All about Two stroke (2T) oils

Raccoon · 9th September 2009, 13:18

Exactly!

I'll call the dist. again. Anyway, I had to fill up with Jet X last month... which will last several weeks. So will have to wait anyway.

manyu · 12th September 2009, 01:38

Hi everyone,

I want to buy 2 litres of Motul 800 for my 50cc RC 2t engine. I have looked around quite some places. Cant anyone tell me dealers for motul 800 in New Delhi.

Regards
Manyu

straight6 · 12th September 2009, 04:15

I drained the Petronas today and topped up with the Motul 510.

Raccoon · 12th September 2009, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by manyu

Hi everyone,

I want to buy 2 litres of Motul 800 for my 50cc RC 2t engine. I have looked around quite some places. Cant anyone tell me dealers for motul 800 in New Delhi.

Regards
Manyu

If you had gone thru this thread, you'd have found the contact details of Motul. But... 800 for a 50 cc engine?

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Originally Posted by straight6

I drained the Petronas today and topped up with the Motul 510.

Cool, do let us know how you find it.

But what are you going to do with the drained oil? Surely you aren't throwing away good oil??

straight6 · 13th September 2009, 05:22

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Cool, do let us know how you find it.

But what are you going to do with the drained oil? Surely you aren't throwing away good oil??

I siphoned the Petronas with a pipe and put it back into its bottle. Will use it after I finish the 510.

straight6 · 14th September 2009, 02:33

Went for a ride to Khopoli today and I have to say that the oil is superb. The bike felt really smooth.

Raccoon · 14th September 2009, 15:13

Great! Would you say its better than Petronas 5000?? What about visible smoke? Gawd knows when I'm going to get mine... :(

furioussphinx · 15th September 2009, 00:19

Guys, I have a ported RX 135 5Speed running on 58mm pistons and asome other mods. Right now, i disconnected my 2T oil side box and fill the oil directly into the tank along with the fuel (Engine got seized thanks to that stupid pipe getting clogged). Right now, am using ONLY shell super-premium (or something of that sort) petrol with 5% oil. Is this safe for my bike?

2StrokeJunkie · 15th September 2009, 01:49

shell super premium ? what the hell is that ? sure you've not picked it off the sea-shore mate ?

i think what u mean is shell advance vsx semi syth . the green bottle ? its available at shell petrol bunks . run 35 to 40 ml of that stuff in a litre of petrol .

@ Attention all 2strokes esp those in bangalore . Motul 800 Fully Sythetic available for Rs 550 a litre . please pm and let me know if you are interested .

furioussphinx · 15th September 2009, 10:11

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Originally Posted by 2StrokeJunkie

shell super premium ? what the hell is that ? sure you've not picked it off the sea-shore mate ?

i think what u mean is shell advance vsx semi syth . the green bottle ? its available at shell petrol bunks . run 35 to 40 ml of that stuff in a litre of petrol .

@ Attention all 2strokes esp those in bangalore . Motul 800 Fully Sythetic available for Rs 550 a litre . please pm and let me know if you are interested .

I dont remember the name what they call it. One is the regular petrol and other is the petrol with the additives which costs 1rs more. I put that and ask him to add 5% oil, the pre mix one.

straight6 · 15th September 2009, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Great! Would you say its better than Petronas 5000?? What about visible smoke? Gawd knows when I'm going to get mine... :(

Smoke seems to be a little more than the Petronas but the smoothness seemed to be more. Maybe because I got the bike upjeted and the exhaust de-carbed.

Once I use the Petronas after this, I'll know the difference better.

Raccoon · 16th September 2009, 00:53

^^^ Hmmm... actually, the be fair, you need to use the same oil for quite some distance to be able to tell. You know, I'v been using Jet X for... but the earlier stuff I was using was not Power 1. I believe it was different stuff. It wasn't so smooth and smoked more. The current bottle I poured in is the 2 or 3rd Jet X Power 1 stuff I poured in. And since I'v put that bottle in, the bike has been smoother and the smoke is definitely lesser. So it has taken 2 - 3 (half litre) bottles to know the difference!! No changes have been made to the bike in the interim.

I finally got my bottle of Motul 510 today.

Now waiting for the Jet X to get exhausted. :(

straight6 · 16th September 2009, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

^^^ Hmmm... actually, the be fair, you need to use the same oil for quite some distance to be able to tell. You know, I'v been using Jet X for... but the earlier stuff I was using was not Power 1. I believe it was different stuff. It wasn't so smooth and smoked more. The current bottle I poured in is the 2 or 3rd Jet X Power 1 stuff I poured in. And since I'v put that bottle in, the bike has been smoother and the smoke is definitely lesser. So it has taken 2 - 3 (half litre) bottles to know the difference!! No changes have been made to the bike in the interim.

I finally got my bottle of Motul 510 today.

Now waiting for the Jet X to get exhausted. :(

I've already ridden the bike 416 kms with the 510 so that is definitely enough to know.

I still think this oil is too expensive at 380/-. Its ok for someone like you who doesnt top up for a long time. I need 1L a month.

Did you have to get the oil yourself or was it delivered to you?

Raccoon · 16th September 2009, 15:05

^^^ One litre a month?

Gosh... how many km do you cover in a month? Btw, since you burn so much oil, how often do you generally need to decarb?

It is a tad expensive, but what are the other choices?? Petronas 5000 costs nearly the same right? I believe they have increased prices lately. VSX2 and Jet X no longer seem to be in the market here at least. I guess its the same in Bombay, right? Technically also they are not comparable. That leaves stuff like MAK, Servo and Castrol Super TT, which I'd rather not use.

Gansan · 16th September 2009, 15:11

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Originally Posted by furioussphinx

I dont remember the name what they call it. One is the regular petrol and other is the petrol with the additives which costs 1rs more. I put that and ask him to add 5% oil, the pre mix one.

The correct term is "Shell Super Unleaded with additives" as against the "Shell Normal Unleaded". Incidentally both are 91 octane, the difference is only the additives. Disconnecting the 2T oil pump and using petroil mix in the fuel tank is the best method. Shell bunk is OK, but if it is any other bunk it will be better to carry your own 2T oil.

9th September 2009, 13:18	#211
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Exactly! I'll call the dist. again. Anyway, I had to fill up with Jet X last month... which will last several weeks. So will have to wait anyway.
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12th September 2009, 01:38	#212
manyu BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moon Posts: 70 Thanked: 3 Times	Hi everyone, I want to buy 2 litres of Motul 800 for my 50cc RC 2t engine. I have looked around quite some places. Cant anyone tell me dealers for motul 800 in New Delhi. Regards Manyu
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12th September 2009, 04:15	#213
straight6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,553 Thanked: 300 Times	I drained the Petronas today and topped up with the Motul 510.
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14th September 2009, 02:33	#216
straight6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,553 Thanked: 300 Times	Went for a ride to Khopoli today and I have to say that the oil is superb. The bike felt really smooth.
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14th September 2009, 15:13	#217
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Great! Would you say its better than Petronas 5000?? What about visible smoke? Gawd knows when I'm going to get mine... :(
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15th September 2009, 00:19	#218
furioussphinx BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 536 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Guys, I have a ported RX 135 5Speed running on 58mm pistons and asome other mods. Right now, i disconnected my 2T oil side box and fill the oil directly into the tank along with the fuel (Engine got seized thanks to that stupid pipe getting clogged). Right now, am using ONLY shell super-premium (or something of that sort) petrol with 5% oil. Is this safe for my bike?
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15th September 2009, 01:49	#219
2StrokeJunkie BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wakanda Posts: 319 Thanked: 350 Times View My Garage	shell super premium ? what the hell is that ? sure you've not picked it off the sea-shore mate ? i think what u mean is shell advance vsx semi syth . the green bottle ? its available at shell petrol bunks . run 35 to 40 ml of that stuff in a litre of petrol . @ Attention all 2strokes esp those in bangalore . Motul 800 Fully Sythetic available for Rs 550 a litre . please pm and let me know if you are interested . Last edited by 2StrokeJunkie : 15th September 2009 at 01:51.
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16th September 2009, 00:53	#222
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^ Hmmm... actually, the be fair, you need to use the same oil for quite some distance to be able to tell. You know, I'v been using Jet X for... but the earlier stuff I was using was not Power 1. I believe it was different stuff. It wasn't so smooth and smoked more. The current bottle I poured in is the 2 or 3rd Jet X Power 1 stuff I poured in. And since I'v put that bottle in, the bike has been smoother and the smoke is definitely lesser. So it has taken 2 - 3 (half litre) bottles to know the difference!! No changes have been made to the bike in the interim. I finally got my bottle of Motul 510 today. Now waiting for the Jet X to get exhausted. :( Last edited by Raccoon : 16th September 2009 at 00:55.
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16th September 2009, 15:05	#224
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^ One litre a month? Gosh... how many km do you cover in a month? Btw, since you burn so much oil, how often do you generally need to decarb? It is a tad expensive, but what are the other choices?? Petronas 5000 costs nearly the same right? I believe they have increased prices lately. VSX2 and Jet X no longer seem to be in the market here at least. I guess its the same in Bombay, right? Technically also they are not comparable. That leaves stuff like MAK, Servo and Castrol Super TT, which I'd rather not use.
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