Gonna buy a new Thunderbird - Pls suggest engine oil

Abhishekjp · 5th September 2008, 15:47

Guyes... After a long wait for a good deal for aquila ,Finally i have made up my mind that i am going for the Thunderbird 350.Company is claiming the average of 45 km/liter.I was very pleased to know that.But also came the news that the royal enfield has recommeded one specific engine oil which cost 700 per litre.so for every service i have to spend Rs 1400 just for the oil.Please suggest me some engine oil that is cheaper than that but effective..

gt_mustang · 5th September 2008, 16:47

congrats on your purchase

i had one of the earliest t birds in hyd and ive never recieved more than 35kmpl on it.
700 rs for a litre of oil man must be some gimmick find out what it is excatly

phamilyman · 5th September 2008, 17:08

dude, that must be some excited biker friend. 700 bucks a liter is the cost of synthetic. All bullets run normally on regular sadaa 20w40

Born 2 Be Wild · 5th September 2008, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Abhishekjp

But also came the news that the royal enfield has recommeded one specific engine oil which cost 700 per litre.so for every service i have to spend Rs 1400 just for the oil.Please suggest me some engine oil that is cheaper than that but effective..

Dude relax I Just went to Get my Bike serviced 2 months back at the workshop and they had just off loaded a 200 Lt Engine oil drum from a tempo specially for the UCE T BIrd the Oil Was MOtul 3000 4T,which is a regular mineral oil so i dont know about other places but atleast in delhi thats whats going to be put in the new T Birds.

And be rest assured Motul 3000 4T is not more than 200/rs a lt

hollywoodhogan · 8th September 2008, 12:08

dude, like b2bw says, dont worry. in bangalore the tbts motul oil costs 190/- a liter at the dealer service center.

kcstheg · 8th September 2008, 20:10

700 Rs/L would be the price of a synthetic oil.

I have a TBird for 5+ yrs and have never filled in the synthetic oils. I always use Castrol GTX. Normally engine oil changes are done every 4K kms (thats what i do). The synthetic oil is good for almost twice as many kilometres and costs slightly more than twice the normal oil.

A very good friend of mine and a TBHP member, bblost, uses the synthetic oil on his TBird. He claims much smoother engine performance when compared to the normal oil.

Here is what I would recommend you to do ( only if u are too keen on the synthetic oils) :
- Fill in normal oil for the first 3 services ( when the recommended oil change frequency is higher)
- Once you get to the normal service interval state(after your bike has done 5-7k kms), try the synthetic oil.

The mileage one gets from his vehicle depends upon a LOT of factors. So, slightly lesser or higher mileage is no big deal IMO.

My bike's mileage is 37-40 in the city depending upon the traffic conditions etc. I would want to believe in the company's claim of 45km/l for the TBTS.

renamo · 9th September 2008, 12:08

Want the best available as of now in India? Try Motul 300V. Yesh, it cost abt 600+ for a litre.

Abhishekjp · 9th September 2008, 13:33

Guyes

I just confirmed with the dealer abt the engine oil for new twin spark plug Thunder bird.The company has recommended to use MOTUL 15W15 oil which costs Rs 700 per litre.They also insist not to to use any other oil to match the new engine requirement.Rs 1400 for every service,just for an oil is just too much for me.

hollywoodhogan · 11th September 2008, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Abhishekjp

Guyes

I just confirmed with the dealer abt the engine oil for new twin spark plug Thunder bird.The company has recommended to use MOTUL 15W15 oil which costs Rs 700 per litre.They also insist not to to use any other oil to match the new engine requirement.Rs 1400 for every service,just for an oil is just too much for me.

the dealer is ripping you off. report to the company and just watch what happens!

NikhilSorot · 7th January 2009, 20:26

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Originally Posted by hollywoodhogan

the dealer is ripping you off. report to the company and just watch what happens!

Hollywoodhogan is right, some of my friends own the TBTS, i myself booked one couple of weeks ago Rs.700/ltr is absolute ripoff. The Motul3000 4T that most suggested is a standard oil that is used and it wouldnt really make a lot of sense (atleast to me) to put in synthetic oil at 700/ltr just for a bit of extra performance. But I guess its ones own choice. So make yours

desideep · 7th January 2009, 23:23

After using a lot of different oils, which include shell, mak, castrol, MOTUL and all i have finally found that VEEDOL turbo star is the best out of all. thats what i would suggest but you may not get it easily.

agbenny · 8th January 2009, 10:28

You will get MOTUL in all the RE service centers. If you need other brands, you need to buy yourself.

I am comfortable with MOTUL in my TBTS.

justROYal · 8th January 2009, 11:09

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

dude, that must be some excited biker friend. 700 bucks a liter is the cost of synthetic. All bullets run normally on regular sadaa 20w40

Enfield recommends 20w50 oil for the Cast Irons, LBs and AVLs. IMO 20w40 would not be a very prudent choice.

Synthetic (Castrol GTX Magnatec) is what bblost and I are using. The bike runs smoother and It just takes you a few minutes for the better riding feel to sink in. The downside is that its a bit thicker than standard 20w50 and hence your bike has this stalling tendency for the first few minutes of winter mornings. Once you warm her up a bit, Magnatec provides ample justification for the greater cost.

The TBTS UCE engine is an Austrian engine and technologically different from any of the other Enfield engines. That notwithstanding, 20w50 oil does perfectly well for a TBTS...until you have tried her on synthetic that is :

Spitfire · 8th January 2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Abhishekjp

MOTUL 15W15 oil

Thats not even recommended grade. Go to a different dealer for service.

And if possible learn to change the oil yourselves. Its very easy. Overtime the bike will teach you to maintain her.

5th September 2008, 15:47	#1
Abhishekjp BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 89 Thanked: 30 Times	Gonna buy a new Thunderbird - Pls suggest engine oil Guyes... After a long wait for a good deal for aquila ,Finally i have made up my mind that i am going for the Thunderbird 350.Company is claiming the average of 45 km/liter.I was very pleased to know that.But also came the news that the royal enfield has recommeded one specific engine oil which cost 700 per litre.so for every service i have to spend Rs 1400 just for the oil.Please suggest me some engine oil that is cheaper than that but effective..
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5th September 2008, 16:47	#2
gt_mustang BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hyd Posts: 246 Thanked: 6 Times	congrats on your purchase i had one of the earliest t birds in hyd and ive never recieved more than 35kmpl on it. 700 rs for a litre of oil man must be some gimmick find out what it is excatly
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5th September 2008, 17:08	#3
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,673 Times	dude, that must be some excited biker friend. 700 bucks a liter is the cost of synthetic. All bullets run normally on regular sadaa 20w40
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8th September 2008, 12:08	#5
hollywoodhogan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 423 Thanked: 15 Times	dude, like b2bw says, dont worry. in bangalore the tbts motul oil costs 190/- a liter at the dealer service center.
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8th September 2008, 20:10	#6
kcstheg BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: hyderabad Posts: 81 Thanked: 0 Times	700 Rs/L would be the price of a synthetic oil. I have a TBird for 5+ yrs and have never filled in the synthetic oils. I always use Castrol GTX. Normally engine oil changes are done every 4K kms (thats what i do). The synthetic oil is good for almost twice as many kilometres and costs slightly more than twice the normal oil. A very good friend of mine and a TBHP member, bblost, uses the synthetic oil on his TBird. He claims much smoother engine performance when compared to the normal oil. Here is what I would recommend you to do ( only if u are too keen on the synthetic oils) : - Fill in normal oil for the first 3 services ( when the recommended oil change frequency is higher) - Once you get to the normal service interval state(after your bike has done 5-7k kms), try the synthetic oil. The mileage one gets from his vehicle depends upon a LOT of factors. So, slightly lesser or higher mileage is no big deal IMO. My bike's mileage is 37-40 in the city depending upon the traffic conditions etc. I would want to believe in the company's claim of 45km/l for the TBTS.
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9th September 2008, 12:08	#7
renamo BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 85 Thanked: 5 Times	Want the best available as of now in India? Try Motul 300V. Yesh, it cost abt 600+ for a litre.
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9th September 2008, 13:33	#8
Abhishekjp BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 89 Thanked: 30 Times	Guyes I just confirmed with the dealer abt the engine oil for new twin spark plug Thunder bird.The company has recommended to use MOTUL 15W15 oil which costs Rs 700 per litre.They also insist not to to use any other oil to match the new engine requirement.Rs 1400 for every service,just for an oil is just too much for me.
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7th January 2009, 23:23	#11
desideep Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 1,161 Thanked: 330 Times View My Garage	After using a lot of different oils, which include shell, mak, castrol, MOTUL and all i have finally found that VEEDOL turbo star is the best out of all. thats what i would suggest but you may not get it easily.
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8th January 2009, 10:28	#12
agbenny BANNED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 294 Times	You will get MOTUL in all the RE service centers. If you need other brands, you need to buy yourself. I am comfortable with MOTUL in my TBTS.
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