[Gill]

A friend of mine needs help on documents and transfer of ownership of his bike.He bought a RD in 2005 got the documents signed from the seller,but didn't file the papers in RTO Office after that he left the country.Now he wants to get it transferred on his name and get the bike's fitness test again,as RC was valid till 1999. Old RC looks genuine as the then Engine number and chassis number matches.Tax is paid for life time.
He asked for help from me,I am not good at this process.Can you tell how he should procced to get it done!both the seller and buyer are from local city!

plz suggest!

[turbo_v12]

Take the RC book and old insurance copy to an RTO agent (and yes, even the one time tax-payment receipt). You also will have to take forms 28 and 29 (i think, or is it 29 and 30). If you still are in touch with the seller, get the forms signed by hi, else tell the RTO agent about this problem. They will do the rest.

Don't worry, it goes real smooth. Just keep following up the progress or they might end up losing your papers. And do take a photocopy of what you are giving them and their signs on the same...

[Gill]

Thanks for the information! I don't think he has old insurance copy and one-time tax payment receipt with him!
Can it be done with out these?He has few paper lying with him signed by seller,I will go and check them out.
NOC will be issued after the issue of fitness certificate?
One doubt:-Correct me If I am wrong,RD350 is a street legal bike?

[911turbo]

Originally Posted by Gill

A friend of mine needs help on documents and transfer of ownership of his bike.He bought a RD in 2005 got the documents signed from the seller,but didn't file the papers in RTO Office after that he left the country.Now he wants to get it transferred on his name and get the bike's fitness test again,as RC was valid till 1999. Old RC looks genuine as the then Engine number and chassis number matches.Tax is paid for life time.
He asked for help from me,I am not good at this process.Can you tell how he should procced to get it done!both the seller and buyer are from local city!

plz suggest!

I faced the same problem baiji, I have an 88 model Yezdi, facing almost same problem.

But now I will get my renewed RC in a week or so had been in process since 1 month, but I will get one for sure. All legal.
PM me. I'll let you know the process.

As documents are required, you need to get valid Insurance, Fitness Certificate of the Bike on a letter head mentioning the service center with stam and signature, PAN Card, Pencil Print of Engine Number and Chassis Number for the person. BTW, What is the year of Manifacture of the Bike?

[james]

Get a good agent who'll get this done for you.. It'll take time and he'll have to grease a lotta palms.
I was in the same boat a while ago. I have a DL registered RD with fitness that expired in 2000. I picked up the bike and started using it in karnataka about 2yrs ago. Finally decided to get it transfered to my name and all hell broke loose. I didnt have the NOC. The RTO here refused to even look at the bike. Delhi RTO wasnt helping me either. They told me to bring the bike to delhi and have it inspected. Then they would renew the fitness and give me the NOC. But for this i needed insurance. No Insurance Co. was willing to give me insurance cause the fitness had expired.
Finally caught hold of a pimp here and 5 months and inr 10,000 later my bike was legally registered in karnataka.
He managed to get the insurance done(he is also an ins agent), got his guys in the delhi RTO to renew the fitnes and issue the noc without showing the bike. NOC came here, LTT etc was paid and the bike was registered with a number of my choice.
The major hassle was getting the bike passed here. I had to show it to the RTO 4 times before he gave us the clear to proceed..

Gill, if the RTO is gonna remain the same, getting the fitness n registration done wont be much of a hassle. Most of the agents will be able to do this. Just make sure you check the papers along the way right till the end. make sure eveyrything is being done legally and they arent using any loopholes!!

[turbo_v12]

Originally Posted by Gill

Can it be done with out these?He has few paper lying with him signed by seller,I will go and check them out.
One doubt:-Correct me If I am wrong,RD350 is a street legal bike?

Speak about the NOC to the agent itself.

Yes, Gill, the RD is still a street legal bike (thank God for that). And the agent can get the work done without those papers too. As James said, however, it will take a lot of greading of palms and might take some time too. But it will work out.

All the best!

[pedrolourenco]

I bought a 25 year old bullet which had the RC expired for the last 10 years. I got it transferred to another RTO (same state) and renewed in the new RTO. Paid the agent Rs.2000/-. No problems.

[Gill]

I am working on this, Will update the thread as when things move forward!
Thanks for your suggestions

[Gill]

Hello,
Checked the document files,Following documents are there signed by the seller:-
1)Two copies of Form 29.
2)TWo Copies of Form 30.
3)Form No 60.
4)Affidavit like thing:-But it's has got no stamp(It has no date,good for Us),can get it legalised by stamp from notary)
5) Ration card Copy of Seller(address prof).

On the doubt is,these documents enough to pass the fitness test and get RC renewed and later on to Get a NOC.Can't contact the seller,as he has moved from the address.

@911 turbo, You mentioned about PAN card,is it for buyer or seller?
Enlisted documents are all I have from sellers side.

Plz suggest..

[911turbo]

Originally Posted by Gill

Hello,
Checked the document files,Following documents are there signed by the seller:-
1)Two copies of Form 29.
2)TWo Copies of Form 30.
3)Form No 60.
4)Affidavit like thing:-But it's has got no stamp(It has no date,good for Us),can get it legalised by stamp from notary)
5) Ration card Copy of Seller(address prof).

On the doubt is,these documents enough to pass the fitness test and get RC renewed and later on to Get a NOC.Can't contact the seller,as he has moved from the address.

@911 turbo, You mentioned about PAN card,is it for buyer or seller?
Enlisted documents are all I have from sellers side.

Plz suggest..

If you're trying to get RC reewed first on seller's name, then you require the seller's PAN Card. But if you're getting it directly on your name you need to submit yours.

Did you meet the seller personally or he is still untracable???

[Gill]

I haven't met the seller,no contact with him! These are the documents lying with the friend.Anyway around to get the RC renew without PAN card?Can some gifts work out?

[Gill]

Inquired with an agent in local RTO office today, the amount he quoted was shocking.
To renew RC-12500/Rs as the RC expired 10yrs back, need to pay the road tax again from 1999-2009 and five year from now.
To transfer the ownership-3k. I came back laughing in shock.
Is this amount just?

[alok_balsekar]

Originally Posted by Gill

Inquired with an agent in local RTO office today, the amount he quoted was shocking.
To renew RC-12500/Rs as the RC expired 10yrs back, need to pay the road tax again from 1999-2009 and five year from now.
To transfer the ownership-3k. I came back laughing in shock.
Is this amount just?

Taking you for a ride ....

There is no concept called "Renewing RC book" it is same as doing the 15 year fitness test ...

Is the bike registered in the same city as u?

1....Check if "OTT Paid" (One Time Tax) is mentioned in the Tax Book [If the bike is Pre 1990, there will be 2 books : (1) RC book and (2) Tax Book] ...

If OTT is paid, great .... NO FURTHER ROAD TAX NEEDED IF VEHICLE IS FROM SAME CITY ...

2 ..... Get Insurance (from New India or Oriental Insurance Agent)
You will find them outside most RTOs .... Can be done on your or the previous owner's name with out any hassles (no signatures needed )... The premium amount payment receipt will suffice for getting the RTO Fitness certificate....


3.... Get form number 25 filled out (For RTO Fitness certificate) ...

This is a test for road worthiness of vehicles > 15 yrs old ...

If done before 15 yrs are up, cost is Rs 60 ... if after 15 yrs , Rs 160 ...

Agents will add their commission ....

The Fitness is valid for 5 years ... after which, it needs to be renewed ....

4.... Get a PUC done for the Bike

5.... Get Form 29 & 30 for Xfer of ownership signed by previous owner ...

6.... 3 Copies of Form 30 Are needed for the NOC (ONLY needed if the bike does not belong to the same RTO as yours) ... It is cheaper to get NOC if u get it done from an Agent in the bikes current RTO...

If u pay your agent ...it is bomb expensive ....

7.... Octroi is needed (4% of purchase amount in Mumbai) if the bike is from Different RTO ... You can fake here ..I said I bought my 1962 Jawa for Rs 4000

7... Submit all these with a residence Proof documents (Passport photo copy will suffice)




Approx Costs ... (in Mumbai)

NOC : Rs 600 - 700 ...

Fitness Cert (Form 25) : Approx Rs 750 - 850

Insurance : Approx Rs 350 - 400 (for a 350 cc bike ... else less )

Octroi: 4% (if from outside Mumbai)

Transfer : Rs 550 ...

For what the Agent is asking .... looks like he wants to buy an RD too!!!!!!

[sahas83]

Gentlemen,

I need your advice and suggestion on this matter. I recently purchased a 1982 model Yezdi Classic 250 and the seller did not transfer the ownership of the vehicle to his name. It was still in the original owners name.

The documents I received are Form 25 ( signed by original owner ) Life Time tax sheet recepit in original, Green tax receipt in original, Insurance policy, Form 29, Transfer of ownership document. All signed.

After doing some research, I realised form 25 is not the RC book itself. Now, I have no idea what to do or how to get the vehicle transferred to my name. I find myself in a stupid situation and having lost quite a lot of money in this new venture.

I also do not have any details of the original owner. As a matter of fact, I do not even know if he is still alive.

Please help me in this regard. Awaiting your valuable inputs.

P.S - I tried posting this in the Advice section, but for some reason I could not post there due to membership privilege.

Regards,
Sahas

[sahas83]

I am also enclosing a few pics of the document which I assumed is the RC book. Please help me. I am based out of Bangalore in Karnataka and the document is written in Kannada.

Along with this, I received first owner signed form 25( no seal from RTO ), form 29, and original insurance sheets.

Please help.