

remember the mosquito like Suvega?
and the rather sexy looking Peugeot Design Sportif with the alloy wheels and the Enfield Zundapp Explorer and its cousin the SilverPlus moped with a fat petrol tank?
and the Enfield Fury and the truly horrible baby bullet 200 cc
what about the Luna? or was that a hot seller in those dark protectionist economy days?
remember also that Gujarat Fertilizer Corporation manufactured Scooter - forgot its name.
and the early Kapil Dev endorsed NISUKI bike - 1982-1983 era.
man - those vehicles have simply VANISHED in the last 15 years - last time I looked i didnt see any

21st August 2009, 15:43	#76
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akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,152 Thanked: 4,537 Times View My Garage	4 stroke scooters never picked up pace in the market even eterno has been laid to rest now Honda rules in ungeared 4 stroke market
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22nd August 2009, 20:23	#81
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,172 Thanked: 27,293 Times View My Garage	One more to the list was the Avanti Garelli 50cc Autogear moped. Attached Thumbnails
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23rd August 2009, 20:35	#83
gt_mustang BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hyd Posts: 247 Thanked: 5 Times	the eliminator wasnt a flopit was limited ithinkthe enticer sold well enuff
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25th August 2009, 13:37	#84
milindajp BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Highway Posts: 213 Thanked: 206 Times	RD350 a "Flop" Some of our fellow bhpians are branding Yamaha RD350 as a "flopped" one. On what basis their judgment came, I don't know. This particular model was one of the best and successful models ever launched by Yamaha worldwide. Among the bikers, its popularity is very very high even today. In terms of technology, power, and performance, this is one of the best bike ever came to Indian market. But, RD350 was not meant for the mass. So, judging a bike “flop” or “success” by mere no of pieces sold is not right. You can never compare a Maruti 800 and a Maruti Zen – they are from different segments meant for different class of motorists. Yamaha simply stopped RD350 model due to 2-stroke factor – so was the case of RX100 (are you going to brand it a "flop" oneday?) If you don't agree ... let's do a voting...
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25th August 2009, 14:01	#85
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 505 Times View My Garage	If the RD350 was a flop, then the Ferraris & Lambhorginis are also equally flops.
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25th August 2009, 14:16	#86
prince_pervez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Redwood shores, CA, USA Posts: 4,211 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Thats is funny. RD350 flopped ? I know it is in 'more' demand now, but it certainly did not flop 'then'.
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25th August 2009, 14:29	#87
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	RD was ment for those who live their dreams, and tell me any bike or car which has got 400-600% appriciation, mind it in 1983 end quarter it started selling for 22400/- on road now days only their cylinders goes for that much.
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25th August 2009, 16:08	#88
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	TVS SPECTRA... Big flop Scooter and TVS Invested a lot for marketing as well as for R&D.It was really good looking Scooter but may be due to it was Geared one. TVS Shaoline:Not flop Exactly but average sales:Reasons:Really don't know was very good bike may be very simlilar looking to Samurai. Bajaj:Really dont remember the name of the Bike was just launch after success of Caliber. Hero Honda:They sell everything they launch(Like Maruti). Yamaha: After RX 100 Only RXZ was bit hit ow all flop models except YBX and some popularity for Enticer.
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25th August 2009, 16:19	#89
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,815 Thanked: 2,701 Times	You mean Prowler from Bajaj? HH Achiever was/is a flop. As for the RD350 Debate, I am not really sure but whats the criteria for flop? As per me any bike is flop if people didnt buy it in expected numbers irrespective of its market performance world over or its technical Superiority. BMW F 650 was a brilliant bike yet it was a flop. AFAIK RD 350 flopped in its later years as there were too many accidents & newer bikes were cheaper & more fuel efficient. Last edited by Technocrat : 25th August 2009 at 16:20.
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25th August 2009, 16:26	#90
shankar.balan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,369 Thanked: 23,221 Times View My Garage	remember the mosquito like Suvega? and the rather sexy looking Peugeot Design Sportif with the alloy wheels and the Enfield Zundapp Explorer and its cousin the SilverPlus moped with a fat petrol tank? and the Enfield Fury and the truly horrible baby bullet 200 cc what about the Luna? or was that a hot seller in those dark protectionist economy days? remember also that Gujarat Fertilizer Corporation manufactured Scooter - forgot its name. and the early Kapil Dev endorsed NISUKI bike - 1982-1983 era. man - those vehicles have simply VANISHED in the last 15 years - last time I looked i didnt see any Last edited by shankar.balan : 25th August 2009 at 16:29.
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