The Gearless Scooter Thread

manish7 · 29th January 2008, 00:22

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Originally Posted by DCEite

Talking of dimensions, here you go.

Honda Activa:
Dimensions (lxbxh) 1765 x 715 x 1130 mm
Wheel base 1235 mm
Kerb Weight (in kgs) 111
Ground clearance 145 smm

Kinetic Flyte:
Dimensions (LxWxH) 1790 x 670 x 1100 mm
Wheel Base 1260
Kerb Weight (in kgs) 106
Ground Clearance (in mm) 135

I think Ground Clearance of Flyte is 115 mm and not 135 mm - and thus it remains a big concern!

ravi@64bhp · 29th January 2008, 01:04

Yes Manish, ground clearance is a problem in Flyte, but only with doubles, on steep speed breakers. Till now, it did not cause me much of a problem. You have to watch out only with pillion, that too on steep speedbreakers.

You cannot use mobile charger when the ignition is off. I think you can only use the mobile charger when the engine is on.

Also remember, Flyte's fuel tank is just 4 liters.

Other than the above two niggles, Flyte is really good, as of now.

manish7 · 29th January 2008, 01:10

Thanks Ravi - you have been most helpful! I am buying something tomorrow and it's still some sort of confusion between Flyte & Pleasure!

ravi@64bhp · 29th January 2008, 01:25

Manish, I think you can take a plunge with Flyte, as there is a 3-year warranty on the engine. I did the same

manish7 · 29th January 2008, 09:26

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Originally Posted by ravi@64bhp

Manish, I think you can take a plunge with Flyte, as there is a 3-year warranty on the engine. I did the same

Yeah, in your case - I'd say you had courage to do so after your pathetic experience with Blaze!

Let's see what we finally buy today! Wish Pleasure Had more features & I wish Flyte had better ground clearance and more importantly; better name to give us some assurance.

sunilbakshi · 29th January 2008, 10:55

Manish - I recommend go for the Flyte over Pleasure. Flyte has better features, better pricing and better ride & handling over the pleasure.

Dont worry about the name. This is Kinetic & SYM. SYM though new in India is proven in many countries in the world. They are on fast track to challenge Honda and have earned a good name for quality, R&D and overall engineering strengths. Its a two wheeler paralled to success stories of Asian brands in other segments such as LG. Samsung, Hyundai, etc.

Hope that helped you in some way to decide! cheers

manish7 · 29th January 2008, 17:39

Well, I just noticed that Blaze also won few awards - and that scares me knowing real life agonies of Blaze owners. For all we know, Flyte owners might also end up this way in couple of years! I want to believe that Flyte is a good scooter - it does beat others on features, and test ride didn't reveal anything objectionable? (What can a 1 km ride reveal anyway?) -- but Kinetic has done enough bad for themselves to keep me skeptical!

Can't believe - I have to buy today & I am still confused!! :P

sunilbakshi · 29th January 2008, 19:56

Manish - Flyte is a scooter that is making everyone rethink Kinetic. Even Ravi despite his negative experience realized that and so went for the flyte and is happy with his choice. Flyte is an SYM designed product, manufactured under strict SYM supervision, and meets their quality norms. They tied up with kinetic so that they could quickly enter India without having to set up a whole new plant, network etc.

Flyte is especially good for women as its very easy to put on main stand, has good suspension, front fueling, good storage etc and the electric start works very well thanks to a 9Ah battery

ravi@64bhp · 29th January 2008, 21:47

Agree with Sunilbakshi, yet I am a bit skeptical deep in my heart. As Sunil said, I see 'SYM' name at more places on the 'Flyte' than Kinetic, that too 'SYM' logo is very pronounced than 'Kinetic'. Even on the key, there is no 'Kinetic' logo, just 'SYM'. I definitely believe, SYM has seen that the product is of good quality, and Flyte is going to be a success in India. Only time would tell.

manish7 · 29th January 2008, 22:24

Well, I am skeptical deep in my heart as well; but finally we have booked Flyte Silver color and should get delivery by Friday or so. I am keeping my fingers crossed - hope it would be a wise decision.

Sunil - do you actually own Flyte? You speak more like salesperson - talking more about features rather than your won experience. :P I have extensively studied features of each vehicle and contemplated the decision. I was concerned more about the common-sense reliability factor that awards, magazine test reports can't tell you - only time would be best judge & so is word of mouth!

Let's hope for the best!! Fingers crossed!

ravi@64bhp · 29th January 2008, 23:02

Wow! Congrats Manish! I 'believe' you have made a wise decision. I hope you enjoy every minute of riding it and hope this flyte will be a surprise from Kinetic unlike other scooters.

BTW, the three year warranty on engine is just for first 10,000 customers. Please be sure you are one of the first 10,000 customers to avail this warranty. Otherwise, I advise against the Flyte.

hollywoodhogan · 30th January 2008, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by manish7

Well, I am skeptical deep in my heart as well; but finally we have booked Flyte Silver color and should get delivery by Friday or so. I am keeping my fingers crossed - hope it would be a wise decision.

Sunil - do you actually own Flyte? You speak more like salesperson - talking more about features rather than your won experience. :P I have extensively studied features of each vehicle and contemplated the decision. I was concerned more about the common-sense reliability factor that awards, magazine test reports can't tell you - only time would be best judge & so is word of mouth!

Let's hope for the best!! Fingers crossed!

congrats dude!!! good choice. like sb says, the flyte appears to be an sym product as its first venture into india as a brand and am sure that sym will ensure that their name is well protected. its early days though but i am kinda convinced. the 3 year warranty should allay some of your concerns. cheers!

vnabhi · 30th January 2008, 10:51

What is the waiting period for Flyte? I have read posts in this forum that Access has a 3-month waiting period.

sunilbakshi · 30th January 2008, 12:15

Manish - congratulations on the new scoot. And its good that u did proper research and arrived at your decision.

I will be getting a flyte for my wife soon, she is getting impatient for it ... I am just trying to clear up some parking space issues here in society.. When is delivery.. what color did u select?

manish7 · 30th January 2008, 12:20

There is no waiting period for Flyte; it's readiliy available. I have selected Flyte Silver color as I mentioned in my post above. I did select the vehicle myself, wrote down its chassis no. & engine no. and asked him to register that particular Flyte. I should be getting delivery (after registration, insurance etc.) by coming Friday.

29th January 2008, 01:04	#347
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Yes Manish, ground clearance is a problem in Flyte, but only with doubles, on steep speed breakers. Till now, it did not cause me much of a problem. You have to watch out only with pillion, that too on steep speedbreakers. You cannot use mobile charger when the ignition is off. I think you can only use the mobile charger when the engine is on. Also remember, Flyte's fuel tank is just 4 liters. Other than the above two niggles, Flyte is really good, as of now. Last edited by ravi@64bhp : 29th January 2008 at 01:06.
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29th January 2008, 01:10	#348
manish7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 508 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks Ravi - you have been most helpful! I am buying something tomorrow and it's still some sort of confusion between Flyte & Pleasure!
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29th January 2008, 01:25	#349
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Manish, I think you can take a plunge with Flyte, as there is a 3-year warranty on the engine. I did the same
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29th January 2008, 10:55	#351
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	Manish - I recommend go for the Flyte over Pleasure. Flyte has better features, better pricing and better ride & handling over the pleasure. Dont worry about the name. This is Kinetic & SYM. SYM though new in India is proven in many countries in the world. They are on fast track to challenge Honda and have earned a good name for quality, R&D and overall engineering strengths. Its a two wheeler paralled to success stories of Asian brands in other segments such as LG. Samsung, Hyundai, etc. Hope that helped you in some way to decide! cheers
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29th January 2008, 17:39	#352
manish7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 508 Thanked: 0 Times	Well, I just noticed that Blaze also won few awards - and that scares me knowing real life agonies of Blaze owners. For all we know, Flyte owners might also end up this way in couple of years! I want to believe that Flyte is a good scooter - it does beat others on features, and test ride didn't reveal anything objectionable? (What can a 1 km ride reveal anyway?) -- but Kinetic has done enough bad for themselves to keep me skeptical! Can't believe - I have to buy today & I am still confused!! :P
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29th January 2008, 19:56	#353
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	Manish - Flyte is a scooter that is making everyone rethink Kinetic. Even Ravi despite his negative experience realized that and so went for the flyte and is happy with his choice. Flyte is an SYM designed product, manufactured under strict SYM supervision, and meets their quality norms. They tied up with kinetic so that they could quickly enter India without having to set up a whole new plant, network etc. Flyte is especially good for women as its very easy to put on main stand, has good suspension, front fueling, good storage etc and the electric start works very well thanks to a 9Ah battery Last edited by sunilbakshi : 29th January 2008 at 20:06.
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29th January 2008, 21:47	#354
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Agree with Sunilbakshi, yet I am a bit skeptical deep in my heart. As Sunil said, I see 'SYM' name at more places on the 'Flyte' than Kinetic, that too 'SYM' logo is very pronounced than 'Kinetic'. Even on the key, there is no 'Kinetic' logo, just 'SYM'. I definitely believe, SYM has seen that the product is of good quality, and Flyte is going to be a success in India. Only time would tell.
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29th January 2008, 22:24	#355
manish7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 508 Thanked: 0 Times	Well, I am skeptical deep in my heart as well; but finally we have booked Flyte Silver color and should get delivery by Friday or so. I am keeping my fingers crossed - hope it would be a wise decision. Sunil - do you actually own Flyte? You speak more like salesperson - talking more about features rather than your won experience. :P I have extensively studied features of each vehicle and contemplated the decision. I was concerned more about the common-sense reliability factor that awards, magazine test reports can't tell you - only time would be best judge & so is word of mouth! Let's hope for the best!! Fingers crossed!
	() Thanks

29th January 2008, 23:02	#356
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Wow! Congrats Manish! I 'believe' you have made a wise decision. I hope you enjoy every minute of riding it and hope this flyte will be a surprise from Kinetic unlike other scooters. BTW, the three year warranty on engine is just for first 10,000 customers. Please be sure you are one of the first 10,000 customers to avail this warranty. Otherwise, I advise against the Flyte.
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30th January 2008, 10:51	#358
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,995 Thanked: 2,423 Times View My Garage	What is the waiting period for Flyte? I have read posts in this forum that Access has a 3-month waiting period.
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30th January 2008, 12:15	#359
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	congratulations Manish - congratulations on the new scoot. And its good that u did proper research and arrived at your decision. I will be getting a flyte for my wife soon, she is getting impatient for it ... I am just trying to clear up some parking space issues here in society.. When is delivery.. what color did u select?
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30th January 2008, 12:20	#360
manish7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 508 Thanked: 0 Times	There is no waiting period for Flyte; it's readiliy available. I have selected Flyte Silver color as I mentioned in my post above. I did select the vehicle myself, wrote down its chassis no. & engine no. and asked him to register that particular Flyte. I should be getting delivery (after registration, insurance etc.) by coming Friday.
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