[Technocrat]

Given your requirement FZ/Fazer suits more than R15 which wakes up quite late in the rpm band. The FZ I have heard is quite good at city speeds.

[sriramv.iyer]

Originally Posted by Mysticeyes

I'm bit confused as to go for R15 or Fazer. Which one would be the best to give company for my RX 100? I'm more of a relaxed kind of rider and prefer cruising rather than going over 60km/hr

Don't even think of R15 then... You need to keep the revvs really high to extract performance from R15.

You should take a P220 DTS-i then. I feel it is VFM compared to Fazer (or Apache 180 RTR Menace)

[Mysticeyes]

Originally Posted by sriramv.iyer

Don't even think of R15 then... You need to keep the revvs really high to extract performance from R15.

You should take a P220 DTS-i then. I feel it is VFM compared to Fazer (or Apache 180 RTR Menace)

Mods please excuse me if this post is OT. I've ruled out R15 and booked the Fazer (Lava Red) today. Its expected on August 17th. As for the Pulsars, I've had pretty bad experience with the 2 pulsars I had owned previously (P-150 2003 Jan-sold Jan 2006) (P-150 DTSi 2006 Jan - sold yesterday). The reliability of vehicles is of paramount importance to me and i always keep it a point to keep all my vehicles in showroom condition as much as possible without any rough treatment or carelessness.

However, both pulsars developed technical issues, which couldn't be solved even after repeated visits to the authorized service centres (the 2006 DTSi is literally in and out of workshop every 2nd day) If you compare this to the 14 year old RX 100 with me, which has given me trouble free ride so far (only 2 major visit to service center so far, both for painting and general overhaul), the ownership experience of both pulsars has been very unsatisfactory.

So I've ruled out bajaj too from my consideration list and want to stick on with Yamaha. Members please note that I didn't mean to hurt the sentiments of bajaj owners nor do I hold any grudge. After all, I grew up during the days of "Hamara Bajaj", clinging on to dad's beloved Bajaj Cub

[Seeler_Rebeiro]

Okay,
I went for a TD of the Fazer. There was no TD available for the Fazer but the person said I could TD a FZ16. The riding experience (he said) would be almost the same. This is my first TD of FZ16. So here goes (sorry for writing this in the thread for the Fazer)

1) Sitting position is quite comfortable. The handlebar on the FZ 16 was quite wide,which I initially thought that would be a problem, but it wasn'nt. On the Fazer, the handle bar is about 3 to 4 inches narrower and so I suspect the sitting and riding position will be slightly better than the FZ 16.

2) Instrument panel - On the FZ 16, it is not very easily readable in the day light. I guess with the Fazer, because of the fairing, the readability will improve. The switches are at the right places and I did not have to fumble to locate them. Very ergonomically designed. Found the horn, the turning lights, electronic start etc without even looking down at the panel. (My experience with these comes from Kinetic, Hero Honda ..)

3) Gears & Ride - Very good quality and I could adjust to the toe shift without any problem. Expect the same on the Fazer. Coming to the ride, the FZ 16 has very good handling. The wide tyres and the body mass move the center of gravity quite low and provide superb grip. At any speeds, you feel well planted on the road. I felt as if the bike was balancing itself, and required no effort from me, whether it is a winding road or the straight and narrow. New riders will find it easy to ride. Expect the same on the Fazer.

4) Power and Torque - I think the gearing has been designed for more torque (in 1st,2nd and even 3rd) than speed. Yery good city bike but it takes time to pick up speed. It is definitely not a bike for the highway. (I am not sure if there are any gearing ratio changes done for the Fazer, but the sales person said there was not).

5) Parking - There will be an issue in city parking for the Fazer. Definitely.

6) Pinion - when you look at it, you feel that there is no way a pinion rider can be sitting there. But it is quite comfortable for a pinion driver; for city riding only and additional caveat that they sit abreast. For long rides, it will be a problem, whether it is FZ16 or Fazer (never mind, the anti slip seats or whatever Yamaha advertises)

So, Fazer is out for me as most of my riding is in the city and I do not want to fork out 83K for some additional fairing only. For guys who are looking for a highway bike, my personal opinion is that the Fazer will disappoint.

As to FZ 16, I really liked the handling, since most of my driving is in the crowded city. Not so much concerned about the top speed or 0-60 figures. So will go in for this, but not immediately (may be 3 months) . Waiting and watching the other manufacturers.

[given2fly]

Parking would be as much an issue with Karizma or P-220 as this.

Secondly, that fairing helps you shield from oncoming wing. For anyone who goes on long rides, he needs wind protection. It is essential to save from the travel fatigue which the wind causes. So for that reason, it may be well worth buying if the other factors remain as promising as Yamaha promises them to be.

It's high time we get ownership reviews and long ride reports to honestly judge this bikes capacity.

Originally Posted by Seeler_Rebeiro

5) Parking - There will be an issue in city parking for the Fazer. Definitely.

So, Fazer is out for me as most of my riding is in the city and I do not want to fork out 83K for some additional fairing only. For guys who are looking for a highway bike, my personal opinion is that the Fazer will disappoint.

[Technocrat]

Hmm we really need to see how much wind it really deflects, Also for face you have always have helmet.

[Mysticeyes]

Experts, I've a doubt - is it possible to reduce the rear height of FZ/Fazer by adjusting the shocks? Kindly enlighten me

[rabnawaz_b]

Bike looks okay, but not like R15. I had been to Indira Nagar for a test drive and unfortunately they have only FZ and FZS for test drive and not Fazer

[Seeler_Rebeiro]

@giventofly - You seem to have bought into the Yamaha marketing drive of wind tunnel tests and all that. Did you see the size of the fairing of the Fazer. It is of the same size you would see on the HH and Pulsars. So don't expect that you will be cruising at 90km/hr and not have the wind in your face. You will have it and lots of it. And if it is the same as FZ 16, it will be struggling to cruise at that speeds. It is a city bike which Yamaha cleverly wants to position as a tourer by adding a fairing and charging a nice bomb too.


@Mysticeyes - I am not an expert but the main job of the shocks is to dissipate energy. Stiffer shocks mean harsher ride. You can adjust the cmpression damping (i.e. how qucikly the shock will compress on hitting a pothole for e.g) and rebound damping (how quickly it gains its original state). You can also adjust the spring preload (this is how hard the spring is initially and so the shock will not react to small bumps) and this affects the height of the motorcycle. This needs to be done by a specialist as you may also need to do the preload adjustment of the front forks and to make sure that under full compression damping, the rear will not hit the tyre. So if you adjust the preload setting, you will also need to adjust the dampings.

[Positron]

Saw a few of these 150cc Fazers in Kerala last month on holidays. They look alright, definitely one of the better looking bikes in India. The front fairing and especially lights looks almost exactly like my 600c Fazer (2003, foxeye model) - here's my bike and it's fuel consumption tracking - Fazer (Yamaha Fazer 600) | Fuelly

[anachronix]

I got some news from my friend who works at a Yamaha dealership. There is a Fazer 350 that is coming in January and they are expecting to receive the brochures and pamplets in couple of days. He also mentioned about this bike that is coming a dual exhaust configuration as well. This left me totally confused as I couldnt find a Fazer 350 anywhere in Yamaha's global portfolio. So I am guessing he meant the Fazer 250!

One more news is about the R15 getting the 250CC engine around the same time next year along with a Crux with front/rear disc brake config and a scooter bigger than the RayZ.

Great news if this is true, finally Yamaha waking up in India?

[the13thtee]

Just to refresh the thread, give it life and warm it up a bit:


My Yamaha Fazer 153 cc (2009):
KM done: 17000 km
Mods Performed:
1. K&N Filter
2. NGK Iridium Spark Plug
3. High Resistance Spark Plug Wire

Average FE : 40 kmpl with speeds up to 80 kmph and normal traffic

Please share your mods to increase the performance. I'm looking for a good Exhaust System.

Here goes the pictures: